PIRATES v. NINJAS! Game Over!

[Flameaxe]

Who's up for lynching DGB? Lets make a challenge of it and see if we can do it by page 4.

Confirm and /in.

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Gorrad

Ima vig you sucka!

(Note: Not claiming, just bringing up past games of horror and death of scum)

[Flameaxe]

Sad...Pie frowns upon them.

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Skruffs

I'm not changing my vote until you get yourself a new avatar, period.

Why? That avatar is the definition of awesomeness

No.

[Flameaxe]

Random votes are for losers. Let's skip that phase.

OK! You get us out of the random stage, and I'll give you a cookie!

I can't force other people to stop voting randomly. All I can do is coerce them.

Coerce them with that cookie.

[Flameaxe]

Happy birthday Iammars!

What Shea said.

[Flameaxe]

I like DGB as a person. I found her extremely frustrating in the one game I was in with her. But that's neither here nor there. What is notable is TSQs approach to the issue. Not necessarily worth a vote yet though. I mean there's WIFOM, right. Flameaxe and TSQ are all "lets lynch DGB" and then she's dead. Which TSQ is too smart too have done unless he really is playing a WIFOM gamble and getting rid of a person he loathes. Which I CAN see him doing. I CANNOT see him actually wishing she was alive on day one so he could fuck with her. I think he takes his games more seriously than that.

So I think him saying that is bull.

Whoa whoa whoa. Where do I fit into this exactly? I have done no such thing, and I do not appreciate it.

[Flameaxe]

Ok. Now THAT one is a stretch. Even for you this is bad C.

[Flameaxe]

Ok. Now THAT one is a stretch. Even for you this is bad C.

Yup. I'm a dumbass. No talent whatsoever. Go back under your rock now.

I don't plan on it. I can't let a dumbass run wild like that, taking advantage of whatever random pre-game posts he can get his hands on. This is just plain silly, and your argument with Shea is getting us nowhere.

[Flameaxe]

Incidentally, I'm not accusing you whatsoever flameaxe. The odds of you two being on the same team are too slim. Maybe you are misreading that.

Thats not the point. You are being a fucking dumbass, is all. Please, save us all. We get enough frustration from you as it is.

[Flameaxe]

Incidentally, I'm not accusing you whatsoever flameaxe. The odds of you two being on the same team are too slim. Maybe you are misreading that.

Thats not the point. You are being a fucking dumbass, is all. Please, save us all. We get enough frustration from you as it is.

K. Your opinion is noted. And given all the importance it usually is.

I would note your opinion, but...well you get my drift.

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxe -- nothing important came up until you were attacked?

Incidentally, I'm not accusing you whatsoever flameaxe.

Exactly. And would you mind rephrasing that second question? I'm afraid I'm not following.

Cicero, I am axctually one of the least serious players on this site. I consider the game to be something for fun. Being uber serious about it only makes it not fun anymore. This is why PJ doesn't play anymore that much, I think.

Thus why I love playing with Shea. <3.

[Flameaxe]

I have enough experience with Flameaxe? I can recall one game, in which he was of no suspicion because he replaced for you urzasedatives, a vigilante, in an open setup. I probably have played with him before then -- but unless you name games to jog my memory, I'm literally drawing a blank Confused.

This is par for the course for him? And that's acceptable? And I should know this?

Mini 500? You weren't playing but you had small issues with me as mod.

[Flameaxe]

Guardian: Yes it was my response. Use your brain and one would figure out what it means!

Brains are cool.

Shea: I'm not a bad player...I just don't try as much as I should...

[Flameaxe]

Guardian, think more....please.

[Flameaxe]

Not at all. Im not interested, unlike some people in here, in running up big wagons based on shitfumes.

Who might

those

people be? Name names, please.

"OMG. He talked like a pirate."

Yarr.

[Flameaxe]

I asked for clarification on something, which turned out to be bullshit. I don't necessarily call shit-throwing an attack. You can if you want.

[Flameaxe]

A mix of bullshit and issues on a (somewhat) personal level.

[Flameaxe]

No.

[Flameaxe]

1) The comment was about Cicero's comments towards Shea (and myself) regarding the DGB issue.

2) It was resolved by Cicero already, scroll up.

3) No, not really. Nothing worth noting at least.

[Flameaxe]

I kind of already have. 500 seems like a prime example to me.

