Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Elbirn]

Notice are you still here

Please engage me

Notice me, senpai-NoticeMeSenpai

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 1.30

Yuri (9):

Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Creature

beeboy (3):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri

Sondam (1):

Drixx

Akane and Nebby (1):

Albert B. Rampage

Vecna (1):

Caesar Wills It

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

Fro99er (1):

Leonshade

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Elbirn

Not Voting (3):

ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Elbirn]

Screw you then I'm going to bed *dies*

[The DEO]

Hey Elbrin,

Notice is on my compromise lynch but Math doesn't want them roped. I'm open to my interpretation of Notice being wrong. If it moves the game forward, I'd do it. If I'm wrong on Yuri, I'm there like a heartbeat. Vecna's town.

Nero I get but people who are skilled that have bass ackwards reads and don't care to pressure lurkers wind up in my willing to lynch pile.

Basically if my townreads I'd be sure wouldn't fall against each other due to word vomit paranoia, I'd be thrilled. Yet Vecna doesn't TR Drixx for starters. A and N is targeted by scum.

~Titus

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh no not 100 pages

[Albert B. Rampage]

My personal number 1 lynch is ABR.

~Titus

You can fuck right off LOL

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your personal vendetta against me is quite sad. There hasn't been one game where you didn't try to lynch me right off the bat on Day 1.

[Akane and Nebby]

Oh lookie, an ABR.
ABR have time to chat?

-Nebby

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: The DEO

Eat this vote, scumbag!

[The DEO]

Hi. I see your whining about being caught.

You going to actually contribute yet? You know, say who is town, push scum. Explain your contradiction. Or are you just going to claim big bad Titus?

~Titus

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sad!

[Akane and Nebby]

Sad!

I see you...

-Nebby

[The DEO]

Yup, ok, I left the door open for you to tell me just how bad I was and to set the town straight on reads. You got nothing more than crying.

We're done here.

We're lynching ABR tomorrow.

~Titus

[The DEO]

ABR is salty Town over Shadowrun. Leave him alone. If I remember right he said if I was ever townread I would be a policy for him.
ABR do you have a question for me or just want to tunnel?

~~Math

No we aren't.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Math why do you think ABR is town here?

[The DEO]

Math, talk to me in our hydra but you excusing shitty play because you think you have the game solved has to stop yesterday.

~Titus

[Akane and Nebby]

BaeReed why do you think ABR is scum here?

-Nebby

[The DEO]

It isn't because I have five other scumreads. ABR is genuinely Town for following through on his policy lynch threat and not posting anything remotely useful. He did the same in Shadowrun. Annoying doesn't mean scum. It is shitty play. Doesn't mean scum. From a newb or anyone besides Nero or ABR it would.

~~Math

[NoticeMeSenpai]

@Alisae Not townreading him isn't the same as scumreading him. I don't have a read on him. His play is different from what I've seen from him so far (and I don't think I could effectively meta him based off my current knowledge anyway) and I want to understand why Math is actually townreading him for it because I actually think it's different from Shadowrun. In Shadowrun he came in early pushing a scumread, and I haven't had that same feel here.

[The DEO]

That's a prebuilt justification for him to act in a proscum manner. You're giving him carte blanche to ignore the fact we are universally townread and do jack shit. That doesn't work. You don't help town. You die. If you cannot handle if someone is town, you shouldn't be in a game with them.

This sets aside that ABR shouldn't even be in this game because he agreed to not join any games I was in. *shrug*

If ABR cannot be protown, he dies. He can try to tell it as baggage/drama/aliens hijacking his brain. It doesn't matter. Do not EVER make excuses for a scumread publicly.

~Titus

[NoticeMeSenpai]

It isn't because I have five other scumreads. ABR is genuinely Town for following through on his policy lynch threat and not posting anything remotely useful. He did the same in Shadowrun. Annoying doesn't mean scum. It is shitty play. Doesn't mean scum. From a newb or anyone besides Nero or ABR it would.

~~Math

I think if ABR were going to push a policy lynch on you he would have done that as his first vote, though, and not have wasted time with it.

[Leonshade]

I'm never going to catch up at this rate, someone tell me why I should vote Yuri.

[The DEO]

I am not. ABR can be protown. I just realize he is different than me.
He finds things he believes, says quirky one liners about it, then pushes it until he either sees A) they are Town or B) lynches and gets a flip.
He did the exact same with D&D.
ABR can and will be protown and as much as he scumreads us then it is still protown so others understand we are Town. I have no problems with him hunting is.

~~Math

[Akane and Nebby]

I'm never going to catch up at this rate, someone tell me why I should vote Yuri.

Frog why is Yuri scum?

1) When titus gets on Yuri about defending Vecna, Yuri goes "but frog did it too" (314) without even realizing I also defended drixx (256, 260, 264, 271) in the Vecna/Drixx thing. I took both sides at different time trying to sort shit out, but Yuri basically says why didn't you call out frog for defending Vecna, as a justification to why they did it. That's stuff scum does.

2) I'm only going to use the self-meta thing as a small point, but his reaction in 442 to when I went "SPIFFEH " in 437 seemed really worried

3) In 931 Yuri wants to placate Titus, and it appears he doesn't want to ruffle titus' feathers. It's super appeasing type stuff like scum not wanting to stand out. Yuri says in 940 that yes he is trying to placate Titus because Titus is probtown pushing them. However, later on in 1248 Yuri sorts Uzi as town and Yuri says he doesn't care about Uzi's push on him. It's a contradiction, so Yuri needs to explain why Titus push did matter but Uzi push didn't.

5) Yuri says they have issues with A+N in 952 and when pressed on what the issue is by A+N in 953 it turns out that it's the same prior issue from 941 and 943. Reading those two posts, we see it's because Yuri doesn't like A+N is pressing Sondam about whether Sondam thought titus slipped or contradicted herself. That's perfectly legitimate reason to pressure Sondam, to find out if they meant contradict or slip (or both, as it turns out). Because contradict and slip can have different meanings. It's a bullshit issue to have with A+N. (to read more about it, read my 1275 which explains it better than I just did here)

4) My 1245 shows exactly ZERO scumhunting of Yuri's. All of a sudden Yuri drops a vote 3 posts later in 1248 on A+N, with no explanation. Finally the explanation comes in 1268 and it's a weak and shallow read that looks like it's just there to appear like scumhunting from Yuri.

5) Yuri passes the buck on trying to read people on the Maxous wagon 1231 which I call out in 1264, and passes the buck again saying I should do the legwork in 1265. Why pass the buck back on to the person questioning you, which he did twice to two different people in those two posts.

So there you go spiff.

[The DEO]

I'm never going to catch up at this rate, someone tell me why I should vote Yuri.

We're a Day 0 cop and Yuri came back as a Barbarian Village.

Seriously, day is too long. Yuri is a buddy storm. 1387 that's the post.