Mini 527 - Doom in Valencia - Game Over!

[gorckat]

Have you read the whole game, Arakorn? You have

no

preference for whom you'd rather lynch?

[Jenter Brolincani]

Thanks, Guardian.

SirWario now needs replacing, Pra is having login issues.

[gorckat]

unvote

vote: soupfly

[Arakorn]

No, I just read on from where it had started (all players had joined).

No one stood out in particular, but at this point I'm far too busy with schoolwork to read through the whole thread in deep, maybe in a week I'd be able to do it.

[gorckat]

FoS: Arakorn

Maybe the deadline will hit in a week.

[MeMe]

I don't like the idea of a soupfly lynch, but I could get on board with lynching Arakorn.

[MeMe]

And, as a matter of fact --

vote: Arakorn

[neko2086]

Gorckat, seriously, what the hell? Soupfly isn't even among your top suspects, as you laid them out last page. Are you just joining a wagon for the hell of it? Or are you just trying to make me angry?

You asked where your votes are harming the town. In my opinion, voting without reason is never helpful,

especially

when there is a deadline and every vote needs to be taken seriously. With the deadline quickly approaching, I think we need to start narrowing down the list of votees to a few possible candidates. I think you, Gorckat, would make an excellent one, but unless you fail to explain yourself, I think DR is the best choice for today. Arakorn is a poor choice as he hasn't really contributed anything, which is a great cause for suspicion, but I think he ought to be replaced, honestly. I still think it's incredibly possible that he's a newbie thrown into a scum position and doesn't know what to do with it, but I also think it's likely he's a newbie who could quickly become an easy target for the scum to pick off. Actually, if he were scum in the first scenario, I would have expected him to join a wagon somewhere, regardless of how much he's read. On the other hand, he won't be of much help to the town if he's not participating, so as far as I can tell, there's not even a remotely safe read on this guy right now. I think attention should be focused elsewhere.

In case you're not all aware, the deadline is in 4 days, so, let's get the discussion going eh?

[gorckat]

Gorckat, seriously, what the hell? Soupfly isn't even among your top suspects...In case you're not all aware, the deadline is in 4 days

Someone needs to be at 3 votes if we're to learn anything.

SirWario is getting replaced. I'm willing to see if the replacement is better since some have said the criticisms of SW are a playstyle/demeanor thing.

Are you voting DR right now? At this game's glacial pace, I doubt you need to worry about a quick lynch.

I agree Arakorn might be better off replaced. I can't decide if I want to push a wagon on him based on the uselessness of someone who is unavailable to play the game or not, but I agree I'd have expected him to come down somewhere if he were scum. However- if he's scum, he benefits just as much by delaying things (one more person alive is one more to hide behind).

I will wagon whomever needs to be wagonned to lynch. At this point, I just want this fucking game to go to night so that something will happen.

[Guardian]

People get replaced when they leave the site or are in bad spots.

Sir Wario is hard to determine, since he is posting only in one other game, and that was about a week ago.

Personally, Sir Wario is still as an attractive candidate as ever, and moving a vote

because

he is getting replaced is in my opinion, at best, misguided.

[gorckat]

Yeah- I've seen that suggested elsewhere. Would probably make a decent MD thread after its not relevant here.

[MeMe]

I will wagon whomever needs to be wagonned to lynch. At this point, I just want this fucking game to go to night so that something will happen.

Hear hear.

[Guardian]

I will wagon whomever needs to be wagonned to lynch. At this point, I just want this fucking game to go to night so that something will happen.

Hear hear.

This sounds remarkably like scum talk.

"Let's just lynch anyone and hope day ends."

Scum can lynch whomever they want in this situation, and point back to their desire for the day just to be over. Granted, I've been known, even recently, to really want to end the day and do this myself as town, but seriously, we should try and lynch someone we feel good about lynching, not just anyone.

I highly support/encourage a SirW/Sikario8 lynch, and we should be highly suspicious of those not taking a stand.

[MeMe]

"Let's just lynch anyone and hope day ends" is not what the dude said and is not what I agreed with. The day will end, with or without a lynch, and it's better for it to be WITH a lynch. Do you disagree?

I'll switch my vote at deadline if that's what

necessary

to ensure a lynch. That's not my

preference

, but I'll do it if that's what has to be done to make sure we get some information.

[soupfly]

i've got three votes and the next closest person has 1 vote and the deadline is three days away. given the activity of this game, gorckat's vote is practically a death sentence.

i'll wait another day and if nothing changes then i'll claim.

[soupfly]

btw, another mass prod would probably be in order given the upcoming deadline.

here's updated vote count:

Vote Count

soupfly (3) - Archaist, SirWario, gorckat
Guardian (1) - Pra a Funkee Home Sapien
neko2086 (1) - soupfly
Sikario8 (1) - neko2086
SirWario (1) - Guardian
Gorckat (1) – Tarhalindur,
Arakorn (1) - MeMe

not voting (3) - Arakorn, Gorgon, Rikimaru

[Arakorn]

I will wagon whomever needs to be wagonned to lynch. At this point, I just want this fucking game to go to night so that something will happen.