[Flameaxe]

Guardian, I believe you to be downplaying exactly how much you've played with flameaxe, but I do not have the time nor the energy to look through all your games to prove that.

I'd like you to spend the time and energy -- because I've looked through my wiki page, and in a cursory viewing I couldn't find any more than what I described.

Your knee-jerk FOS seemed like one scum might make -- spread the suspicion around as much as possible, without good reasons for it.

Yeah, Shea. I really haven't played much with Guardian. Good thing too, the haikus drive me insane!

[Flameaxe]

Now normally mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Hello Mr. Enemy of Pie!

[Flameaxe]

Now normally mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Hello Mr. Enemy of Pie!

I don't understand this at all.

I'm sure plenty of other people will.

[Flameaxe]

Wow, I missed the second one. That's humorous. Really, it is.

[Flameaxe]

Unvote
Vote: cicero

Reason #1

mass-claiming is indeed NOT the pro-town thing to do.

Reason #2

In the random voting stage, you voted for yourself. That could be seen as scum

IS THIS MORE TO YOUR LIKING, GOOD SIR???

I see Ultima being OMGUS and Flameaxe being obstructionist and swooping to someone's rescue again.

I still don't understand the mass claim accusation, frankly. There are lots of times to use a mass-claim in a game. Later. None of them are on day one.

So... shrug. No, ultima, you didnt make yourself look any better to me at all.

I suggest you meta better, buddy.

[Flameaxe]

How in the hell is that me being rude? I simply suggested a meta of UA would explain reason 2 quite nicely. I don't see how this is being rude in any way.

[Flameaxe]

Leaving for a half hour, by the way.

[Flameaxe]

I have made no comment on his wagoning. All I saw was a day one random vote.

Because you are lazy: UA self votes (even self wagons) on day one. It's just a tradition.

[Flameaxe]

I also still don't remotely understand the objection to what I had to say about mass-claim.

Regardless of the time of day or the circumstances surrounding it, massclaims are pro-town. Period.

The central point

Is the apex

which

good question

you seem to be

town

trying to derail

You shouldn't do that

is me

cicero

noting

small word

opportunistic

big word

bandwagoning without reason

Day 1

Followed by avoidance

What do you have to hide?

of

rhymes with dove

answering questions

questions end with question marks

Epic Posting.

[Flameaxe]

No, you get replaced for taking the game too seriously.

[Flameaxe]

Flame I'm not sitting here crying but you're being a pest. The only thing youve opened your mouth to do in this game is to poke me when I try to open new avenues of discussion. It's childish and hostile and brings an unnecessary shrillness to the game, so please stop.

I'm sorry?

Also, did you miss my discussion with Guardian a few pages back? Yeah, way to completely lie. It's cool though.

[Flameaxe]

Well you mentioned me, did you NOT want me to interject? I believe I had every right.

[Flameaxe]

Well you mentioned me, did you NOT want me to interject? I believe I had every right.

You did. I just wasnt lying when I said what I said.

Except you were.

[Flameaxe]

I also still don't remotely understand the objection to what I had to say about mass-claim.

Regardless of the time of day or the circumstances surrounding it, massclaims are pro-town. Period.

I very much disagree with this. I enjoy when the town has powerroles.

Also, while I must say Flameaxe is, as always, being very unhelpful, his posts make me laugh.

A) STOP BEING BITTER THAT MASSCLAIM OWNED YOU IN 68.

B) You're welcome.

Cicero: But I'm hungry...

Notice how you got a frownie face? That could change you know.

[Flameaxe]

Im considering changing me meta on day ones to refusing to speak as well. I like how there are no consequences but actual play threatens one with a wagon. Seems fair.

I really, really like you.

Don't tell Flameaxe.

Hi.

[Flameaxe]

Hi. Catching up.

[Flameaxe]

unvote, vote: Guardian

Much better place than that silly Kscope wagon. Seriously guys.

[Flameaxe]

I don't want you to have fun.

[Flameaxe]

I don't want you to have fun.

And now ther serious answer? Or you don't have one?

I think he was referring to me.

I wasn't.

[Flameaxe]

Oh no, I just referred to Flameaxe as "matey" and greeted him with "yar." I must be indicated our alignment!

Yarr! He must walk the plank!

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Guardian

Whats funny is you believe the things you type.

and yet you are still voting for me?

you posit I believe the things I type (true) and still vote me? Why? How can you possibly justify this?

