Thespival Mafia (Denouement)

[petroleumjelly]

A few idle thoughts:

1.)

I've been thinking about hasdgfas' apparent restriction.

If he suddenly "drops" his restriction tomorrow (or a later day), I would suggest not lynching him unless there is a dead jester or we can be reasonably sure he is not the jester, since "breaking a restriction with no punishment" is an obvious tactic for the jester, if for some stupid reason they do not claim today

I'm also not sure why he has the "Amen"/"Hallelujah" in his posts, since we had nothing like that at Thespival when

we

played Mostly Mute. If it's the case that he is Mafia and there is nothing along the lines of "Monk" in his role-name (where the Amen/Hallelujah came from), I believe it is reasonable to assume somebody in the mafia is experienced enough to know about that particular game and suggested using those particular words. Regardless, it is probably reasonable to assume there is at least one experienced mafiate in any case, so this line of reasoning probably doesn't help things much.

2.)

Reading through, I find it hard to believe Greasy Spot went to such lengths to stall or avoid claiming jester / not jester. I can see how somebody might be confused or frustrated in his position, but

an innocent would have nothing to lose in simply claiming "not jester" straight away

and asking questions about the tactical advantages of the jester outing him/herself afterwards. His priorities seem all wrong.

The sarcastic replies and flippant attitude are also not helping him (not that I think it is scummy per se, but it

is

annoying). He also needs to answer my question for whether or not he can think of a method the Jester can avoid being nightkilled

other

than claiming Jester.

3.)

Upon further reflection, I think that tyhess has either got significant additional powers/mechanics and/or he's neither town nor mafia. If he's neither town nor mafia, he either has separate, unique win conditions or he simply is cult cult. Argh, that CotC is a complete mindfuck.

In the future, I would suggest against speculating as to the mechanics of roles when there have been no nights to verify/disconfirm said speculation. I also disagree with you anyhow; it seems perfectly reasonable for him to have that role and no other abilities, while being either town or mafia.

This almost strikes me as an attempt to poison the well against him in the future should he claim to have no additional abilities.

4.)

I have been watching everybody's toes carefully, but there has been nothing suspicious yet...

[Battle Mage]

Blah blah random votes blah.

Random votes are the devil. (We've got to kill the devil...)

Alright, first things first. The Jester should come out so we don't lynch him or her today. That's in everyone's best interests, right? Except the Mafia's. Jester, if you get lynched today, you lose. So you should come out now so that doesn't happen.

Hopefully the Mafia won't pretend to be the Jester, that would totally screw up this plan.

Mafia, did you follow all that? Don't pretend to be the Jester. MeMe? Got it?

Pooky, what do you think of the random voting so far?

I like this plan. I AM TEH JESTER!

[al_kohaulec]

4.)

I have been watching everybody's toes carefully, but there has been nothing suspicious yet...

I don't think you've been watching Mith's toes enough... *throws blanket over my toes when you look away*


And we have a jester claim!

We still need to hear from Fletcher, Dark Ermac, and wolfcrier though, for a potential counterclaim.

[Battle Mage]

Im still reading. Page 4 and GS is making alot of sense. I think i see what Mith is trying to do, but I cant fault GS's logic.

And no Al Ko, i'm not ACTUALLY claiming Jester as in the role. rofl.

Hint= Look at my title.

BM

[Battle Mage]

PJ and Mith arent making total sense to me on the Jester issue. I mean surely, the Jester is better off claiming on Day

2

when they dont risk being lynched on Day 1. And it means they only have to survive 1 night, and according to the Pooky theory, they win, right?

[Battle Mage]

Ok, my suspicions so far:

Suspects:
Dani Banani-scummy interaction with the GS wagon. And other weird bits pointed out by others. Top suspect for scum so far.
PetroleumJelly- Same reasons as Mith, with the addition of the suspicious use of an FOS when a vote is perhaps more appropriate. Post 182 smells terrible.
IamMars- Slip up with potential hidden knowledge?
Al Ko- Clearly trying hard not to upset anyone. Scummy reason behind avoiding confrontation?
MoS – Acting about as scummy as is possible. Kind of hard to see him as scum though, due to obviousness of scummy play.
Mith- Poor logic earlier on. I would like confirmation that he was trying to trap the Jester before I let him off the hook. Prime suspect for Jester-hood atm.
Captain Bandwagon- Not especially scummy, but VERY annoying. Just wanted that to be noted. Lol

Vote: Dani Banani

BM

[wolfcrier]

(Hey I can finally get on) after reading this whole thing Mith seems very scummy but I am reluctent to vote..

[wolfcrier]

Oh and no I am NOT the jester...unfortunatly

[curiouskarmadog]

Look at hasdgfas's posts, then read Mostly Mute Monk Mafia. It appears that he has the restriction from that game.

jesus christ, I dont have time to read the games I am in, much less a completed one I was never in, someone what to summarize for me?

[curiouskarmadog]

eidt: "want to summarize"

[Battle Mage]

(Hey I can finally get on) after reading this whole thing Mith seems very scummy but I am reluctent to vote..

Why does Mith seem very scummy?
Why are you reluctant to vote?