Enough said.

Vote: Gorckat

Note to all: I am still here, it's just that until wednesday next week, I can't be that active, alot of goddamn schoolwork.

Tally:

soupfly (3) - Archaist, SirWario, gorckat
Gorckat (2) – Tarhalindur, Arakorn
Guardian (1) - Pra a Funkee Home Sapien
neko2086 (1) - soupfly
Sikario8 (1) - neko2086
SirWario (1) - Guardian
Arakorn (1) - MeMe

not voting (2) - Gorgon, Rikimaru

[gorckat]

I've already said that if we don't get sikario, SirWario, Gorgon to three, I'll take somebody out...why move now?

If you'd read the thread previously, you could have voted me then.

vote: Arakorn

for looking for the easy way out.

[Guardian]

To me, it seems that Arakorn has legitimate IRL activity problems. I don't understand the two votes.

Could y'all explain the reasoning?

I'd like an Arakorn alternative, for the moment, and still no one has stuck with Sir Wario, so:

unvote vote: Dead Rikumaru

[gorckat]

unvote
vote: Dead Rikumaru

That makes three for one of my top three!

@Guardian: I don't like Arakorn's lack of effort and cavalier deadline attitude, thus I voted him.

[neko2086]

Just for the record:

Rikimaru (3) - neko2086, Guardian, gorckat
soupfly (2) - Archaist, SirWario,
Gorckat (2) – Tarhalindur, Arakorn
Arakorn (1) - MeMe,
Guardian (1) - Pra a Funkee Home Sapien
neko2086 (1) - soupfly

not voting (2) - Gorgon, Rikimaru

I'm wondering if SirWario will be replaced in time. If not, does his vote still stand? Is Pra's issue being resolved? I'm just concerned that there will be stale votes at deadline.

[gorckat]

What's up with Archaist?

[Guardian]

"Let's just lynch anyone and hope day ends" is not what the dude said and is not what I agreed with.

MeMe, you quoted his

whole post

and said "hear hear" implying agreement with his post:

I will wagon whomever needs to be wagonned to lynch.

At this point, I just want this fucking game to go to night so that something will happen

.

Hear hear.

(emphasis mine)

The latter sentiment, which you also approved of, is what I find troubling -- "wanting the game to go to night" is an excuse to lynch anyone convenient. Do you

not

agree with his whole post?

The day will end, with or without a lynch, and it's better for it to be WITH a lynch. Do you disagree?

Nope, that's why I voted for Dead Rikumaru.

I'll switch my vote at deadline if that's what

necessary

to ensure a lynch. That's not my

preference

, but I'll do it if that's what has to be done to make sure we get some information.

That's all well and good -- again, the problem I had is that you agreed with the sentiment that you couldn't wait for the game to go to night, and presumably were moving forward with that as a basis for your actions.

[Guardian]

mod:

I'll also send you a PM, re: this -- if you are going to keep the deadline for in a couple of days, you need to make sure as many people as possible are active. it's not fair to the game otherwise.

[MeMe]

"Let's just lynch anyone and hope day ends" is not what the dude said and is not what I agreed with.

MeMe, you quoted his

whole post

and said "hear hear" implying agreement with his post:

I will wagon whomever needs to be wagonned to lynch.

At this point, I just want this fucking game to go to night so that something will happen

.

Hear hear.

(emphasis mine)

The latter sentiment, which you also approved of, is what I find troubling -- "wanting the game to go to night" is an excuse to lynch anyone convenient. Do you

not

agree with his whole post?

Alright, I get what you're on about now.

First: I didn't quote his whole post -- but I do agree with the parts I did quote, though I seem to interpret them differently than you do. You seem to be reading the whole thing as an action plan & I'm reading it as an assurance & a statement of frustration. So, basically, I'm saying "me too" to wagoning to ensure a lynch AND being tired of this endless nothing-happening day. To be clear: I was not saying that I was interested in a pre-deadline lynch (something I think would be pretty impossible anyway -- seven needed votes??).

As for why I'm voting Arakorn? Because, at the time I voted him -- soupfly was the leading votee & I do

not

like the idea of a soupfly lynch. gorckat suggested Arakorn as a possibility and, since I find him to be completely useless, I thought "alrighty then." He might claim to have lots of school work, but he

also

claims to have read the thread and to have (at least at the point I voted him) no leading suspects.

And, for the record, I do NOT want Jenter to extend the deadline. The only thing that seems to have sparked

any

activity in this game is the threat of pending deadline -- take that away, and I think we'll go right back down to "almost dead" status.