Well, he can start by asking you to comprehend things better.

[Flameaxe]

It's a confirmation post - the game proper hasn't even started yet. That's like arguing that what someone said in the signup thread is game-relevant (I am aware that this has already happened).

In the signup thread, we haven't gotten our roles yet.

IN the confirmation thread, we HAD gotten our roles, and stoofer said to treat it as part of night 1. Clearly you see the difference, nO????

Let's assume for a moment that it is game relevant: how could you possibly know at the very first post in the game whether pirates or ninjas are scum without being scum yourself?

Stoofer's death scene had a pirate kill (obviously) and what appeared to be a ninja kill. It was completely obvious pirates were scum. Mars confirmed like a pirate.

Why confirm like scum, unless you are scum trying to do something tricky? (or joking, apparently :\)

Calling someone out for confirming with "yarr" in a game called PIRATES V. ninjas is just plain dumb.

[Flameaxe]

Everyone voting for me (with the possible exception of Erg0) I think is a fool, or scum, or both:

Thok - scum
Mgm - fool
Flameaxe - fool
UA - fool

I can see how it might be seen that Thok is town, and I plan on looking more closely at him later (though, as I said a few days ago, I *should* be on v/la right now).

Thok aside, are the last three not trivially obvious to anyone (besides those 3)? If so, I'll try to explain in detail. To me, all 3 of their votes are just premised on ridiculous logic/assumptions.

Someone is missing some posts here.

[Flameaxe]

It's a confirmation post - the game proper hasn't even started yet. That's like arguing that what someone said in the signup thread is game-relevant (I am aware that this has already happened).

In the signup thread, we haven't gotten our roles yet.

IN the confirmation thread, we HAD gotten our roles, and stoofer said to treat it as part of night 1. Clearly you see the difference, nO????

Let's assume for a moment that it is game relevant: how could you possibly know at the very first post in the game whether pirates or ninjas are scum without being scum yourself?

Stoofer's death scene had a pirate kill (obviously) and what appeared to be a ninja kill. It was completely obvious pirates were scum. Mars confirmed like a pirate.

Why confirm like scum, unless you are scum trying to do something tricky? (or joking, apparently :\)

Right, because we all confirmed AFTER Stoofer gave us the death scene.

Yup. No bullshit here.

ROFL you are an ibecile.

I called Iammars scummy after the death scene.

at that point in time, I had the information of his confirming like a pirate, and the death scene, implying pirates = scum

. With that information, I put 1 + 1 = 2, and voted Mars.

holy shit, this is amusing, and sad.

How much you pick at something silly like this is even more amusing. Yarr, it is. Come mateys! Let us find buried treasure! It certainly isn't in Guardian's case!

[Flameaxe]

logging out of mafiascum for the night, possibly for the week,

you fuckers make it not worth it.

stoofer, if you feel the need to replace/modkill me, i understand, but im sick of bullshit like this ruining every large game i've ever been in (aside from ork mafia, guess i was saved by being unequestionable town helping)


persecuting active players, especially with bullshit tongue and cheek crap, is stupid, anti-game, and anti-site.

bye, at least for 24 hours.

When you go after someone for simply saying "Yarr", you are bound to get criticism. Thats all this was. Not all towns will blindly follow you like you are expecting us to. This is your problem, not ours. Deal with it.

[Flameaxe]

ha ha ha i'm such a twat

qft

Oh I missed this.

Then after all that, you resort to being silly like this.

Note to self: Raising a somewhat serious point against an idea of Guardian will get me a quotehack. Restrain from doing this.

[Flameaxe]

Hey guys. Whats up?

[Flameaxe]

Hey Claus!! Thnx!

unvote

I can see Samwise Gangee being a tracker (for those that stated uncertainty about this role, he's a character from LOTR, tracker makes sense).

I know who Samwise Gangee is. That's not my issue with the claim. My issue (among other things) is that Sam doesn't really do much "tracking" in LOTR and Guardian's description for why he is a tracker suggests a hider flavor (and the hider flavor would fit better with other characters in the book).

Sauron would fit so much more. Discuss.

[Flameaxe]

Sauron would fit so much more. Discuss.

That's a straw man. There exist better tracker flavor characters in LOTR (Bilbo, for example matches the suggested flavor much better than Sam) without having to bring up evil characters.

