I don't mean it as a slip. I mean it as I want Unknown to explain what difference it makes when he's lynched if he's one of the two candidates Unknown wants dead.
@fitz, I'm buying your reasoning for how teratascum could have ended up inadvertently pushing a D1 wagon on his partner despite me being at L-2. But it still looks a little reverse-engineered--I don't recall terata being that strong on me being town until after sheep's flip. I'm worried I'm going 180 on this guy too quick, maybe.
the caveat you did your pre-work for never came up again until everything was set-up in a sitaution where it would be perfect for you to swap your opinion of me as scum.
It doesn't really matter what caveats you laid since your main point of your comment was still to call me towny back then,
and the other part didn't come until it was convinient.
could have easily hopped on tbd!me, town!Wheme or tbd!Lowell.
So on what little VCA that does apply to her she
appears to be a town lean.
Appears to be a town lean is hardly a rousing town endorsement. And I explain in my vote post on you why the "easily hopped on" other wagons did not apply. The fact I make this point on the last day we have a chance to get a lynch is not convenient...it's necessity.
And why wouldn't it be reasonable to not give cred to unknown when the wagons had already swung at that point and people on lowell's wagon had swapped and it was clear sheep was getting lynched.
While Alisae was on the wagon earlier when it wasn't sure if Lowell or Sheep was the one who was gonna get lynched. The circumstances around these things are key.
p.s i don't see where (unless they did it long ago??). And no i won't "stfu". could you stop insulting? i think you're scum but that doesn't mean i dislike you as a person
If you don't want to give Unknown credit for his hammer that's fine. I find it telling that you are quick to give yourself town cred (and scum!Alisae) but not unknown. Pocketing for a lynch later in the game perhaps.
p.s. I don't dislike anyone in this game but if I think their play is terrible I'll tell them.
... he follows terata's (the guy unknown and fitz agreed they suspected more than each other) suggestion to vote fitz a few posts later. "Sometimes players change their minds!" arguments notwithstanding, this looks opportunistic.
In post 105, Terata wrote:i actually liked Lowell's tone in the vote. I think saying "who knows" and still vote a slip for pressure is a completely valid process to go through as town, and the way he said it looked towny to me.
Lil Uzi Vert- Believable towny reasoning for early thoughts about suspicion
Naomi- emotional towny outlash, ok interactions
AJ- Towny confidence+compactness in his reads.
PenguinPower- Does his own thing in a confident way, though this is null to town, since it could be NAI if it's his personality
Null:-
Lowell (ill be able to place him after i ISO)
gerry- isn't trying
Scum
Sheep- is trying but not being towny
In post 602, Terata wrote:i just iso'd Lowell. First off, i don't think the "slip" is ever a thing. Someone just doesn't slip on that kind of level to call someone right when they called them scum. Slips that actually works is of a different kind, where the mindset of the person just doesn't line up with a town mindset but it does as a scum mindset. What he did doesn't make sense as either.
Second, i think towards the second half of his posting, he's felt very free-flowey and real to me. So my gut says town there even though i think his accusation about "derailment of sheep wagon" vs Chaos is pretty bullshit. I think it's a thought that a town can get if they have preconvinced thoughts about whether a wagon is good/bad.
Lowell-Free-flowey and sounds like he's solving the times he's been here. He gives real-sounding thoughts that doesn't seem like a try to get townread to me.
gerry- isn't trying
^ There may be more. This is a good start as to why you were not an option over the voteless Sheep wagon.
... he follows terata's (the guy unknown and fitz agreed they suspected more than each other) suggestion to vote fitz a few posts later. "Sometimes players change their minds!" arguments notwithstanding, this looks opportunistic.
What would unknown gain on this "opportunistic" change Lowell? unknown could've just taken the easy mislynch on me with all the pressure on me. That's why FITZ's change can be seen as opportunistic, while unknown has nothing to gain, and only makes it harder for themselves to get the mislynch by changing their mind.
In post 105, Terata wrote:i actually liked Lowell's tone in the vote. I think saying "who knows" and still vote a slip for pressure is a completely valid process to go through as town, and the way he said it looked towny to me.
Lil Uzi Vert- Believable towny reasoning for early thoughts about suspicion
Naomi- emotional towny outlash, ok interactions
AJ- Towny confidence+compactness in his reads.
PenguinPower- Does his own thing in a confident way, though this is null to town, since it could be NAI if it's his personality
Null:-
Lowell (ill be able to place him after i ISO)
gerry- isn't trying
Scum
Sheep- is trying but not being towny
In post 602, Terata wrote:i just iso'd Lowell. First off, i don't think the "slip" is ever a thing. Someone just doesn't slip on that kind of level to call someone right when they called them scum. Slips that actually works is of a different kind, where the mindset of the person just doesn't line up with a town mindset but it does as a scum mindset. What he did doesn't make sense as either.
Second, i think towards the second half of his posting, he's felt very free-flowey and real to me. So my gut says town there even though i think his accusation about "derailment of sheep wagon" vs Chaos is pretty bullshit. I think it's a thought that a town can get if they have preconvinced thoughts about whether a wagon is good/bad.
Lowell-Free-flowey and sounds like he's solving the times he's been here. He gives real-sounding thoughts that doesn't seem like a try to get townread to me.
gerry- isn't trying
^ There may be more. This is a good start as to why you were not an option over the voteless Sheep wagon.
Why wouldn't i just lurk though like you suggested yourself?
In post 2333, Terata wrote:Why wouldn't i just lurk though like you suggested yourself?
At least with a lone vote on a partner you give the illusion of doing something...unfortunately for you the Lowell wagon disappeared and Sheep got lynched.
In post 2333, Terata wrote:Why wouldn't i just lurk though like you suggested yourself?
At least with a lone vote on a partner you give the illusion of doing something...unfortunately for you the Lowell wagon disappeared and Sheep got lynched.
You got the lurking part down the next 2 days.
why do you guys keep saying that obviously i didn't expect any follow-up to come when the most outspoken most village-read player in the game (frogg) had been scum-reading/pushing sheep? i'd get if sheep was under-the-radar not discussed much and scum, but he was literally a main suspect of Frogg who had lots of support.
I've acknowledged your comments, I'm busy but I'll get to them please do not end early again. Also, the more you insult me the less I tolerate you because I spoke about reading emotion.
I said not today because I've already decided that I would rather lynch Havingfitz or Terata. I'll go into more detail but I don't think IAI is scum but if I'm going to believe Terata and it isn't Havingfitz then I need to re evaluate.
It's not blackmail. I'm not voting Lowell, and I've already stated if it's not terata it's prob u. I'd rather end this game now (hence u or Lowell vote terata) but with deadline approaching I'm going to move to u if u keep hemming and hawing.
Once Lowell says his piece, if he doesn't move his vote u get one chance to hammer terata or my vote comes ur way.
I'd also appreciate you not name call like that. It's not necessary.
I don't gain anything from not voting her if I'm scum. You have not replied to anything I've said this game. If you want to lynch me, that is your choice. You won't like the result.
