Battle Mage wrote:Pooky made a case?
I'm surprised you've been around this long and you still don't know a case when you see one.
Battle Mage wrote:One of the main characteristics (good or bad) about me is that i tend to stick to my instincts even in the face of every other player saying im wrong.
And when your instincts are wrong? You can't play this game on instincts alone. You have to base your judgments and decisions on logic.
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Actually I've decided that it's dumb to do back and forth with you because we're moving closer to the deadline and we need the Jester to understand that my case is ironclad.
The only way the Jester wins is by making the Town Lose in the endgame if he has been revealed.
Basically the Jester effectively moves the town one day closer to the endgame if he claims and survives till then.
However LYNCHING the jester does EXACTLY the same thing as not lynching him. By lynching him, we are ALSO moving the game one day closer to the endgame, which is the same thing we do if we leave him alive.
EXCEPT WHEN WE LEAVE HIM ALIVE, WE HAVE A CHANCE OF LYNCHING MAFIA, WHEREAS IF WE LYNCH HIM WE HAVE NO CHANCE OF LYNCHING MAFIA.
So yea, I'd guess keeping him alive is the town's best play.
In
bold
is the heart of the argument. We don't want to waste time lynching non-scum.
Battle Mage wrote:*dont ask me why im even bothering arguing this in defence of the Jester. I just HATE lies stated as fact.
I wonder how you play as scum, then. Do you go out announcing to everyone "Hey, guess what? I hate lies, so I'm scum"?
BM, why don't you just give us a clear, non-ambiguous reply to mith in #276? You're emitting a plethora of scum-confusion tactics from your miserable, obnoxious self. Do you like being unpopular? Does it make you feel better to have a bad reputation on MS as being one of the most unfun players to play with?
Pooky's post #280 should leave
no doubt
for the jester to claim. At this point, an unclaimed jester is a
bad
jester.
Battle Mage wrote:And to think, i was trying so hard to be polite, and avoid getting into a flame war.
Lies. I know what's going on in the minds of attention-seeking players like you. You act as a detriment to the town in every game you play, regardless of your role. It's a playstyle that's hard to read, but it's also a playstyle that isn't enjoyable to participate with. Do you like having fun at the expense of other people? If yes, what does that make you? Why bother pulling a Slayer's Gambit? It's not a good way of catching scum and it only serves to confuse the town even further.
Conclusion: I know what the B in BM stands for. Bad play. Unless he's deliberately being anti-town, in which case we should lynch him as soon as possible.
@the jester: if you're worried about getting lynched D1 after your claim, there's no chance of that happening. We're not horrible players who only seek to make one person lose. I'm sure the town would rather have a higher chance of finishing second place instead of a much lower chance of winning it outright. Here's how your not claiming hurts the town:
1. It gives scum the opportunity to claim jester, which is incredibly detrimental to us.
2. It creates confusion among the town. We already start out with hardly any information as it is.
3. A late jester claim, as elaborated on by Pooky and mith, can be devastating for the town in the end-game.
If you just claim now, all those problems will go away, and we can turn our attention to catching scum instead of wasting our time on figuring out who the jester is.
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