Mini 1891: Fat Boy Mafia [Over]

[Firebringer]

Implosion is weird for me to read.
I should check his meta and see if this is normal.

Desp is kind of angle pushing a bit much but implosion not calling him out on the angle (kind of did but not really)

Man now I am fence sitting.
Implosion is more likely Town of pair if it's TvS

[Persivul]

Post restriction is bullshit. Mod said in the signup thread, "I guarantee no shenanigans etc."

VOTE: Pine

[Persivul]

Just got home from an eight fucking hour track meet
VOTE: alz

Happy Scum Day!

[Persivul]

@nexus

, you missed my vote in the VC (assuming there's no shenanigans).

Desperado remains an excellent vote.

pieg is town. Persivul is town. Wheme looks somewhat town, but not as town as I thought he likely would if he was town so we'll see. massive is likely town. Fire's decently likely town, his early tone felt off but i like his reads.

That's an awful lot of town reads for page 7.

[Persivul]

i did not say i was unsure on the whole.
and it was not for an extended period of time.
those are what fencesitting is. I really have no idea what you're saying right now.

Desperado, what do you think of me right now? Are you getting a scumread on me from this?

Scum can't really scum hunt. So, throw out some town reads and give a weak reason on one of them to look like you're doing something. Yes, scum would do that.

[Persivul]

Spoiler:

Curious what others think.

I think you severely underestimate Persivul.

I think it's easy to rail against someone as scum on day one.

I think it doesn't make a player town if they do.

I think Desperado is still a lovely wagon.

I think you severely underestimate Persivul.

I think it's easy to rail against someone as scum on day one.

I'm not townreading him for railing against you, I'm townreading him because his vote on you makes more sense from town than from scum and in the subsequent exchange he comes off as not caring how he's perceived.

Is Persivul particularly known for scum play? I haven't played with him in memory.

Let's note that I didn't rail against Grey. We had normal mafia interaction.

[Persivul]

PranaDevil (1) - PranaDevil

I don't mind the cutesy self-vote early in the the game, but leaving it there is bad.

[-Grey-]

Spoiler:

Curious what others think.

I think you severely underestimate Persivul.

I think it's easy to rail against someone as scum on day one.

I think it doesn't make a player town if they do.

I think Desperado is still a lovely wagon.

I think you severely underestimate Persivul.

I think it's easy to rail against someone as scum on day one.

I'm not townreading him for railing against you, I'm townreading him because his vote on you makes more sense from town than from scum and in the subsequent exchange he comes off as not caring how he's perceived.

Is Persivul particularly known for scum play? I haven't played with him in memory.

Let's note that I didn't rail against Grey. We had normal mafia interaction.

Let's note that I never said you did.

[-Grey-]

230 is exactly the kind of subtle shading Persivul excels at as scum because he knows he can pawn off his remark as not understanding the context of the post if he's called on it and lay the blame at my feet over it even though I already explained that I was referring to Desperado in the second statement of that post and he completely ignored it.

[Persivul]

230 is exactly the kind of subtle shading Persivul excels at as scum because he knows he can pawn off his remark as not understanding the context of the post if he's called on it and lay the blame at my feet over it even though I already explained that I was referring to Desperado in the second statement of that post and he completely ignored it.

Or maybe your post was just poorly worded. When you speak of the actions of an unspecified person, and you mentioned person A in the previous line, then mention person B two lines subsequent, it's natural for the reader to conclude that the unspecified person was person A. Note that implosion drew the same conclusion.

[Alz]

Blimey, that was a fast start

11 Damn it, I'm last again
If it's serious though, why grey, pine and implosion up there? Why desperado below the line?

13 Proud and true fat boys never pretend they diet or use diet coke


15 This is bad? Your reaction to it is what seems weird.

24 Guess I'm not cool anymore

26 If it's not problematic, why are you voting him?

162 Why does desperado remain an excellent vote? Why do you think pieg is town? What do you make of grey and the the wagon on him getting to L-2

188 I like this post. I agree with percivul and fire but why do you town read pieg's entry to the game? And that thing about being a double voter?

195 and 199 These interactions with grey are weird. That relentless try to convince grey is weird

Fire seems kinda town and so does grey and Persivul. Pieg and desperado give a weird scummy vibe.

UNVOTE: Grey VOTE: Desperado

[Alz]

Sorry, I've been absent of late. I'll try to be more active

[-Grey-]

230 is exactly the kind of subtle shading Persivul excels at as scum because he knows he can pawn off his remark as not understanding the context of the post if he's called on it and lay the blame at my feet over it even though I already explained that I was referring to Desperado in the second statement of that post and he completely ignored it.

Or maybe your post was just poorly worded. When you speak of the actions of an unspecified person, and you mentioned person A in the previous line, then mention person B two lines subsequent, it's natural for the reader to conclude that the unspecified person was person A. Note that implosion drew the same conclusion.

Note that my point was clarified LONG BEFORE you tried to use my post to throw shade.

[Persivul]

Note that my point was clarified LONG BEFORE you tried to use my post to throw shade.

Note that I was responding AS I READ.

[-Grey-]

Note that my point was clarified LONG BEFORE you tried to use my post to throw shade.

Note that I was responding AS I READ.

Note that you didn't bother correcting your response.

[Persivul]

There's no need to be repetitive.

[Persivul]

Grey, are you seriously trying to sort me at this point, or do you just need to be right on every single minor fucking point in the thread?

[-Grey-]

It's not about being right at all.

It's about how I don't trust you because you're far too detail oriented to get hung up on something like that as town.

[TwoFace]

So grey is probably scum.

[Persivul]

So grey is probably scum.

Why?

[-Grey-]

So grey is probably scum.

Why?

It's his standard opinion. Don't expect much in the way of a rational explanation.

[TwoFace]

So grey is probably scum.

Why?

His original reaction to getting run up, specifically the way he reacted to your vote specifically. Now his reaction to you again. They give me bad vibes

[TwoFace]

So grey is probably scum.

Why?

It's his standard opinion. Don't expect much in the way of a rational explanation.

And see this is a lie. So he's trying to discredit me before I can even respond.

[Persivul]

FWIW, Grey's reaction to his wagon seemed normal for him.

p-edit: I don't think so. In my albeit limited experience with him, scum!Grey would have panicked. Grey is generally overly concerned with his own standing as town, so I expect some reaction, but he didn't go overboard.

[TwoFace]

I challenge you grey to find evidence that my standard opinion of you is always scum.