Mini 1891: Fat Boy Mafia [Over]

[WhemeStar]

game is stagnating bc the leading wagon is on town and the competing wagon is on scum

VOTE: wheme

if you are town it is in my best interest to keep you alive

in order to keep you alive i must know that you are town

in order to know that you are town i must receive tributes of reasonings and myrrh

once i know you are town i may direct my attentions to the other scumlord candidates

Hey bud I'm town so direct your attentions to the other scumlords

[WhemeStar]

pieg is town because people are wagoning him for shit reasons that are most likely fabricated and fake.

But Desp reason on me is "he's scum and has no idea what to do"

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

No one do anything stupid until after tomorrow night mkay? Should be able to devote time Tuesday night to review what's up as I dont remember Wheme from my previous readings.

[Alisae]

quite frankly I townread Wheme.

[WhemeStar]

I am not going to be here for remainder of this game day.
Got to prioritize shit right now.

I will miss you fire.

[Alisae]

/me does something stupid to taunt Gin.

[pieg]

regardless of whether you think you can get a read off pine's actual posts due to them not containing words, you are still able to see who he interacts with and how

saying that you can't get a read off pine's posting is just lazy

Or saying you

can

get a read from it is just BS.

Do you believe the post restriction?

I can get a read from it, albeit a weak one. He has taken stances and responded to thread. Other slots have responded to him. There's very little in mafia that is not ai if you grok it well. For instance, do you think that people have expressed displeasure over the memes without wagoning him is alignment indicative or pine indicative? It's irrelevant whether i believe the restriction or no, what's significant is why he would be faking one, and what the implications are for treating the slot if it continues beyond d1.

Also, why is there only one interpretation of wheme's behavior under pressure? If he's scum with no clue what to do and people want to kill him, why would he not simply feel more paralyzed? Why the need to impose a stereotyped behavior pattern on him?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Oh, and before I joined, I didn't like persivul in the beginning, don't know why he did but there's that.

So wake me up to why percy is a good or bad noodle if ya could :p

[Alisae]

Yeah I don't like him either Gin.

[WhemeStar]

Oh, and before I joined, I didn't like persivul in the beginning, don't know why he did but there's that.

So wake me up to why percy is a good or bad noodle if ya could :p

He can be town

[WhemeStar]

Yeah I don't like him either Gin.

Why not

[Alisae]

Oh, and before I joined, I didn't like persivul in the beginning, don't know why he did but there's that.

So wake me up to why percy is a good or bad noodle if ya could :p

He can be town

Why?

[WhemeStar]

Oh, and before I joined, I didn't like persivul in the beginning, don't know why he did but there's that.

So wake me up to why percy is a good or bad noodle if ya could :p

He can be town

Why?

I liked his posts on pg 35

[pieg]

VOTE: Aliz by far my first choice today, all his posts are cautious and non-committal

pieg, Alisae, Firebringer and TheRealGin-N-Tonic are all obvtown

Leaning town for Desperado and Nosferatu

Never played with Persivul or Pine before and their play didn't really stick out to me... null

I'm going back and forth on Wheme being scum or town with no motivation

scumleaning massive, his 729 post is just awful and shady

Why am i obvtown? Why is 729 awful and shady and how is that ai? Why is nos a townlean?

Phone posting is shit

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Oh, and before I joined, I didn't like persivul in the beginning, don't know why he did but there's that.

So wake me up to why percy is a good or bad noodle if ya could :p

He can be town

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Spoiler: Alright, now explain what posts caught your fancy and what about them you found truly town motivated.

My case is simple and I already stated it. Wheme got a scum PM and doesn't know what to do, which has resulted in his dumpster fire of an ISO.

If someone is townreading him I want to know why.

Thing is that if his ISO were really a dumpster fire, you'd be able to make more than a simple case. It seems like you're saying that he's a hard null to you. I get voting a hard null for pressure. But, by asking if anyone town reads him and if so why, you seem to be moving the burden of proof so that null becomes scummy.

