PIRATES v. NINJAS! Game Over!

[Iammars]

Also, it's not my fault I never heard about my character before, and Wikipedia sure isn't helping me.

And how does this post say that I can't find it in Wikipedia?

Wikipedia just isn't helping me determine whether or not my character is a pirate.

[cicero]

Also, it's not my fault I never heard about my character before, and Wikipedia sure isn't helping me.

And how does this post say that I can't find it in Wikipedia?

Wikipedia just isn't helping me determine whether or not my character is a pirate.

Slippery.

Slidey.

Safe-claim flexibility?

You know there's more to internet research than Wikipedia, right?

Look, I don't know that you needed to soft-claim pirate/not-pirate at all. But the manner in which you have claimed is definitely sketch.

[UltimaAvalon]

[quote="Mars"]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say thats your Role PM's job, or even Stoofer's job. Not Wikipedia's. Granted, I don't know your role PM or what anyone else's says, but thats what makes sense to me.

[UltimaAvalon]

Wikipedia just isn't helping me determine whether or not my character is a pirate.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say thats your Role PM's job, or even Stoofer's job. Not Wikipedia's. Granted, I don't know your role PM or what anyone else's says, but thats what makes sense to me.

yay for tag fixings

[Claus]

Iammars, what about being useful to the game?

It would be nice to hear who you are suspicious of/who YOU would like to lynch/who do you think has bad motivations irt your bandwagon.

When I check your posts in isolation, all you do is defend against your wagon.

[cicero]

Wikipedia just isn't helping me determine whether or not my character is a pirate.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say thats your Role PM's job, or even Stoofer's job. Not Wikipedia's. Granted, I don't know your role PM or what anyone else's says, but thats what makes sense to me.

yay for tag fixings

What's your point here, Ultima Avalon?

Also, You still owe me an answer to a question from post 86 or so with respect to why you voted Gorrad.

[Mgm]

Also, it's not my fault I never heard about my character before, and Wikipedia sure isn't helping me.

And how does this post say that I can't find it in Wikipedia?

Wikipedia just isn't helping me determine whether or not my character is a pirate.

Let's try a different route. Did your character command a ship?

[UltimaAvalon]

Wikipedia just isn't helping me determine whether or not my character is a pirate.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say thats your Role PM's job, or even Stoofer's job. Not Wikipedia's. Granted, I don't know your role PM or what anyone else's says, but thats what makes sense to me.

yay for tag fixings

What's your point here, Ultima Avalon?

Whether or not his character is a pirate shouldn't be open to interpretation, and, if there's dubt, Wikipedia shouldn't be the one to resolve it.

Also, You still owe me an answer to a question from post 86 or so with respect to why you voted Gorrad.

No one hopped on my bandwagon, so I hopped on the first one that had potential

[cicero]

Wikipedia just isn't helping me determine whether or not my character is a pirate.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say thats your Role PM's job, or even Stoofer's job. Not Wikipedia's. Granted, I don't know your role PM or what anyone else's says, but thats what makes sense to me.

yay for tag fixings

What's your point here, Ultima Avalon?

Whether or not his character is a pirate shouldn't be open to interpretation, and, if there's dubt, Wikipedia shouldn't be the one to resolve it.

Also, You still owe me an answer to a question from post 86 or so with respect to why you voted Gorrad.

No one hopped on my bandwagon, so I hopped on the first one that had potential

Bold #1: That isnt explaining your implications. It is restating your point. What I'm asking is where does that assertion lead you with respect to scumhunting.

Bold #2: And so you didnt really think Gorrad had done anything scummy? Because I really didnt understand your logic in that post. So now you are admitting that you just jumped on that wagon for no good reason?

[UltimaAvalon]

Bold #1: I'm not scumhunting based on roles, because, as it stands, we don't know who the scum are. I'm simply saying it shouldn't be that difficult for Mars to determine whether or not he is a pirate based on his role pm, regardless of his role PM's flavor.

Bold #2: Ya. So? Early Day 1 in bandwagon time

[cicero]

Bold #1: I'm not scumhunting based on roles, because, as it stands, we don't know who the scum are. I'm simply saying it shouldn't be that difficult for Mars to determine whether or not he is a pirate based on his role pm, regardless of his role PM's flavor.

Bold #2: Ya. So? Early Day 1 in bandwagon time

I don't agree with this at all. When I jump on bandwagons on day one, I find something prima facie scummy even if I change my mind later. I dont just tag along. You seemed to be suggesting there was a problem with Gorrad's thinking vis-a-vis mass claim. I still don't even understand what you meant in that post.

