Mini 545 - The Final Stand Mafia - Dramatic Finish!

[Khelvaster]

oops--I accidentally deleted the role PM I got, so I didn't know I was in this game.

/in

[death_omen]

First Vote Count - Day 1

Khelvaster - 2 (RetroDucts, Tarhalindur)
yeahthatguy224 - 1 (Mizzy)
TheJiveMachine - 1 (TheJiveMachine)
Glork - 1 (yeahthatguy224)
Sangy - 1 (Glork)
OhGodMyLife - 1 (Trebis)
Trebis - 1 (OhGodMyLife)

Not Voting: Sangy, Death's Door, shaka!!, Khelvaster

With 12 Alive it takes 7 to Lynch

Deadline Status:

30th Jan 2008 Noon (GMT + 12)

[Khelvaster]

Vote: Khelvaster

for posting on site today but failing to confirm.

Vote: Tarhalindur

for not realizing I accidentally deleted my role PM.

[shaka!!]

vote: Khelvaster

for shits and giggles.

[TheJiveMachine]

DERP BANDWAGON

DERP DERP DERP

These are my thoughts on RetroDucts and shaka

[Sangy]

Vote: TheJiveMachine

He might be jivin', but I ain't feelin' it.

[RetroDucts]

DERP BANDWAGON

DERP DERP DERP

These are my thoughts on RetroDucts and shaka

Is there something about Khelvaster having 3 votes on him that worries you?

[Mizzy]

DERP BANDWAGON

DERP DERP DERP

These are my thoughts on RetroDucts and shaka

Is there something about Khelvaster having 3 votes on him that worries you?

You gotta admit, a wagon now is a bit...well...fast?

[Trebis]

You gotta admit, a wagon now is a bit...well...fast?

It is a wagon, but not a very strong one. It still takes 7 to lynch. Also, sometimes people will create a weak wagon just to get conversation started.

Also: Someone's going to say this is a scummy question to ask, but are we supposed to know how many mafia there are? What about other roles? By not mentioning them should I assume they don't exist, or is it just a mystery?

[RetroDucts]

Mizzy, the sooner we're out of the random stage, the better, imo. Khelvaster's late entrance seemed a good enough place to start. And like Trebis said, with 7 to lynch, 3's not too much of a concern.

Jive, I'm actually curious about how shaka's vote, which was apparently 'for shits and giggles', came across to you as bandwagoning.

[Mizzy]

Mizzy, the sooner we're out of the random stage, the better, imo. Khelvaster's late entrance seemed a good enough place to start. And like Trebis said, with 7 to lynch, 3's not too much of a concern.

Jive, I'm actually curious about how shaka's vote, which was apparently 'for shits and giggles', came across to you as bandwagoning.

True, true. It's just that wagons skurr me. When they're all, you know, fast and stuff.

As for how many mafia are in here, it's usually 25%, and it's not scummy to ask because townies kinda need to keep in mind how many scum need to die for a win and to keep track of how many are around in general.

[Khelvaster]

Before anyone makes fun of me, let me say this. A vote putting me at -4 is really nothing to be concerned of. I even think Shaka is town because of this. The WIFOM is quite apparent, but I really don't think scum would go do anything so revealing so soon.

[shaka!!]

I thought it was rather apparent that my vote was a pressure vote.

[Khelvaster]

I thought it was rather apparent that my vote was a pressure vote.

On second thought,

Vote: Shaka

for blatant rolefishing.

[RetroDucts]

Rolefishing?

[TheJiveMachine]

I don't see the role fishing.

But shaka, first you say shits and giggles, now it was a pressure vote? What reason do you have to pressure Khel, anyways? By the time of your vote he had shown up and explained his absence.

[shaka!!]

I don't see the role fishing.

But shaka, first you say shits and giggles, now it was a pressure vote? What reason do you have to pressure Khel, anyways? By the time of your vote he had shown up and explained his absence.

Well if I vote someone and tell them straight away it's a pressure vote it's not gonna pressure any one much. I pressure is a good way to get conversation going. It seems to have worked.

[RetroDucts]

But you thought it was 'rather apparent' anyway, which means to me that, by your own logic, it couldn't have pressured Khelvaster (or anyone) too much at all.

A vote putting me at -4 is really nothing to be concerned of. I even think Shaka is town because of this. The WIFOM is quite apparent, but I really don't think scum would go do anything so revealing so soon.

Why would it be revealing if, as you say, an L-4 vote is nothing to be concerned of?

[shaka!!]

But you thought it was 'rather apparent' anyway, which means to me that, by your own logic, it couldn't have pressured Khelvaster (or anyone) too much at all.

Whether it pressured him or not it got conversation going, which was the votes ultimate goal.

In which case I can

unvote:

[yeahthatguy224]

Since this is so early in the game, I'm sure no one's foolish enough to finish off someone without enough backup from the rest of the community.

On a side note, Khel, care to explain your reasoning behind the role fishing vote, since no one else noticed it.

[Mizzy]

On a side note, Khel, care to explain your reasoning behind the role fishing vote, since no one else noticed it.

Ditto, please...it totally flew by me...I didn't notice such a thing.

[Trebis]

I don't see the rolefishing either. Explain please.

[Glork]

I don't get the rolefishing either.

Unvote, Vote: Khelvaster

[Mizzy]

Unvote

since random votes don't seem to be doing much now.

[Glork]

Does a nonvote seem to be doing much right now?