I wasn't accusing Sauron of being scum. So, no. "Ur not doin' it rite".

[Flameaxe]

Jack Aubrey : Main character of Aubrey–Maturin series of novels by Patrick O'Brian ((Had to wiki this one))

Why have you not read (at least) Master and Commander? For shame!


"Discuss."

[Flameaxe]

Iunno, it could be because we already have a dead investigative role which implies another one coupled with the fact that the flavor is poor coupled with the fact that guardian always claims information roles as scum. Could be that.

The thread has been won.

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Guardian

This != situation in 68. Sorry.

I think it's time Guardian put up or shut up.

I approve this statement.

[Flameaxe]

I want your and other's comments on the record before I reveal.

This will definitely help, even if I end up being mis-lynched today. Trust me on that. But hm, maybe if I claim now I'm more likely to be believed and less likely mis-lynched? *ponder*

I find it a little suspicious how you vote me after a goblin-finder claim in a game called pirates and ninjas after not having read the game.

That means that goblins can't exist....why?

[Flameaxe]

OK, I've been thinking for 10 minutes, and I guess it is better for me to reveal now.

I tracked Erg0 last night. Yes, he went to cow.

I asked those 5 people to comment on each other, because I hoped some would defend Erg0 (Fonz & Thok seemed to), and I thought that would be good information for us to have.

ANyways,

vote: Erg0

In case I have 2 votes for some funky reason (see the votecount I quoted)

vote: Erg0

again .

I have no idea what to think about Goblin finder, or me being "found as a Goblin", but I'm not one.

Erg0, unless he has some really great information about why he targeted cow, is scum. He should be today's lynch. If he isn't scum, feel free to lynch me the next day. But I'm fairly sure he is scum, I can't think of a reason for a town player to be targeting cow last night.

Why wait when you have a "cop" with a guilty?

[Flameaxe]

OK, I've been thinking for 10 minutes, and I guess it is better for me to reveal now.

I tracked Erg0 last night. Yes, he went to cow.

I asked those 5 people to comment on each other, because I hoped some would defend Erg0 (Fonz & Thok seemed to), and I thought that would be good information for us to have.

ANyways,

vote: Erg0

In case I have 2 votes for some funky reason (see the votecount I quoted)

vote: Erg0

again .

I have no idea what to think about Goblin finder, or me being "found as a Goblin", but I'm not one.

Erg0, unless he has some really great information about why he targeted cow, is scum. He should be today's lynch. If he isn't scum, feel free to lynch me the next day. But I'm fairly sure he is scum, I can't think of a reason for a town player to be targeting cow last night.

Why wait when you have a "cop" with a guilty?

My reasons are quoted in the post you are quoting.........

I'd rather lynch someone that has a guilty against them over the person who is guilty's tracking target.

[Flameaxe]

Well, do we even know what "goblin" means in this game?

Where do you get the connection that goblin = guilty?

Even with that, I'm not a goblin. I'll PM Stoofer to make sure, but uh, I'm *not* a goblin. I'm a *hobbit*.

I'm not surprised you want to vote me though Flameaxe, you wanted to late yesterday and I see no reason for you to be open-minded and try and find scum, instead of sticking with the same person forever. Oh wait, there are lots of good reasons for that .

I'm considering a Goblin finder getting a result of Goblin as a guilty, as thats what fits best with the flavor of the claim.

I'm voting you for being scum.

[Flameaxe]

FoS Skruffs for FoSing people.
FoS Skruffs for Double FoSing, when it was clearly not called for.

[Flameaxe]

I can fos anyone I want, Claus.

I realize

that in the heat of the moment, I forgot that he was the other mason. My fos wasn't based on that.
However.
Regardless of if he is confirmed, It's really scummy to be trying to tell people to kill me, considering I don't remember him actually saying he thought I was scum earlier in the game.

Gorrad: Why would I vote you? I am happy with my fingers.

FlameAxe: Fos's noted.

Yay I got noted!

[Flameaxe]

Hi.

[Flameaxe]

I'm leaning Thesp myself.

[Flameaxe]

Will try catching up tomorrow.

[Flameaxe]

I hope that we kill all the bad guys and only the good survive!

Can I get an amen?

If there *IS* a cult leader, I imagine it would be this fella right here. *points to MikeBurnFire*

i c wat u did thar.

[Flameaxe]

New threadless Shirt this week...seems fitting for this thread and all...

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