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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:29 am

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In post 798, FireScreamer wrote:
In post 102, mozamis wrote:oh, and fire's responses look town. he seems measured and questioning his attackers in a "i dont care, i'm innocent" kinda way.
time to stop voting fire.
In post 682, mozamis wrote:
VOTE FIREWATER


Havent seen anything town form him all game.
Lot of emoty bullshit.
While I totally get a townlean on me turning into a scumlean today (I just FOSed Eddie for NOT doing exactly that) this is a bit different. This isn't changing a read. This is misrepresenting your read's progression entirely. It's a slip. Either

1. She didn't townread me when she said she did. - Scummy!
2. The second post is willfully misrepresenting the progression of her read - Scummy!
3. She forgot she townread me earlier. Her reads don't have a progression because they are artificial - Super super scummy!

While i'd compromise on a Frank/Gerry lynch this is where my vote goes just now. This is dissonance in a way I can't find town reasoning for.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mozamis
this is a scumclaim btw and frank is the partner or he's trying to make frank look like shit

VOTE: fire
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:31 am

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Why is it a scumclaim? Why does my position on Moz have anything to do with Frank?
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:34 am

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you just said that you were gonna vote frank, the wagon escalates, you vote elsewhere.
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:37 am

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In post 802, Transcend wrote:you just said that you were gonna vote frank, the wagon escalates, you vote elsewhere.
When did I say I was gonna vote frank? I had Gerry over frank in my posts before Keyser voted.

I'll likely end up swapping to frank by the deadline because I caught the Mozamis slip too late in the day to form a wagon. That is 100% a slip though. She either lied in one of the posts for forgot in a situation where scum is so much more likely to forget. It is in my opinion the scummiest thing anyone has done in the entire game. If I try to communicate that without voting people won't take it seriously. I'm realistic though. I don't have an issue will lynching Frank.
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:38 am

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Talk to me about that slip Transcend. Do you not see what I see?
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:41 am

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then vote that way

a mz lynch doesn't have enough momentum to come about
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:46 am

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Alright I understand that but i'll revisit it tomorrow. And at any point in the game she flips red I'm coming after you for making me instantly weaken my position on her when I feel VERY strongly in a way I almost never do in day 1s that I just found scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Frank

Do not take this as weakness on this position people. If I felt a Moz lynch was realistic i'd be on this. It's not dissonance.
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:46 am

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Commit to saying if you agree/disagree with the fact that what I saw is very scummy Transcend.
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:05 am

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L2
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:12 am

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Nah. I'll sheep onto your wagon for practicalities sake as long as i'm not actively scumreading you, which is what I am happy to do now. You instantly put pressure on me for turning to Moz and now that I am on Frank you are trying to just ignore Moz talk while you feed her a defense in the PT.

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VOTE: Mozamis

Flipping her over Transcend. Then i'm flipping you over.
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:13 am

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what
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:16 am

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If you are town and share my view on that I don't see why you wouldn't say so. You arn't even looking at her as an alternative because you've tunneled onto one person and are so close you can taste it. Town has an open mind.

And if you don't share my view on it you'd have used to discredit a potential counterwagon to your real scumread.

She's scum. You are scum.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:22 am

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what
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:22 am

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Good point. Good point.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:28 am

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Take your time Transcend. I'd be pretty flatfooted at someone finding both me and a partner day 1 too.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:30 am

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If I don't get my way on Moz by the way today and I die tonight (Which seems pretty likely) don't be confused on what to do next guys. You go Moz and THEN you go Transcend.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:32 am

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or we could not railroad lynch on d1 reads?
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:33 am

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In post 816, Eddie Cane wrote:or we could not railroad lynch on d1 reads?
I mean sure but that post was more about the sequencing. You lynch Moz first because obviously my entire case on Transcend is based on Moz. You should also 100% be lynching Moz anyway.
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:34 am

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Why don't we just lynch Frank....
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:36 am

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In post 818, momo wrote:Why don't we just lynch Frank....
Because I now deeply scumread Transcend and i'm not getting in the van of people I don't like the look of. Why are you so afraid to look at alternatives and judge them on their merit?
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:36 am

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im dumbfounded because i have no idea what just went on in your mind if you are having a genuine thought process
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:36 am

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In post 818, momo wrote:Why don't we just lynch Frank....
Because I now deeply scumread Transcend and i'm not getting in the van of people I don't like the look of. Why are you so afraid to look at alternatives and judge them on their merit?
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:37 am

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In post 820, Transcend wrote:im dumbfounded because i have no idea what just went on in your mind if you are having a genuine thought process
Refusing to comment at all on my read was a mistake.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:37 am

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fire's probably town i don't know if there's any way scum can fake that

VOTE: frank
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:39 am

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True, we can vote Moz D2, compromise on Frank today.

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