~laundry~ FIN

[Desperado]

No it's the other two people I was targeting dying and being left with you.

[Desperado]

Your voting patterns have always been scummy but I thought you were town over Zach and maria but they are both dead now.

[drealmerz7]

btw my thinking is better if I'm high

I learned to learn high and think high (half of highschool, all of college, I was stoned all of the time, and did well and am smart) and I'm so "with it" when I'm high, it's pretty amazing

[drealmerz7]

Your voting patterns have always been scummy but I thought you were town over Zach and maria but they are both dead now.

well if you're town then your reads are as bad as my voting "patterns" which aren't patters at all just how the votes have gone and I can't help I've blown chunks this game

[drealmerz7]

I'll blame EP if my reads are so horrible this game

that will be 2 games he's modded that I've been in where I just utterly suck

[Desperado]

Unvote

Pine I need you to be a little more explicit about your behavior re: Menno.

[Andrius]

Ya you're right this conversation is stupid.

What do you two think about Pines Menno thing today?

I dont like it.
I really dont.

[Andrius]

Like, Im pretty open about my thoughts; Id stake the game on Desp and Pine being town if there's one scum left.

If there are two its a game changer.
Doubt it though.

[drealmerz7]

desperado, why don't you want andrius dead if he's resolved to not gamesolve all of today and gives up for dead since the start of the Day?

[Desperado]

Because he's town....

[Desperado]

I would stake the entire game on Pine being town for his WE DID IT AGAIN ANDRIUS TOWN/TOWN JUST LIKE STRAHD LETS HYDRA SOMETIME post.
Pine, if you're actually scum this game on the incredible off-chance, you and I are going to share some angry words postgame away from prying eyes.

Desperado's a townread based on his play but I'd choose Pine over him in a heartbeat in LyLo.
His play has been solid. The Miller/Commuter deal is still a bit much but whatever. The only scenario I lynch him in LyLo is against Pine, so.

dreal can go either way.
I am biased against him because he has been so passive this game.
Maybe its because of his boredom/distance from the game or something. Its like, his entire posting on this page basically sums up my experience with him this game. And the HAS ANDRIUS SAID ANYTHING TOWN TODAY is just bad but whatever.

And then there's Menno.
Bussing Creature D1 is totally within his repertoire as scum.
And that's really all I can remember him doing all game.
I mean, I wouldn't put it past him to skate on that as scum.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he's town having done his ONE THING all game which was the Creature push and then just sitting here going THIS GAME like he did on this page.
Idk. Menno has this air of I DONT HAVE A CARE IN THE WORLD this game which is complicating but w/e.

I really don't know what else I can say to help you all, largely since dreal isn't moved by anything I say because I don't do cases and Menno doesn't demonstrate a lick of caring.


If this DOES happen to be a 12:5 and this is a 3:2 LyLo then we're screwed anyway so.
Too bad the whole WE PLAYED WELL EARLY ON burns like this but, hey, we all share a part of this loss and I own mine. The whole 800+ posts was definitely too many, my earlygame was more whimsical than actually trying to do anything, I had a number of badly-defended reads (Nos was actually scum though; Nacho was actually scum; Creature I thought was town for awhile so there's that). I mean, the best part of this game was definitely the WINE NIGHTS with people like Sly (RIP) and Pine but that was more product of your charming personalities than the merits of this own game, so. Idk. Blunt honesty time with Andrius at 11pm on Fat Tuesday. I pushed Frogger too hard D1, assuming that he was more resilient than that since he seemed like he could dish it and take it but apparently not. I own the fact that I pressured him super hard and wish it didn't end in the Cop claim because that hurt us hard. That was on us. My read on Maria was spot-on which is small comfort. I said some words to EP after her lynch that basically summed up my thoughts but those aren't important anymore.


Spare the others.
I am ready.

This isn't game solving to you????

[drealmerz7]

no it's a bunch of fluff to pre-empt his woe is me AtE spiel he's been on

[drealmerz7]

I mean, I understand why one might think it is game-solving

but it doesn't seem to be it at all to me - they're a bunch of empty and safe thoughts that don't give us anything

[Pine]

@ Pine who else is even saying they want to lynch Menno??? I do not understand your stance on him today at all

He seems to me to be the lowest-hanging fruit. I'm hardly the only one who wanted to lynch him yesterday. Dunno. Maybe it's just my particularly paranoid perspective right now.

Both of them bussing the shit out of all 3 of their teammates would be some next level shit, especially considering Nos didn't happen until after my VCA. Pine was all over Dreal that day iirc

Are you fucking kidding me. I was the first voice against Nos.

So.... Pine/Mcmenno???????

what is this question

I'm still stuck on the possibility of 5 scum and if that's the case it's pine and Mcmenno I think

Not possible in a 17-player. Even if they did have five members, they'd all be goons, and they weren't.

Uggggh, I so want to suspect Desp for the weird scummy logic he's using, but that doesn't make sense at this stage from scum. Town backed into a corner does that crap, scum either tries to tunnel in on objective-based mislynching or will lynch anything that moves. Only Town does this paranoid moonlogic crap.

Unvote

Pine I need you to be a little more explicit about your behavior re: Menno.

I've been quite transparent. I had been TRing McMenno all game, and then in the post-Zach paranoia I started re-evaluating all of my TRs. McMenno has been a fucking useless lump all game, and I don't know his meta on bussing, so I got paranoid about him. I've been trying to figure out why I haven't been killed, and it has to be because my reads aren't threatening. But now I'm trying to settle my paranoia, firmed up my TR on Andy, and I'm not seeing McMenno bussing his entire team. See above regarding you. Brings me back to Drealmerz.

[Pine]

And guys.

Shut the fuck up about me.

I don't bus.

Ever.

Fucking ever.

It's like, the only thing I bothered to put into my wiki.

Imagine I were scum, and I didn't bus this game. The game would have been over like three days ago.

[drealmerz7]

pine do you have quick access to your claim post you could share?

I've been not keeping notes ):

[Pine]

My claim has been spread across many posts.

I am EP's Sleep Schedule, Hated 2-shot Bomb.

[Pine]

Uh, and that's something else we need to be careful about. The Hated mod doesn't apply in LYLO, but it would nail me today with only two votes.

[drealmerz7]

I'm specifically looking for where you first suggestion or say whatever it was that came first of your bombing ability

[Pine]

I dropped a metric shit-ton of hints all through the game, starting from my first posts. I'll ISO-trawl myself for you, but I haven't been coy. I full-claimed in the Zach lynch twilight when I thought the game was over, didn't mention the word 'bomb' before that because I was trying to bait the kill and take one of them with me.

[Pine]

One of you, sorry.

[drealmerz7]

to be out with it:

I'm looking for reactions to people becoming aware of your ability

perhaps even something as lucky as a blatant switch on their read on you out of fear of you killing them, but likely some more subtle reactions I can gauge a tone-read from at this point

[Desperado]

So why would scum kill you after claiming bomb again?

[drealmerz7]

that's not what he said he was doing...

but ummm, pine, I don't see you trying to bait any kill ever

[drealmerz7]

and if you're a bomb you haven't been playing like one at all