I don't like giving progressio. I like keeping my thoughts to myself if I can

Key word being "if." You don't have the track record to support that yet.

The reason I try and keep my thoughts to myself is because I'm afraid of my thoughts being wrong.

That's one reason to put your thoughts out there if you're town - so if they're wrong they get corrected.

why do people not like explaining to me why they think i am town?

Why are you obsessed with having people explain why they think you're town?

Would also be nice if darklyn did anything at all before the day ends since the prana wagon sort of spontaneously appeared then spontaneously disintegrated and now we're left with a slot that more or less lurked through the first half of the day and has made three contentless posts since being replaced.

Agreed.

That slot and pine are both mostly unreadable for me right now. I don't understand the strong townreads on pine.

And again. I get it if people see votes on him as policy and don't want to do that, but town reading him is BS.

I am a tone reading and I don't feel any sense of frustration from Whemes posts tbh.

Neither do I, and I don't feel any sense of caught scum panic either, especially considering he's fairly new. Do you?

regardless of whether you think you can get a read off pine's actual posts due to them not containing words, you are still able to see who he interacts with and how

saying that you can't get a read off pine's posting is just lazy

Or saying you

can

get a read from it is just BS.

Do you believe the post restriction?

Thing is that if his ISO were really a dumpster fire, you'd be able to make more than a simple case. It seems like you're saying that he's a hard null to you. I get voting a hard null for pressure. But, by asking if anyone town reads him and if so why, you seem to be moving the burden of proof so that null becomes scummy.

shit pers you're right, when i said multiple teams that i think wheme is SCUM who doesn't know what to do and is trying and failing to replicate what he thinks his town meta is i really meant he's just null

OK, my "to you" wording was bad, so I'll restate: while you take the position that wheme is scum, the reasoning you give is more consistent with a null read.

Also same question I asked FB: "I don't feel any sense of caught scum panic either, especially considering [wheme]'s fairly new. Do you?"

Sup

who /fatboy/ here?

Hmmm

So why'd you bother replacing in?

so do you have an opinion on the wagon or what?

It's served its purpose. There's ~3.5 days left. I think we should wagon up

VOTE: Darklyn

for now. If you're really hot on wheme, there will still be time to move back to it.

huh???

that's not an opinion

Nope. Neither is

[crickets]

an answer to the question, "I don't feel any sense of caught scum panic either, especially considering [wheme]'s fairly new. Do you?"

why did you unvote pieg

I want to hear from darklyn.

[Darklyn]

VOTE: Aliz by far my first choice today, all his posts are cautious and non-committal

pieg, Alisae, Firebringer and TheRealGin-N-Tonic are all obvtown

Leaning town for Desperado and Nosferatu

Never played with Persivul or Pine before and their play didn't really stick out to me... null

I'm going back and forth on Wheme being scum or town with no motivation

scumleaning massive, his 729 post is just awful and shady

Why am i obvtown? Why is 729 awful and shady and how is that ai? Why is nos a townlean?

Phone posting is shit

bc ur obvtown obv

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Good vote to sleep on

VOTE: Darklyn

[Alisae]

Gin go iso Prana and gimmie a read on that ISO.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Already skimmed it a week ago. Was going to replace that slot because I thought it was towny enough.

[Alisae]

Isn't the Darklyn slot the Prana slot?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

To be fair I do have self-doubt about the slot after losing to him in a LyLo.

P-Edit: If it is, Dark ain't doing it justice. Reading him as awkward and dicking around. Interacting without really trying to get dirt under his nails.

[Darklyn]

yes

[Alisae]

I caught it in that game Gin along with Lexa but it's okay no one listens to Alisae I mean wat.
I mean like, I hate his ISO don't get me wrong but I like his Alz vote atleast. Feels genuine to me.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I'm so sorry I still hate that game

Dark, are you a new member or have you played before?