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Post Post #3950 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:44 am

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Was there a point to poking at that?
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Post Post #3951 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:49 am

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In post 3950, Heartless wrote:Was there a point to poking at that?
Yes. Given your stance (or at least one of your head's stance anyway) that I am the only acceptable lynch today I'm very confused as to why you unvoted me. My working assumption is you have long ago hashed out that I was scum between the two of you. The "No universe where MoI isn't scum" style comments make that pretty clear.

So what about looking at Molla with your other head necessitates that unvote? You two have overnight and whatever to discuss Molla if you really think I'm scum.

Unless my thoughts about the set-up are off my mislynch here should more or less seal the game for scum. So I can't really see it as a move by scum who has me and the rest of Town snowed.
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Post Post #3952 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:55 am

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Would you like to discuss Zefiend first, Heartless?
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Post Post #3953 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:09 am

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We still have four days and some change until deadline and I want to get this right.

Up to now, we've given Molla a pass based on setup speculation. While I'm inclined to agree with Anti that Molla's claimed role being scum wouldn't produce a balanced setup, I'm not certain Firebringer would agree especially if the scumteam started out at three.

Setting that aside, I don't like Molla's recent posting. I get the sinking feeling he's trying to delicately finesse his way on the wagon. Looking back, there's really nothing redemptive about his play and zefiend's position regarding Molla doesn't help.
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Post Post #3954 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:15 am

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In post 3949, Heartless wrote:Anti and I need to talk about Molla.
Why the fuck would I as scum let more discussion take place instead of just hammering

If I'm scum he's town, scum wins (assumedly)
If I'm scum he's scum, I get town cred

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Post Post #3955 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:38 am

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A jailkeeper is a pretty powerful deterrent to a quickhammer in MYLO.
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Post Post #3956 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:43 am

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Why would it just today occur to you that mastina might be scum? The feeling I got for most of this game is that you thought she was town genuinely making a bad read and you've been trying to talk her out of it.
Also, what changed your mind on AJ?
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Post Post #3957 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:02 am

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In post 3956, Heartless wrote:Why would it just today occur to you that mastina might be scum? The feeling I got for most of this game is that you thought she was town genuinely making a bad read and you've been trying to talk her out of it.
Also, what changed your mind on AJ?
I didn't think much of the scumread on me because my play was really lackluster and I've had some killer town games with mastin in the past. But I kind of PoEd it and also I believe by now mastin would realize I'm town.

AJs claim and his play is so relaxed. He just seems too mellow to have an agenda.
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Post Post #3958 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:44 pm

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Molla has been calling MOI scum. He could have just voted MOI and no one would have cared. If anything he's scum WITH MOI and is hesitant to vote him.
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Post Post #3959 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:55 pm

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i'll tell ya'll the same thing i told tth. it's not just about balance. molla's role leads to bad interactions with a town vig. and... well it is about balance too bc as it stands there's not enough claimed town power to justify giving scum both a vanillaizer and molla's role.

time to take the leap

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Post Post #3960 (ISO) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:17 pm

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I'll hammer in the morning.
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STALL MOR!
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #3962 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:04 am

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VOTE: MagnaOfIllusion

Still not scum and I hope this is right or I'll probably cry tbh. If it's wrong I'm likely way off base and it's Nero/Heartless/zefiend or some crazy shit
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Post Post #3963 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:06 am

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In post 3962, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: MagnaOfIllusion

Still not scum and I hope this is right or I'll probably cry tbh. If it's wrong I'm likely way off base and it's Nero/Heartless/zefiend or some crazy shit
Well be prepared to cry if you aren't scum posturing for "Oh, darn another mislynch" ...

Pre-emptive "I told you so" for not lynching obv-scum Zefiend.

If you get to tomorrow (and I have my doubts that is happening) turbo-lynch Zefiend and then lynch Nero when Zefiend flips scum.
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Post Post #3964 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:37 am

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Vote Count 5.07 Final


MagnaofIllusion [LYNCHED] Nero Cain, Zefiend, Aj The Epic, Heartless, BBMolla

Zefiend [3] MagnaofIllusion, Aj The Epic, Mastina,

Not Voting - [1] TheWayItEnds


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Post Post #3966 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:48 am

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Post Post #3967 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:03 am

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So firstly you
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Eventhough her excuses for why she wouldn't push Pine make no sense you can feel free to ignore it. Why?

and are basically scum claims. (can you fix this links?)

First in 3534, Mastin is accusing me of lying. LYING. No town would ever think that someone that is lying isn't super scum. And even if that's not good enough just look at the next sentence.
Really says something about how much I respect your towngame right about now, huh?
This is a slip that I'm town. I'm lying and she respects my town game
RIGHT NOW
?

And 3535 is not something that comes from town.
EVER.


If
she was town reading or had reservations about them then yes, I'd agree that her not lynching town was pro-town
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she was calling them all scum. She scumread Thinker, she scumread Cakezand just happens to avoid the Thinker wagon and the Cakez wagon twice? This isn't town being cautious, this is straight up scum that intentionally avoided these wagons.

Also that claim is so much bullshit that I'm getting pretty squinty eyed at anyone naive enough to believe it.

So now that we've lynched Darth
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Mastin what do we do next wise sage?

Well after Mastina it gets kinda murky for me. Blaster to my head? AJ is still my choice as scum. I still think is lack of use of use role was kinda wank. And he (like Mastin) were trying hard to lynch Z over MOI. Yes I know that AJ eventually voted MOI but Z likely wasn't going to get lynched and I could see AJ trying to salvage some town cred.I was going to do some meta here but I'm way to lazy so one of you need to look at AJ town games and see if he does the whole "I'm a poor player" "I'm bad at this or that" like he's doing this game. Idon't remember him doing that in 199 but yeah...

I'm a little bit paranoid of Heartless. A few days ago I was thinking about a Heartless-AJ team. Obviously that's not a thing. I've also been agreeing with the "Pine used his action thus no scum were in the hoood" but could that be a thing Mastina and Heartless pushed so Heartless could coast to end game? TTH is also right that all it takes is one mislynch so a MOI bus doesn't do much harm so was MOI a sympathy lynch and she floated that MOI/Z were buddies to lynch him the next day?

Days ago I had looked back at Street Fighter and the vibe I got was TWIE was different then this game. He's been shit with his vote and did kinda light defend Mastina at one point. I had also had the thought that maybe a 9/4 town would make sense and thus TWIE was POE scum. So maybe Heartless is right.

For Molla to be scum Mastina would have to sit on both her scumbuddies the majority of the game and its certainly possible despite her claims that she's never do it.

So lynch Mastina tomorrow and no lynch in 4 player LYLO.

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Post Post #3969 (ISO) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:43 am

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Vote Count 6.00



Not Voting - [6] Zefiend, Aj The Epic, Heartless, BBMolla, Mastina, TheWayItEnds


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Post Post #3970 (ISO) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:49 am

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Post Post #3971 (ISO) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:08 am

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Molla was unable to make that kill.
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Post Post #3972 (ISO) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:17 am

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hm....

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Post Post #3973 (ISO) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:26 am

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Post Post #3974 (ISO) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:34 am

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In post 3970, Heartless wrote:VOTE: molla
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