[OLD] Open Setup Discussion and Nominations

[shaft.ed]

I didn't think the Millers would be informed of their Millarity.

[Adel]

Of course they would be! Secret Millers are not normal roles.

[shaft.ed]

Of course they would be! Secret Millers are not normal roles.

[Kelly Chen]

I think advocacy for millers knowing that they are millers is a relatively recent thing.

[Mr. Flay]

I think advocacy for millers knowing that they are millers is a relatively recent thing.

[Mr Stoofer]

The Golden Child Mafia

:

1 Golden Child

: At the start of the game, the Town is told the identity of the Golden Child. The Golden Child is also a regular Sane Cop. If the Golden Child dies, the Town loses.

3 Protectors

: As long as any Protector is alive, a Nightkill attempt on the Golden Child will fail. In effect, they are each Docs who can only protect the Golden Child.

5 Townies

.

3 Mafia

. They win if they can nightkill the Golden Child.

A day start would probably be appropriate.

I'd be interested in seeing the results of a simulation.

[Seol]

I think advocacy for millers knowing that they are millers is a relatively recent thing.

I don't see the appeal for millers who don't know they're millers, from a design perspective. Strikes me as bastard-modding.

[Kelly Chen]

The only thing I can see is that in an open setup, a miller who knows they're a miller has a valuable claim.

[Adel]

a. I believe that there hasn't been an Open game with a miller yet
b. I thought the consensus was that a normal miller is told in his role pm

which assumption was I mistaken in?

[shaft.ed]

To be honest I've never played in a game with a Miller, and they are pretty rare. The few times I've read games including them, it appeared as though they were not informed. Also the few times I've seen scum claiming miller, it's always proposed as "I must be a Miller then" if a cop gets guilty on them. While this strategy is generally non-viable anyway, it seemed like the only way it could possibly work is if Millers don't know they're Millers.

[shaft.ed]

Nominate Adel's Cop Town | Miller Town

I think I could enjoy this game

[Kelly Chen]

a. I believe that there hasn't been an Open game with a miller yet
b. I thought the consensus was that a normal miller is told in his role pm

which assumption was I mistaken in?

I think there is a near-consensus (though perhaps not!) that it's best if a miller knows that he's a miller. I don't remember any claims about which way is "normal" though.

[Adel]

Kelly: I'll start a thread in MD on the subject then.

[Thesp]

Going in queue now

Vengeful Mafia
Strawberry Mafia
Friends and Enemies 2.0

Nominated, not yet seconded

Vigilante Mafia 2 - 3 Goons,1 Vigilante,8 Townies,Day start
Mini Love
AITP
IH's Superkill Mafia
Nebraska Justice
7-player Vengeful
mafia and werewolves
Too Much Scum
Picking Simplicity
Roleblocker C9
C9++
Large Vanilla with a dash of Koolaid (4 Mafia, 1 odd-nking, nonnightkillable SK, 15 townies)
C/9ths (2 scum, 1/9ths chance that each player will be cop or doc, 10-# power roles townies)
Jester Mafia
Mafia of the Lost
Dethy/Dethy+1


I'm fond of Large Vanilla with a dash of Koolaid and C/9ths, and will run them if other things don't get seconded.

I really, really like Cromwell I Mafia - I'm not sure if it should be an Open Game. Let me know if it runs, I want to play in it.

[Kinetic]

Nominate or Second Texas Justice

[Phate]

Second AITP

[Flameaxe]

Third AITP

[Khelvaster]

Second jester

[Adel]

mafia of the lost

1 Mafia Goon
2 Mafia Roleblockers
2 Shadows (hides behind another target player, if that player is Nk'd so is the Shadow)
2 Trackers (learns the name of the player targeted by target player)
1 Doctor
4 Townies

The first member of the Mafia to PM the mod with the target for the NK is the one who makes the kill. If the Mafia roleblocker makes the kill, and targets a player to block, a watching tracker will receive the names of both targeted players. If a roleblocker targets a tracker, then the result of the tracker's investigation will be "no player targeted". If a tracker targets a role blocked by a roleblocker, his investigation will still accurately name the player targeted.

Nominate Adel's Mafia of the Lost

Best setup by Adel, I'd like to play it.

Nominate Vengeful

Nominate Jester mafai

Lets get some in the thread.

will this get a second?

[Thesp]

Nominate Basic 12 Player (with NoNoLynch)

[Shanba]

Second Mini Love

I like lover roles.

[Simenon]

third AITP

I also think we should have some kind of simple speed game in the queue.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Speed Mafia

1 Kill-Immune Mafia GF
2 Mafia Goon
1 SK
8 Townies

SK can kill during the day, once each week, but can't kill at night.

[Xylthixlm]

Has anyone suggested a smalltown setup yet? How about this...

1 Cop (gets innocent on SK)
1 Watcher
1 Vigilante
1 Jailkeeper
1 Faith Healer (50% doc)
1 Martyr (doc who dies if he stops a kill)
1 Suicide Bomber (day ability; kills the suicide bomber and another player)
1 Copycat/Mimic (duplicates any other player's night action to a target of the copycat's choice; can duplicate mafia kills)
1 Double Voter
1 Bulletproof (2 uses, doesn't stop SK)
1 Vanilla
1 Super Backup (gets the role of the first player to die)

3 mafia, 1 SK, 8 town. Day start.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Quick

somebody run cromwell I

like b4 I graduate and get a real job.