Mafia 73: NEGWLTWWWTKY - Abandoned!

[Mastermind of Sin]

Scum would definitely be motivated to push the Quag wagon (easy lynch especially with TS tunneling like this)

There's no such thing as an easy lynch in this game.

46 pages, 23 wagons, Day 1.

Look at Mafia 69
63 page,

Day 7

Long days can be productive if they aren't clogged up by inane tunnel-vision attacks on people whose alignment can clearly not be determined that day. I was in a Mini with a 45 page Day 1, and I caught 3 scum that day. It's all about what you do with the time you use. This town, or more specifically, you, TS, are frittering away the pages with useless chatter that only serves to distract the town away from finding scum. One could almost make the connection that you are purposefully pursuing this crusade against Quagmire to keep the town from actually finding scum today.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Who besides Peers?
MoS is the only one that I feel quite happy about saying is scum.

And yet you

still

haven't presented a reasonable case for me to be scum. Funny that you are the most confident about me being scum without having a real case against me yet. Perhaps you'd like to amend that oversight, or do you just want to confirm the fact that you're throwing baseless accusations at me?

Besides him, the ones that I'm leaning scum on are Panzer, schis, and kscope. I thought Quag was town and the reasons for voting him were idiotic, but TS pointed out that Quag revealing that he hadn't read his role PM when he did was completely unnecessary, and I've been looking more closely at him. I'm not nearly as confident in him being town as I was before. I think he's possible, but slightly more unlikely than some of the others.

Not reading his role pm at all was completely unnecessary, too. Does that make him scum? I think not.

[Erg0]

This game is in danger of becoming a bilateral argument about Quagmire. TS, I think you need to accept that you're not going to change anyone's mind with further discussion on this point.

Whoever it was that asked me for a case on Peers: Read my first few posts after I voted him, and then continue that in your head for the remainder of the day. I just did that myself and I had a good point about BM in there too - methinks I shall have another look at him.

[Toaster Strudel]

This game is in danger of becoming a bilateral argument about Quagmire. TS, I think you need to accept that you're not going to change anyone's mind with further discussion on this point.

You're right. We have to keep this valuable player in the game. I changed my mind. I see the light.

unvote. vote: Bugs Bunny for President

[Toaster Strudel]

One could almost make the connection that you are purposefully pursuing this crusade against Quagmire to keep the town from actually finding scum today.

You're saying that like you know Quagmire's alignment. But I'm probably just paranoid as usual. I'm just going pretend I didn't notice.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Quagmire is not the reason I am in this game. He is a dumb kid behind a computer. Let's get to lynching hasd.

[Toaster Strudel]

Quagmire is not the reason I am in this game. He is a dumb kid behind a computer. Let's get to lynching hasd.

I have a better idea.

unvote, vote: MoS

[Erg0]

All this negativity is starting to bum me out.

[Toaster Strudel]

So now everyone can breathe a sigh of relief, because, having unvoted, our beloved Quagmire will be there again tomorrow to continue not playing the game and hating it.

Unofficial votecount for extra excitement:

Vote Count of no lynch ever:

4: Kscope

(Zu_Faul, Yosarian2, schismatized, MoS)

4: MoS

(Kscope, Panzerjager, IH, ToasterStrudel)

3: hasdgfas

(Peers, ABR, Bookitty)

3: Peers

(YagamiLight, Erg0, hasdgfas)

2: Quagmire

(Battle Mage, JordanA24)

1: Setael

(Sir Tornado)

1: Bookitty

(Quagmire)

1: JordanA24

(Setael)

[Albert B. Rampage]

......

[Erg0]

Work that post count, Albie!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Post-whoring is fun.

[Peers]

... This game confuses me greatly. I ca't decide who's trying to use reverse psychology and who doesn't...

[Erg0]

Which category are you in?

[hasdgfas]

he's obviously in the scum category

[Bookitty]

Okay. I don't agree with Toaster Strudel's tunnel vision on Quagmire. I think he's very likely scum, I don't buy his whole wounded-innocent act about how he had no idea that saying he hadn't read his role PM would cause such a hubbub... but I don't see how haranguing and baiting him is going to do anything but just delay matters further.

I think Peers is likely scum. He's had uneven and inconsistent responses throughout the game. Additionally, I think it's likely we might be able to come to some sort of consensus this century if we stop tunnelling on Quagmire and actually discuss something else.

unvote; vote Peers

[Setael]

Bookitty, what do you think of Jordan? Any merit to my case?

TS, same question for you.

[Bookitty]

I disagree with your case on Jordan, because the level of frustration in this game regarding the entire Quagmire issue has resulted in some pretty odd votes, not just by Jordan.

The entire "policy lynch" debacle followed by the role PM controversy and then the level of anger and vitriol on both sides of this debate have made this thread more a testament to personal hostility than to logic. And I think many of us would welcome a lynch of Quagmire just to put an end to some of that.

I don't read as much into Jordan's vote as you do, because I only replaced into this game recently, and I'm already tired of the argument between Toaster Strudel, MoS and Quagmire. I can't imagine what that would be like for people who have been here and active for the whole thing.

So while ordinarily I'd think your case on Jordan made a great deal of sense, I don't agree in this game.

[Toaster Strudel]

Bookitty, what do you think of Jordan? Any merit to my case?TS, same question for you.

Sorta, but there are way more candidates out there that I'd vote for before I'd vote for Jordan.

Namely, MoS, Yosarian2, YagamiLight, and Peers, for starters, and pretty much in that order.

[Toaster Strudel]

Unofficial "Let's Save the Quagmires" votecount

4: Kscope

(Zu_Faul, Yosarian2, schismatized, MoS)

4: MoS

(Kscope, Panzerjager, IH, ToasterStrudel)

4: Peers

(YagamiLight, Erg0, hasdgfas, Bookitty)

2: hasdgfas

(Peers, ABR)

2: Quagmire

(Battle Mage, JordanA24)

1: Setael

(Sir Tornado)

1: Bookitty

(Quagmire)

1: JordanA24

(Setael)

[Peers]

So I'm uneven and inconsistent now... well, if that's the worst arguement you've got against me, maybe you should hold off that vote until you have an actual reason for it?

[Mastermind of Sin]

I don't read as much into Jordan's vote as you do, because I only replaced into this game recently, and I'm already tired of the argument between Toaster Strudel, MoS and Quagmire. I can't imagine what that would be like for people who have been here and active for the whole thing.

You have

no

idea...

[Quagmire]

I don't read as much into Jordan's vote as you do, because I only replaced into this game recently, and I'm already tired of the argument between Toaster Strudel, MoS and Quagmire. I can't imagine what that would be like for people who have been here and active for the whole thing.

You have

no

idea...

I agree. I'm sure it's worse for the people involved.

[Peers]

Let's just say I've now got several names to look for on a player list before I join a game.

[Setael]

I replaced in more recently than you Boo, so I know what you mean. However, I think a large part of the reason the D1 lynch is usually a townie is people tunnel on those that are in the spotlight, while all the scums play it a little more low key. Not lurking or hiding, but like Jordan - careful.