BM

[curiouskarmadog]

If he suddenly "drops" his restriction tomorrow (or a later day), I would suggest not lynching him unless there is a dead jester or we can be reasonably sure he is not the jester, since "breaking a restriction with no punishment" is an obvious tactic for the jester, if for some stupid reason they do not claim today

I'm also not sure why he has the "Amen"/"Hallelujah" in his posts, since we had nothing like that at Thespival when

we

played Mostly Mute. If it's the case that he is Mafia and there is nothing along the lines of "Monk" in his role-name (where the Amen/Hallelujah came from), I believe it is reasonable to assume somebody in the mafia is experienced enough to know about that particular game and suggested using those particular words...

well I guess it wont drop it now that you told him you would lynch him if he doesnt. Want to make sure I got this straight, since I wasnt at Thespival, there was no game where people yell "amen" and such in there posts?

ok, can someone provide a link to that game?

[Iammars]

well I guess it wont drop it now that you told him you would lynch him if he doesnt. Want to make sure I got this straight, since I wasnt at Thespival, there was no game where people yell "amen" and such in there posts?

ok, can someone provide a link to that game?

Here

And it looks like a long game, but it's really short to read through because of the theme of the game.

[RossWilliam]

Battle Mage i noticed Greasy Spot is missing from your suspect list. I'm curious as to why you find him innocent?

[Holy]

(Hey I can finally get on) after reading this whole thing Mith seems very scummy but I am reluctent to vote..

Why does Mith

seem very scummy

?
Why are you

reluctant

to vote?

BM

Because you sensed his evil tone...? O_o
Because you feared his evil counter..? o_O
Lol! j/k

[al_kohaulec]

Im still reading. Page 4 and GS is making alot of sense. I think i see what Mith is trying to do, but I cant fault GS's logic.

And no Al Ko, i'm not ACTUALLY claiming Jester as in the role. rofl.

Hint= Look at my title.

BM

So are you claiming not Jester?

[Battle Mage]

Im still reading. Page 4 and GS is making alot of sense. I think i see what Mith is trying to do, but I cant fault GS's logic.

And no Al Ko, i'm not ACTUALLY claiming Jester as in the role. rofl.

Hint= Look at my title.

BM

So are you claiming not Jester?

I'm not the Jester, although in honesty, even if i was, i wouldnt claim at this point. lol

[Battle Mage]

Battle Mage i noticed Greasy Spot is missing from your suspect list. I'm curious as to why you find him innocent?

The wagon on him was a ridiculous facade for some wierd ploy to off the Jester. There is absolutely no reason to suspect him atm, hence he is not on the list.

BM

[Captain Bandwagon]

BM = Badplay Mage

Don't you see it? You bloody idiot. The jester has the best chance of winning if he claims now. Why risk getting lynched or NK'd?

Also, please answer post #238 by RW.

[Captain Bandwagon]

Battle Mage i noticed Greasy Spot is missing from your suspect list. I'm curious as to why you find him innocent?

The wagon on him was a ridiculous facade for some wierd ploy to off the Jester. There is absolutely no reason to suspect him atm, hence he is not on the list.

BM

You gotta be kidding me.

FOS: BATTLE MAGE

[Battle Mage]

BM = Badplay Mage

Don't you see it? You bloody idiot. The jester has the best chance of winning if he claims now. Why risk getting lynched or NK'd?

Also, please answer post #238 by RW.

Please continue being a retard. It suits you. I read Pooky's logic and frankly, it can be improved upon. If the Jester claims on Day 2, he not only saves himself from future NK's, but also avoids the Day 1 pitfall lynch. He only has to avoid 1 NK, and hes home free.

My analysis of you is looking pretty good right about now.

Ill respond to other posts tomorrow.

[Battle Mage]

Battle Mage i noticed Greasy Spot is missing from your suspect list. I'm curious as to why you find him innocent?

The wagon on him was a ridiculous facade for some wierd ploy to off the Jester. There is absolutely no reason to suspect him atm, hence he is not on the list.

BM

You gotta be kidding me.

FOS: BATTLE MAGE

Whats the case on him then, Poirot?
FoS's are lame. Dont be a pussy. Make it a vote.

BM

[Battle Mage]

umm upon further inspection, ive already responded to post 238. Please purchase some glasses kthxbai.

[hasdgfas]

BM's logic:

[Captain Bandwagon]

Battle Mage i noticed Greasy Spot is missing from your suspect list. I'm curious as to why you find him innocent?

The wagon on him was a ridiculous facade for some wierd ploy to off the Jester. There is absolutely no reason to suspect him atm, hence he is not on the list.

BM

You gotta be kidding me.

FOS: BATTLE MAGE

Whats the case on him then, Poirot?
FoS's are lame. Dont be a pussy. Make it a vote.

BM

Nice attempts to draw me into a flame war, but that's not the point of this game. Why the FOS? Because I'm already voting GS. I'm voting him for the following reasons:

Pooky's rock solid case in #62 shouldn't leave any question about the jester claiming D1. Despite that, GS continued to stir up the pot. The strategy is both pro-jester and pro-town, so only scum would be unhappy with it. PJ cleared things up even more in #92, but GS pretends not to understand to confuse things even more. It isn't until #98 that he even admits that he could be wrong. In #106, he made a very sarcastic post that pinged my scumdar like an asteroid.

And you say there's no case against him? Something's fishy here. Are you trying to dig your own grave?