Claim's that I find "off" : Anix, Yos, Pooky and MoS.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Crub, would you please explainwhyyou are voting Yos2? Obviously, I appreciate that you agree with me, but your vote without reasoning is, as stated earlier, unacceptable.
I agree with this.Crub wrote:Claim's that I find "off" : Anix, Yos, Pooky and MoS.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Crub, would you please explainwhyyou are voting Yos2? Obviously, I appreciate that you agree with me, but your vote without reasoning is, as stated earlier, unacceptable.
Anix - I'm giving the benefit of the doubt because of the timing.
Pooky - I'm very suss of Surf Nazi, but why wouldn't he just claim Bum?
MoS - No lynch is bad mmk + Vig option is better.
Leaves Yos + It just fit's for me.
Must have missed this....How'd you come up with that?...The "telling the truth, but recruited" part.YoS2 wrote:but lynching MOS really looks like a win-win to me; either he's a lying cult recruiter and lynching him is awesome, or he's telling the truth but was recruited
Well, like I said, I don't think the mod would make the cult recruiter lynchproof. So, if I'm right about that, then either he's lying and the cult recruiter, or he's not lying and was town at the beginning of the game. If he was town at the beginning of the game, then either he's still town or was somehow recruited. So I think the three possibilities are either he's a cult recruiter and the lynch will go through, he's pro-town and the lynch will fail, or he's a recruited cult member and the lynch will fail.Arafax wrote:Must have missed this....How'd you come up with that?...The "telling the truth, but recruited" part.
I dont see the backing for this statement. If we had a single cult recruiter, we could expect some mechanism to prevent a lucky day 1 lynch from ending the game. Unlynchable would give them at least 1 night to recruit.Yosarian2 wrote:Well, like I said, I don't think the mod would make the cult recruiter lynchproof. So, if I'm right about that, then either he's lying and the cult recruiter, or he's not lying and was town at the beginning of the game. If he was town at the beginning of the game, then either he's still town or was somehow recruited. So I think the three possibilities are either he's a cult recruiter and the lynch will go through, he's pro-town and the lynch will fail, or he's a recruited cult member and the lynch will fail.Arafax wrote:Must have missed this....How'd you come up with that?...The "telling the truth, but recruited" part.
Both myself and Yos pressed Crub on this one for more information on our respective recipiencies of his finger-pointing, but got totally ignored. Arguably Yos got his answer in post 3052, though.Crub (post 3008) wrote:I'm trying really hard not to come to the conclusion that Dasquian has been recruited.
unvote; vote Yos
You sounded like someone who privately was going "OMFG! You aren't believing the safe claim that I got from the freaking Mod?? It's the safest claim evah!!" With the exception of the first line, that's pretty much what you said publicly. That's the impression I got, so yes, it is a scumtell for me. You ignore the lynch results on David and the concept of safe claims (yes, Sam could very well be the safe claim for a CR) when you protest over much. You should have just accepted that simply claiming Sam doesn't clear you. As I said, I think you just had difficulty getting around the fact that your mod provided safe claim was being called into question.Yosarian2 wrote:Oh, so now me defending myself with a correct and perfectly valid point is a scumtell?Ectomancer wrote:And Yos, thou didst protest overmuch about the "safeness" of thine safe claim. Forsooth, I suspect treachery.
I don't see why it's theCrub wrote:Do you really feel that lynching me today is the right move?
I *AM* trying really hard not to come to the conclusion, that you've been recruited. Posts like that one don't make it easier.
I dont put any stock in Pooky's claim whatsoever. It tells me exactly nothing. It is equally likely to be true and to be a swift "stick your massclaim up your asses". and his "stick it" is equally likely to have happened with Pooky as town or as scum. Ive been in games with massclaim Pooky. if he doesnt want to play the mass claim game he wont play it.mariyta wrote:*I'm not 100% comfortable with the surf nazi claim, but the more I think about it, the more I realize Pooky wouldn't have been stupid enough to claim a group not in the game if he really was scum. He would have picked Beach Bum or something (he may be counting on people thinking that, but that would be serious WIFOM).
:goodposting:cicero wrote:I dont put any stock in Pooky's claim whatsoever. It tells me exactly nothing. It is equally likely to be true and to be a swift "stick your massclaim up your asses". and his "stick it" is equally likely to have happened with Pooky as town or as scum. Ive been in games with massclaim Pooky. if he doesnt want to play the mass claim game he wont play it.mariyta wrote:*I'm not 100% comfortable with the surf nazi claim, but the more I think about it, the more I realize Pooky wouldn't have been stupid enough to claim a group not in the game if he really was scum. He would have picked Beach Bum or something (he may be counting on people thinking that, but that would be serious WIFOM).
No, not at all. I've been the one talking about safe claims all game, if you notice, which is hardly something I'd be likely to do if the I was a scum with a good safe claim. And the "lynch results for David" are pretty clearly completly irrelevent, since we know that the bad guys are in fact the vampires.Ectomancer wrote:You sounded like someone who privately was going "OMFG! You aren't believing the safe claim that I got from the freaking Mod?? It's the safest claim evah!!" With the exception of the first line, that's pretty much what you said publicly. That's the impression I got, so yes, it is a scumtell for me. You ignore the lynch results on David and the concept of safe claims (yes, Sam could very well be the safe claim for a CR) when you protest over much. You should have just accepted that simply claiming Sam doesn't clear you. As I said, I think you just had difficulty getting around the fact that your mod provided safe claim was being called into question.
Well, duh. Of course beach bum would have been a better claim, especally since I claimed after Cicero said that he expected one of the "major characters" in the movie to be scum. If I was scum, I would have claimed beach bum, but I'm a good guy, so I'm stuck telling the truth.Mariyta wrote: *Looking at the claim list, the least believable claim is Sam Emerson. Yos claimed early enough to be afraid to take one of the possible remaining power roles and he was afraid of being counterclaimed. Sam is one of the "good guys" and I get the impression Yos was relying on that. A better safe claim would have been beach bum
Yes. Because I think MoS is the CR and Crub is a likely recruit. I can't go CR hunting if I'm not going to get the lynch on my prime candidate, am I?cicero wrote:Dasq, roll your eyes all you want. Your last two moves have been weird. The first was let's lynch the unlynchable. Followed by Let's lynch Crub who most people see as a more likely recruit than a mastermind. I can see people's eyebrows being raised even if I don't fully agree with them.
Yes. Because I think MoS is the CR and Crub is a likely recruit. I can't go CR hunting if I'm not going to get the lynch on my prime candidate, am I?cicero wrote:Dasq, roll your eyes all you want. Your last two moves have been weird. The first was let's lynch the unlynchable. Followed by Let's lynch Crub who most people see as a more likely recruit than a mastermind. I can see people's eyebrows being raised even if I don't fully agree with them.
