Open 674: Duck Duck Goose [Game Over]

[Aubrey]

If that is all it takes to be scumread by ya'll then this will be an interesting game. How much experience do the two of you have out of curiosity?

[Rels]

If that is all it takes to be scumread by ya'll then this will be an interesting game. How much experience do the two of you have out of curiosity?

Started playing something like 1 year and a half ago, link to all my games: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Rels
OOO and Hapa have way more experience than me
I don't understand your mindset. Yes if someone does something scummy I consider him more likely to be scum than before he did that. If his replacement does something townier my read will change.

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~130 games.

[Aubrey]

My mindset is easy to understand. I can see a world where a town Fred missed a post. The fact you all don't consider that baffles me. I miss, forget, or misunderstand posts all the time. If he wanted to seem like relevant scum why not just regurgate things that are already being said vs. looking back into the game for something useless to talk about? He understands his head isn't in the best place and leaves. I'm not getting any AI vibes from it.

At least you recognize that it is by no means a slam dunk.

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I am not not considering that. I work on probabilities and when two posts are next to each other i would say there is over 50% chance you don't miss it (unless you don't really care for some reason). That's what i find contradicting in his behavior, no matter his mental mindset. Usually people who don't care are mafia. I don't know why he replaced out and i don't know if he was in the same mindset back then.

But you are right, ofc i will give his replacement a chance. We have something like 9 days left in the day phase, i am not gonna call any case slam dumk lol. Talking about him won't really get us anywhere rn, and i was just telling where i stand atm. Everyone else than those three people look town to me anyways so in case i have missed something - please do tell and pressure them (if you think someone else is mafia). I don't, so i am going to wait until my scumreads do something and what the replacement does.

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Btw that was an intended double negative.

[Rels]

My mindset is easy to understand. I can see a world where a town Fred missed a post. The fact you all don't consider that baffles me. I miss, forget, or misunderstand posts all the time. If he wanted to seem like relevant scum why not just regurgate things that are already being said vs. looking back into the game for something useless to talk about? He understands his head isn't in the best place and leaves. I'm not getting any AI vibes from it.

At least you recognize that it is by no means a slam dunk.

Yeah it's not 100% sure. D1 lynch are almost never 100% anyway. But I disagree that it's NAI. The easiest thing to do for scum is precisely to look for new things to talk about, to appear to be active; and asking useless questions are a way to do that.
I already explained why I think the rest is AI: the fact that he didn't see a post that was JUST below the one he was wondering about could show that he had no intention to solve the game with that question; and leaving after being pressured is more a scum thing than a town thing.

[Rels]

And Hapa is still the best lynch. Just because we are not talking about him doesn't erase that.

[Rels]

OOO why is Kop town ?

[Aubrey]

Pretty sure we are going to be coming at this game on completely different viewpoints.

[Rels]

Pretty sure we are going to be coming at this game on completely different viewpoints.

Well that's totally fine.

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OOO why is Kop town ?

Read my filter and you'll find out.

[Aubrey]

Because he townreads me for playing differently than I played previously as scum. still in disagreement.

[Rels]

OOO why is Kop town ?

Read my filter and you'll find out.

meh. Very meh. He's sitting aside. He's not pressuring doom after his vote on him. His scumread on Moongin is pretty vague, dunno why you townread him for that.

[Rels]

And LOL at "I'm never gonna try to convince everyone anymore" . Sure rayn, sure. ^^

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Actually there is one thing that bothers me about Kop now that i read his filter again.

Kop do you want to clarify the following statement you gave me at early on in the game:

There are no certainties of who is scum unless we have guilty or a scum claim. Votes on a wagon of someone you suspect gets far more answers than just sitting on your hands until you find someone who's willing, to put there hands up and say "hey I'm scum." Or even starting up a voting process on one of your top suspects.

Now if you believe what you originally wrote in the quote above, how come is it so that your vote hasn't EVER been on anyone in this game except for RVS?

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And Hapa is still the best lynch. Just because we are not talking about him doesn't erase that.

I agree with this again.
In fact i agree with it this much:
VOTE: Hapahauli

[MooginSoosy]

Moogin are you gonna give your read on Rels especially since Rels came in with some very nice aggressive scumhunting here? Can you give a read on Hapa as well while your at it since you said you didn't understand why people thought Hapa was scummy?

Well now I think rels is more town, no need to phrase it in the way you did. Looking from before the weekend and after the weekend makes a huge difference for rels. Like no I'm not going to think he's 100% but that was nice explanation for hapa for me.

The hardest thing to wrap my head around for hapa is the fact that they're looking to past games which I cannot look at? So no I still don't see scum hapa but I also don't see town hapa.

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It's funny since i told you the exact same thing about hapa like 5 days ago...

[Rels]

mod...I will be v/LA from now until Tuesday morning.

Back. Will catch up asap.

Dat hype

Apparently I don't know what ASAP means

[MooginSoosy]

It's funny since i told you the exact same thing about hapa like 5 days ago...

Yea, but you're one person. Having two people confirm the difference is better than one. I'll still have to see what hapa is like here when he comes back.

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Apparently I don't know what ASAP means

If a 48h game it means at most something like 3 hours, maybe in this game it's 24 hrs?

I also just learned quotes are super annoying here.

[Rels]

Apparently I don't know what ASAP means

If a 48h game it means at most something like 3 hours, maybe in this game it's 24 hrs?

I also just learned quotes are super annoying here.

haha p:
Dunno, on one hand it's annoying that quotes don't auto-hide. On the other hand having the link to the quoted post is pretty awesome p:

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IT's super annoying if i wanna cut off the rest of the quotes other than the last one because i have no idea where the first quote tag ends.

[hapahauli]

Getting back into the swing of things. Need a few hours to catch up.