For everyone's refreshment, here's your post:

Unvote, Vote: Gorrad

Are you suggesting that mass-claiming is, in fact,

not

the pro-town thing to do?

Now normally mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do. So I said "huh?" and asked what you meant. You dutifully ignored me.

So so far here's what I've seen from you so far:

1. In the random voting stage, you voted for yourself. That could be seen as scum being extra careful to avoid making connections. You also did it a few days after others.

2. You then jumped on Gorrad's wagon with no real cause that you are willing to explain.

3. An unexplained jump to the another possible opportune bandwagon without explanation, Guardian. Is it because you guys fought over Haiku? Not that I think a jump to Guardian makes no sense. That would be stupid. But it's a pattern of opportunism with you that I'd like to nip in the bud.

4. Evasive ignoring or non-answers to my questions.

I'd prefer you provide reasons for your actions from now on, if that's ok. At this point you've pinged my possible scumdar pretty clearly.

[Flameaxe]

Now normally mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Hello Mr. Enemy of Pie!

[cicero]

Now normally mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Hello Mr. Enemy of Pie!

I don't understand this at all.

[Flameaxe]

Now normally mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Hello Mr. Enemy of Pie!

I don't understand this at all.

I'm sure plenty of other people will.

[UltimaAvalon]

Unvote
Vote: cicero

Reason #1

mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Reason #2

In the random voting stage, you voted for yourself. That could be seen as scum

IS THIS MORE TO YOUR LIKING, GOOD SIR???

[Flameaxe]

Wow, I missed the second one. That's humorous. Really, it is.

[cicero]

Unvote
Vote: cicero

Reason #1

mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Reason #2

In the random voting stage, you voted for yourself. That could be seen as scum

IS THIS MORE TO YOUR LIKING, GOOD SIR???

I see Ultima being OMGUS and Flameaxe being obstructionist and swooping to someone's rescue again.

I still don't understand the mass claim accusation, frankly. There are lots of times to use a mass-claim in a game. Later. None of them are on day one.

So... shrug. No, ultima, you didnt make yourself look any better to me at all.

[Flameaxe]

Unvote
Vote: cicero

Reason #1

mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Reason #2

In the random voting stage, you voted for yourself. That could be seen as scum

IS THIS MORE TO YOUR LIKING, GOOD SIR???

I see Ultima being OMGUS and Flameaxe being obstructionist and swooping to someone's rescue again.

I still don't understand the mass claim accusation, frankly. There are lots of times to use a mass-claim in a game. Later. None of them are on day one.

So... shrug. No, ultima, you didnt make yourself look any better to me at all.

I suggest you meta better, buddy.

[UltimaAvalon]

I don't care how I "look" to you, and I certainly wont be told how to play the game by you.

Thank you for your opinion, sir.

[cicero]

Unvote
Vote: cicero

Reason #1

mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Reason #2

In the random voting stage, you voted for yourself. That could be seen as scum

IS THIS MORE TO YOUR LIKING, GOOD SIR???

I see Ultima being OMGUS and Flameaxe being obstructionist and swooping to someone's rescue again.

I still don't understand the mass claim accusation, frankly. There are lots of times to use a mass-claim in a game. Later. None of them are on day one.

So... shrug. No, ultima, you didnt make yourself look any better to me at all.

I suggest you meta better, buddy.

Flameaxe, please stop being rude and just explain yourself.

[Flameaxe]

How in the hell is that me being rude? I simply suggested a meta of UA would explain reason 2 quite nicely. I don't see how this is being rude in any way.

[Flameaxe]

Leaving for a half hour, by the way.

[cicero]

The way this works is if I make a supposition on day one with someone I havent played with before, someone who has played with them can come in and correct the meta. If you think I'm going to go check metas BEFORE I post you are dreaming.

So you can respond flippantly or you can explain things. On day one, I look at people's play and if something needs to be noted I note it. It gives other people alerts that can be used throughout the game.

I'm not convinced UA is scum by any means. But I'm certainly not convinced he's town.

I also still don't remotely understand the objection to what I had to say about mass-claim. The central point, which you seem to be trying to derail, is me noting opportunistic bandwagoning without reason. Followed by avoidance of answering questions.

[Flameaxe]

I have made no comment on his wagoning. All I saw was a day one random vote.

Because you are lazy: UA self votes (even self wagons) on day one. It's just a tradition.

[cicero]

I have made no comment on his wagoning. All I saw was a day one random vote.

Because you are lazy: UA self votes (even self wagons) on day one. It's just a tradition.

Cool. Thanks.

Apologies on that tell, UA.

Can we go back to Enemy of Pie now?