Thespival Mafia (Denouement)

wolfcrier · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:45 am

His logic seems off and I might of missed something in the ten pages I missed so i'm simply waiting for more information that I can put together

Captain Bandwagon · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:46 am

Do a reread, then post player summaries/random thoughts?

RossWilliam · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:08 pm

BM, you have to at least admit that it's extremely plausible to hold a case against Greasy spot, regardless of whether or not your personally believe it or not. Denying any kind of plausibility when it's blatantly there for all who can read just makes you look scummy.

Speaking of GS, am I just silly or is he keeping a low profile now? he doesn't do much to help his case. Nobody likes a formerly scummy lurker.

Captain Bandwagon · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:10 pm

MOD, can you check the IP addresses of GS and BM?

It would be really, really interesting if they turned out to be the same.

Mastermind of Sin · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:55 pm

...if BM and GS were the same, they couldn't be both playing in this game. It's against site rules, and both accounts would get banned by mith. Regardless, though, the mod doesn't have powers to make such a check, but I suppose he could notify mith if he actually thought that was the case. I'd assume that if GS is an alt, Thesp already knows who it is, so your request is completely pointless.

Battle Mage · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:52 pm

Captain Bandwagon wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Captain Bandwagon wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
RossWilliam wrote:Battle Mage i noticed Greasy Spot is missing from your suspect list. I'm curious as to why you find him innocent?
The wagon on him was a ridiculous facade for some wierd ploy to off the Jester. There is absolutely no reason to suspect him atm, hence he is not on the list.

BM
You gotta be kidding me.

FOS: BATTLE MAGE
Whats the case on him then, Poirot?
FoS's are lame. Dont be a pussy. Make it a vote.

BM
Nice attempts to draw me into a flame war, but that's not the point of this game. Why the FOS? Because I'm already voting GS. I'm voting him for the following reasons:

Pooky's rock solid case in #62 shouldn't leave any question about the jester claiming D1. Despite that, GS continued to stir up the pot. The strategy is both pro-jester and pro-town, so only scum would be unhappy with it. PJ cleared things up even more in #92, but GS pretends not to understand to confuse things even more. It isn't until #98 that he even admits that he could be wrong. In #106, he made a very sarcastic post that pinged my scumdar like an asteroid.

And you say there's no case against him? Something's fishy here. Are you trying to dig your own grave?

Nice attempt to suck upto Pooky. But in actuality his case was far from completely 'rock solid', which i have already addressed, had you been reading. Im not even sure you have read Pooky's case in its entirety, as i seem to recall him also highlighting how the Jester claiming was very pro-scum too. If i'd been here, i'd have probably behaved the exact same way as GS. Ill go back and read post 106, to see whether that alone constitutes suspicion, but if you think you have enough for a well educated vote, you are sorely mistaken.

Battle Mage · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:57 pm

RossWilliam wrote:BM, you have to at least admit that it's extremely plausible to hold a case against Greasy spot, regardless of whether or not your personally believe it or not. Denying any kind of plausibility when it's blatantly there for all who can read just makes you look scummy.

Speaking of GS, am I just silly or is he keeping a low profile now? he doesn't do much to help his case. Nobody likes a formerly scummy lurker.

Well yes i recognise that lots of people seem to think there is a case on him. I just think they are wrong. lol
The main reason behind his wagon was his attitude to the Jester issue, something which i can totally relate to. Thats not to say he isnt scum, but atm, there is absolutely no reason why i would vote for him.

@Captain Bandwagon- LAWL. You think just because someone doesnt agree with you, they are clearly a rulebreaking alt user? Im offended. and

Mith

can confirm awareness of any and all multiple accounts i am in possession of, as can moderators of all my games in which it is an issue. Let me guess. Are you the alt of Jdodge? or Quagmire?

BM

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:11 am

Why would the town choose to lynch the Jester on day one BM?

Thesp · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:20 am

FYI: I've been assured that Battle Mage and Greasy Spot post from different IPs. Carry on.

Official Vote Count

Note:

Cult of the Couch Members:

1 (tyhess)

Greasy Spot - 7

(curiouskarmadog, mith, PookyTheMagicalBear, Captain Bandwagon,

Cult of the Couch (1)

, Iammars, Mastermind of Sin)

mith - 1

(Greasy Spot)

Mastermind of Sin - 2

(Dani Banani, QuickBen)

Iammars - 2

(MeMe, hasdgfas)

Dani Banani - 1

(Battle Mage)

Not Voting - 8

(al_kohaulec, Dark Ermac, Fletcher, RossWilliam, Talitha, wolfcrier, petroleumjelly, Holy)

With 21 alive, it's 11 to lynch.

Prodding all players who haven't posted in the last 72 hours, and replacing all non-responders.

Fletcher · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:15 am

HI!

Sorry everybody. I totally forgot about the game, but now I will make it a priority. I will have a coherent post this afternoon. Right now I have school.

