If this comes across as pedantic, I apologize, but I think Gorrad needs to learn these things before he sets foot in another mafia game:
Gorrad wrote:a) faking a dayvig you do not have (I find faked roles scummy/bad play no matter the context)
The main reason not to fake an action is so you don't make people think you're scummy when you're actually town. But I'm fairly close to confirmed town, so that's not much of a risk here.
There are several reactions you could get from faking an action that would be beneficial to town.
* You could get scum to panic and make a statement they otherwise wouldn't. Town has no reason to panic--they're not lying about their beliefs and alignment.
* You could get a shoddy scumbag to make a hasty fakeclaim that would pin them in a corner later.
* You could get shoddy town to claim their role, thus getting them out of the way and allowing real scum to be pursued that day.
In my case, I absolutely accomplished one of those three, and the rest of us don't know which one it was yet. Except, in the case that there's only one scumteam...
* The hasty claim made by the townie might result in scum making hasty statements about the truthfulness of the claim.
For example, if someone is too ready to assume your township after that claim, they very well could be scum who actually DOES know you're a mason. If someone's too skeptical of your claim, they could very well be your scumpartner trying to look good by being the first to "realize" you're full of shit.
So yeah, I think your blanket assertion that all faked actions are terrible for town is utterly wrong. In a game called Mormon Missionary Mafia, at a point in the game where a lie could no longer hurt me as town, I lied and told everyone I had a self-protect that I'd be using that night. I didn't actually have a self-protect, but the lie allowed me to survive the night, perform my real night action, and help win us the game.
In the future, you may want to make a distinction between "play you don't understand" and "stupid play". For example, your outing of your mason partner was stupid play. (Unless you're scum.) My faking a dayvig may very well have saved your ass today, and almost certainly will allow us more time to find an alternative lynch if you are town, which is "clever play you don't understand".
Gorrad wrote:and then b) denying the fact that I'm certainly town, as seen in the post above.
You don't seem to get this subtlety. YOU may know you're certainly town, but it's very likely that no one else in the game besides you and your partner knows that. I have absolutely no way of telling for certain whether:
A) You and your partner are masons guaranteed innocent to each other.
or
B) You and your scumpartner agreed to a fakeclaim of masons night 1 right before YOU MURDERED ME IN COLD BLOOD!
snap je?
