~laundry~ FIN

[drealmerz7]

wow

is that how you've convoluted in your mind?

scum!!!

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Tammy vs Andrius is like 100% town on town with a third person, scum (nacho), trying to cool it down for towncred and buddying points.

[drealmerz7]

I see it more likely that scum-nacho was trying to get TR by town-tammy by appearing to mediate a TvT but in actuality he was the way he was because he was wary of it looking like what it really was, him trying to diffuse her persistence on his scum-buddy

[Desperado]

@ dreal your VCA is shit

[drealmerz7]

I miss tammy
I was looking forward to trying to have a game with her again, damnit, you scumbags

[Desperado]

ohya mcmenno is a good lynch at this point too

no

no he isnt

that died when nacho flipped scum

[drealmerz7]

@ dreal your VCA is shit

more accurately my explanation of my VCA is shit - it's hard for me to explain how I'm seeing what I'm seeing
I'm not always right (who is?), but my VCA is actually pretty good with frequency

mystic I was decent, I mean zito was obvi-scum, but, the VCA of infinity's wagon vs. my CW solidified that and exposed kagami and I was right on with it

[Desperado]

like the most important thing there is glossed over and devalued as to try to not draw attention or ACTUAL meaningful memories from:

you fought with Tammy - like a scumfuck from hell that made it obvious that either your or slysly were scum (or tammy maybe but that wasn't likely) - slysly is flipped town, you should be the next obvious lynch

so just so i'm clear about this

your d1 and d2 play was admittedly garbage because you arent good in that setting

but you are still clinging to a d1 read?

whatsupwiththat.gif

[drealmerz7]

and I have numerous other instances that have my confidence in that ability pretty good - again, the issue is just explaining it to others

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Honestly, using myself as example, I'm not confident at all in my scumgame. So if I had nacho as a buddy I would surely not try to buss him early game, seeing as he's both an enjoyable player to play with and has a fairly strong game. So for someone to buss nacho super early means they're either confident in their scumgame, or aren't too invested (fun-wise) in whether he's alive or dead. The only one who probably fits that is Pine, which is why I said he might have been doing cross-bussing earlier.

But anyway the whole point of this is to say that I really don't think mcmenno went for a buss on nacho. I can see Creature, but I really doubt he would then go on Nacho so early on.

[Desperado]

ok well everything you said in your VCA of pine was not good

being voted by scum...who cares

not being on a town wagon...not scummy.

being on an alternative wagon that he hopes to push in the future...is how a townie handles a townread being wagoned.

[drealmerz7]

like the most important thing there is glossed over and devalued as to try to not draw attention or ACTUAL meaningful memories from:

you fought with Tammy - like a scumfuck from hell that made it obvious that either your or slysly were scum (or tammy maybe but that wasn't likely) - slysly is flipped town, you should be the next obvious lynch

so just so i'm clear about this

your d1 and d2 play was admittedly garbage because you arent good in that setting

but you are still clinging to a d1 read?

whatsupwiththat.gif

no - let me try and give the full picture for better understanding:

My D1 and D2 play, if I try to participate a lot, often enough ends up being more detrimental than beneficial to town. This I would consider "not good play." It doesn't happen every game in D1 D2, but, I can (now, usually) tell if it is going to, at least beyond a point (it varies from game to game, but, in general, after about 7 days into D1+D2, I just start to lose coherence, not because I can't keep track, but because there's simply just too much on the table, it's a clutter, whereas before that point the clutter is easier to sort - it's pretty basic) not be good if I keep participating to the degree I'm inclined to.

while my D1+D2 play here (and D3 even because there wasn't much to it) wasn't great play, it was better for town than the alternative - I can definitely feel that me "sitting back" and observing more is better at this point for my analyzing the game than having been "in it". Yes, I understand how the game works. I know it makes it harder for others to read me and my associations. Too bad, because it's actually better anyway, and you don't need to have a fucking solid read on every single player by D2. In fact, if you do, you're deluding yourself. I was pro-town in removing myself from so much scrutiny, and I know this from my experience.

SO, no, that doesn't make my early evaluations bad, and I'd never "cling to a read" (well, not anymore, I've broken from that from some horrible tunneling instances that I learned the hard way from.) The read has built, been re-enforced, and is still a comfotrable read. It's not a read based solely on early play disregarding everything that has come since. I mean, I know you don't hold my ability to play high at all, but, c'mon...I'm not that bad at least!

you do notice I was TRing pine early game and now I'm not?

[Errantparabola]

Votecount 4.1

I'm sick today.
Desperado (and everyone else): It might be nice to spoiler large quote walls of votecounts or otherwise?

Nosferatu

(4): Desperado, Ser Arthur Dayne, Pine, Andrius

Andrius

(1): drealmerz7

Desperado

(1): gerryoat

drealmerz7

(1): Nosferatu

Pine

(1): Zachstralkita

Not Voting

(3): MariaR, Firebringer, McMenno

11 players, 6 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-03-02 18:20:00)

[drealmerz7]

way to kill the thread, EP!

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: pine

[Pine]

I miss tammy
I was looking forward to trying to have a game with her again, damnit, you scumbags

What the fuck is this shit.

Forget my cold feet on Drealmerz.

[drealmerz7]

Truth

[MariaR]

VOTE: Nos
I say go for Andy if this is wrong but hey I'm 0/2

[Errantparabola]

way to kill the thread, EP!

wow yall suck

mod replace me

[MariaR]

way to kill the thread, EP!

wow yall suck

mod replace me

Thank god finally

[Desperado]

VOTE: pine

so...did you read my VCA posts? Do you have any fucking thoughts on them?

I'm the only person in the entire world who gives a shit what you have to say right now. Take the opportunity or go sit in a corner while we try to solve the game.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

VOTE: Nos
I say go for Andy if this is wrong but hey I'm 0/2

The pieces are almost all in place for Nos.

[gerryoat]

My lynch preferences in order:

Gerry
Nos
Dreamz
Mcmenno
Zach

I wouldn't put it past Nacho to have been coaching Gerry day 1, esp with the way their interaction went down.

me needing coaching LMFAO. sorry i called both mafia and am actually town. maybe one day you'll do it too PRODIGY

[Desperado]

@ EP: I tried to but you had a spoiler somewhere in your VCs and I couldn't be fucked to find out where it was.

[Desperado]

Nos is L-1 btw