Iammars · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:24 am

Battle Mage wrote:@Captain Bandwagon- LAWL. You think just because someone doesnt agree with you, they are clearly a rulebreaking alt user? Im offended. and
Mith
can confirm awareness of any and all multiple accounts i am in possession of, as can moderators of all my games in which it is an issue. Let me guess. Are you the alt of Jdodge? or Quagmire?

I believe he's the alt of Disciple Slayer.

Holy · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:33 am

Well I can see from the jester side to win as soon as possible too (with not revealing oneself as the jester) by just trying to behave normally-neutral-enough (lol!) on Day 1 to survive the lynch and to avoid the 1st NK, and 'home free' on Day 2 by behaving scummy enough to get the attention for a lynch.

Greasy Spot · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:16 am

Captain Bandwagon wrote:PJ cleared things up even more in #92, but GS pretends not to understand to confuse things even more. It isn't until #98 that he even admits that he could be wrong. In #106, he made a very sarcastic post that pinged my scumdar like an asteroid.

And you say there's no case against him? Something's fishy here. Are you trying to dig your own grave?

Bandy, Your antagonistic thought process proves you are way more scummy than I ever will be. It wasn't post #92 that cleared anything up. It was posts #96 and #97 that cleared it up for me. Posts #98 and #100 should have clued you in on the fact that I now understand yall's logic of the Jester coming out. But with all the scum stuck in your eyes you couldn't see straight.

Post # 106 was in no way intended to be sarcastic, it was truely authentic. If ya'll are so in to voting someone off for not following your train of thought then put me out of my misery now. I don't want to be here if you guys are going to bash me every chance you get because I don't agree with you.

unvote

Bandy

Greasy Spot · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:25 am

....What the hell was I thinking....

unvote
VOTE: mith

Whew...that was close...

ReElection Campaign!!!
VOTE mith for Head Scum

MeMe · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:48 am

unvote: Iammars
vote: Dani Banani

Still fun.

Battle Mage · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:41 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Why would the town choose to lynch the Jester on day one BM?

Because the town doesnt want the Jester to win, and for the reasons highlighted extensively by you, if the Jester claims, he will almost certainly not be NKed, and thus, will very likely win, which does not benefit the town.

@IamMars- Dont know who Disciple Slayer is either. Probably for the best. lol

@GS-your erratic voting really isnt helping anyone.

@MeMe- :good posting:

BM

Battle Mage · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:42 am

Thesp wrote:
FYI: I've been assured that Battle Mage and Greasy Spot post from different IPs. Carry on.

Muahahaha! The plan is falling into place. Quick my proxied pal, lets run up Dani-scum!

BM

Greasy Spot · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:50 am

Mastermind of Sin · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:39 am

I'm amused that Battle Mage is defending Greasy Spot by saying Pooky's case is illogical while Greasy Spot now agrees with the case that the Jester should claim today. BM is acting like he and GS are kindred spirits in thought process, when their own opinions seem to differ.

Greasy Spot · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:18 am

I didn't say I agreed with the thought process. I said I understood what they were saying. Too me Pookys post, as detailed as it was with examples, didn't really explain the issue. It wasn't very clear at all.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:00 am

How does the Jester win if the town knows who he is?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:00 am

I know it's a rhetorical question and I've outlined how he wins, but I want you to explain it so I know that you aren't just blowing smoke right now BM.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:04 am

Actually I've decided that it's dumb to do back and forth with you because we're moving closer to the deadline and we need the Jester to understand that my case is ironclad.

The only way the Jester wins is by making the Town Lose in the endgame if he has been revealed.

Basically the Jester effectively moves the town one day closer to the endgame if he claims and survives till then.

However LYNCHING the jester does EXACTLY the same thing as not lynching him. By lynching him, we are ALSO moving the game one day closer to the endgame, which is the same thing we do if we leave him alive.

EXCEPT WHEN WE LEAVE HIM ALIVE, WE HAVE A CHANCE OF LYNCHING MAFIA, WHEREAS IF WE LYNCH HIM WE HAVE NO CHANCE OF LYNCHING MAFIA.

So yea, I'd guess keeping him alive is the town's best play.

wolfcrier · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:13 am

ok my bad the post started blending together and it was GREASY SPOT who is being hypocritical and illogical therefore

Vote: Greasy Spot

Battle Mage · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:20 am

Mastermind of Sin wrote:I'm amused that Battle Mage is defending Greasy Spot by saying Pooky's case is illogical while Greasy Spot now agrees with the case that the Jester should claim today. BM is acting like he and GS are kindred spirits in thought process, when their own opinions seem to differ.

Pooky made a case? I thought we were talking about Pooky's discussion on the theory behind the Jester role...

My thoughts are, if enough people bully someone with enough force for enough time, eventually they give in. One of the main characteristics (good or bad) about me is that i tend to stick to my instincts even in the face of every other player saying im wrong. But there comes a time when you doubt yourself, especially in a game of this nature, im amazed to find myself disagreeing with so many legends of the game.
As for GS's views, i think post 269 will suffice as an explanation.

BM