Open 674: Duck Duck Goose [Game Over]

[havingfitz]

BV...are you a known alt?

[BlackVoid]

No, I'm not an alt.

[havingfitz]

No, I'm not an alt.

My bad. You said we'd played together and I didn't recall. I see you were nightkilled shortly after I replaced into our lone common game.

[BlackVoid]

Yeah, I read through a bunch of your games after you replaced in to compare how your town replace in looked like as opposed to your scum replace in.

[Hawk]

uggggghhhh I've only skimmed what Ive missed from yesterday but I'll catch up here in a second. I think Hapa is still better than a no lynch but I'm feeling conflicted because BV is making good points about Aubrey, and to be honest it feels like everybody is just kinda blindly saying well Hapa looks scummy without giving their own reasons or pushing his commentary. I'll have to go back and look but I mostly remember counter cases to Hapa being "Your cointer case is weak, or your reasoning is scummy" not you are scummy because blah.

BV let me catch up.

[havingfitz]

VOTE: Aubrey

Let's see if this goes anywhere.

Aside from a few hours this afternoon I'll be around to move if necessary.

[cassielle]

if aubrey flips green im pushing the bv=scum train from station to station yelling TOOT TOOT ALL ABOARD

[outoforder]

i expect a wall of an apology after all of the walls I had to read from you when I flip green.

Anything I say is just going to get twisted to meet your scum ideals.

You expect an apology from scum when they mislynch you? That sounds weird for sure.

[outoforder]

Lets lynch the omgusfitz!
Because he's gonna flip scum. Not sold on aubrey being mafia. Kop could be a good alternative to lynch. I dont wanna lynch hapa because i dont really think he is mafia and when he is not mafia his reads are good.

[outoforder]

I have also decided that cassielle is town and i wont be reading any of her posts because they make literally zero sense.

[outoforder]

If anyone wants some good laughs go read why havingfitz thinks creature is mafia. "All over the place" and "doesnt interact well eith others" != mafia. In fact its way more often the other way around. There is absolutely zero reason to think someone is mafia for that. In fact i dont understand any of his reads. All his scumreads are basically "i dont like how the person posts" which never makes anyone scum.

[Aubrey]

i expect a wall of an apology after all of the walls I had to read from you when I flip green.

Anything I say is just going to get twisted to meet your scum ideals.

You expect an apology from scum when they mislynch you? That sounds weird for sure.

I think he is just head-up-his-buttocks town. Like seriously. If Happa is town, why bother pushing other wagons so hard? If Happa is scum, why be so desperate to push any other wagon possible? 1. is just making life harder on yourself as scum when everyone wants the guy dead basically. 2. Trying to push another wagon against your scum buddies THIS desperately would spell likely spell disaster for him should Hapa flip.

[Aubrey]

uggggghhhh I've only skimmed what Ive missed from yesterday but I'll catch up here in a second. I think Hapa is still better than a no lynch but I'm feeling conflicted because BV is making good points about Aubrey, and to be honest it feels like everybody is just kinda blindly saying well Hapa looks scummy without giving their own reasons or pushing his commentary. I'll have to go back and look but I mostly remember counter cases to Hapa being "Your cointer case is weak, or your reasoning is scummy" not you are scummy because blah.

BV let me catch up.

[BlackVoid]

Fitz is pretty town for that discussion and vote on Aubrey when he could have easily just laid low and not said anything.

For Hawk and outoforder: Here's what I mean regarding Aubrey not actually being interested in the outcome of the day. Consider when I replaced in and posted my thoughts as I was catching up, all Aubrey did was post 856. Look at that post - there's nothing in it that's game advancing content in a "who should we lynch?" way. It's just stuff he's arguing with people with no real drive forward. Then right after I post a massive list of reads and case on Hap and everyone jumps onto the Rels wagon, Aubrey posts 878 talking about Creature's daytalk comment. See what happens right after I post my 859. Cassielle, Hawk, and KidAmn react to it. Aubrey's post is just so irrevelant to what's happening in the thread and it feels like he's stalling to let others take positions before he commits to anything. Then there's 919. The is before I pushed the heck out of him where he still trying to buddy me and get on my good side where he comments on "people" giving me shit and agrees with my theory argument with Cass and Hawk. Never says a thing about Cass or Hawk's alignments. Doesn't even say he wants to lynch Hap. Just a mafia theory argument that has nothing to do with alignments. Then there's 924 where after I prod him, he reluctantly takes waffly stances on both Hap and Rels and votes Hap. Here's what he says regarding Cass and Hawk but he never mentions them by name:

I'm not in support of a Rels lynch, over a Hapa lynch, if the reasoning is mostly based on association with a scum!Hapa (which is what it seems to be). Those who think otherwise worry me. Especially when they keep Hapa open to lynch, but highly prefer and support the Rels lynch on association with Hapa.

He expresses concerns that vague nameless people want Rels as an associative lynch. But when I ask him for a readslist which he posts after much prodding, these concerns never materealize anywhere in that list. See 950. That's a scum reasonable-sounding readslist. Not a town one where he's actually considering events and factoring them into his reads. His earlier concerns show up nowhere in the list.

[havingfitz]

I have also decided that cassielle is town and i wont be reading any of her posts because they make literally zero sense.

I suspect cass and still think this post is scummy.

You have ignored repeated questions by me to you...I have seen no case by you on me...and you have a tendency to ad-hom players and/or disparage their ability.

OoO wagon would work as well.

[hapahauli]

While this game has been mostly infuriating, I'd prefer not to get kicked out. Lynch me if you must. Going to catch up briefly.

I'll say exactly one thing and only one thing in my defense: townies who are suspicious of me should be very skeptical about the lack of resistance. To believe I'm mafia, you have to accept that literally everyone (including my "scumbuddies") were comfortable lynching me from the second they posted.

I'll be reading the last few pages and deciding on who I want dead. Ask away.

[BlackVoid]

@Hap, just look over my post right above yours and skim along for my case on Aubrey.

[doomfeathers]

I have not left. I have been distracted for a few days. I aim to catch up today.

[BlackVoid]

1101 has my updated thoughts as well. @Hap.

[hapahauli]

Well on the bright side BV, that doesn't look like the scum-game I played with you at all.

[outoforder]

I'd like to hear what Aubrey has to say about BV's case.

[Aubrey]

Good lord this game leads a man to drink heavily and it's only 9:39 in the morning. I'm done for today. Lynch me. Straight up don't give a shit anymore.

pre-edit: it's likely a fucking town with his head up his arse.

[outoforder]

Aldo i am sorry but if something is dumb or bad i will call it dumb or bad.

For example saying we should lynch someone because we cant lynch anyone else 24h before the deadline is dumb and bad.

[hapahauli]

Good lord this game leads a man to drink heavily and it's only 9:39 in the morning. I'm done for today. Lynch me. Straight up don't give a shit anymore.

pre-edit: it's likely a fucking town with his head up his arse.

Welcome to my life.

[hapahauli]

I've been putting up with this shit for almost 2 weeks. You've barely lasted 2 hours.