Mini Normal 1873 (Game Over)

[Lexa]

@Titus, here are the snippets on Pep from my major catchup post where I went through the game up to the end of d1 and looked for scum tells. To this point Pep had contributed literally nothing of value beyond some jokey posts in RVS and no one seemed to care or even notice, this despite it still being early in the day, the majority of other players getting wagoned/pressured, and the karnos lynch wagon having yet to have formed.

Jesus how has pepchoninga gone unnoticed? 434 he says "this is my playing". He hasn't contributed anything and somehow isn't getting read or pressured!!! I have to imagine

someone

on the scum team would have noticed and pushed him by now. Moderate scum points given here.

IN POST EDIT: Upgraded to major scum points, popped my head into his iso and holy fuck someone vote his ass.

Confirmed my read on the above, the posts leading up to 444 are such obvious attempts to bus the top wagon in karnos and gain town points. And then immediately flip flops at 451 giving karnos a softball set up to deflect pressure away from him. Pep is top scum read at this point.

Based from posts 434 to 452 in Pep's iso

[Garmr]

The original reasoning was shit "saying he believed karnos yet changing his mind after a couple of hours." I didn't even see the fake guilty on lexa but this isn't even scummy it's just stupid.

[shannon]

Just checking in to say hi, if anyone has any Q's for me don't forget to ask them. Otherwise just letting Titus do her thing.

[Garmr]

My case on lq was a lot better and had merit even through I was wrong. Lq was furthering the scum win condition in my opinion and was better off dead. Alisae was just derp the case on him shit and at best newbie game quality. You can probably tell i'm bitter about things.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Ya know, I honestly do feel like Garmr's case on LQ was a town case. Mainly due to the fact that I was so easily able to see it and then push like no tomorrow on LQ.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Also, it taught me my town reads are town reads for a reason, I shouldn't have been as rash as I was

[Titus]

@Titus, here are the snippets on Pep from my major catchup post where I went through the game up to the end of d1 and looked for scum tells. To this point Pep had contributed literally nothing of value beyond some jokey posts in RVS and no one seemed to care or even notice, this despite it still being early in the day, the majority of other players getting wagoned/pressured, and the karnos lynch wagon having yet to have formed.

Jesus how has pepchoninga gone unnoticed? 434 he says "this is my playing". He hasn't contributed anything and somehow isn't getting read or pressured!!! I have to imagine

someone

on the scum team would have noticed and pushed him by now. Moderate scum points given here.

IN POST EDIT: Upgraded to major scum points, popped my head into his iso and holy fuck someone vote his ass.

Confirmed my read on the above, the posts leading up to 444 are such obvious attempts to bus the top wagon in karnos and gain town points. And then immediately flip flops at 451 giving karnos a softball set up to deflect pressure away from him. Pep is top scum read at this point.

Major hint that scum already have a mislynch in mind (or if you didn't know my slot's alignment) that I am scum or it's too early to determine lurkers
Based from posts 434 to 452 in Pep's iso

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Major hint that scum already have a mislynch in mind (or if you didn't know my slot's alignment) that I am scum or it's too early to determine lurkers

Where did this come from?

[Titus]

Major hint that scum already have a mislynch in mind (or if you didn't know my slot's alignment) that I am scum or it's too early to determine lurkers

Where did this come from?

On day 1, when scum don't care to pressure a lurker, it's because they do not need to.

My slot wasn't pressured for shit.

Scum did not need to.

[Lexa]

Intriguing. What was the vote count as of post 452?

<<< I would think 450 would be the vote count you are most looking for. >>>

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I'm being fucking stupid because I know scum slips come from town 90% of the time but could you reword it because it's bugging me seeing "that I am scum"

It just sounds really weird and makes me uncomfortable

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Intriguing. What was the vote count as of post 452?

I really wish there was a way we could have a moderator that basically page tops every page with a vote count and you could check that

<<< I know, right? The moderator sure does drop the ball on those VCs! We should get a better one. >>>

[Titus]

I'm being fucking stupid because I know scum slips come from town 90% of the time but could you reword it because it's bugging me seeing "that I am scum"

It just sounds really weird and makes me uncomfortable

No problem.

If scum don't pressure a lurker slot it's because either

a) Scum have a planned mislynch
b) It's a buddy
c) Scum don't need to (planned bus, town eating itself, etc)

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

It's not like one could go, oh look, 450 is divisible by 25 so it's a page top, my post i'm relating to is 2 posts under that. Let me ask an unnecessary question when I can go do the research myself and present a theory with what i have concluded instead of asking empty questions

[Lexa]

Fourteenth Votecount

:

karnos

- 4 (Garmr,

XnadrojX

,

BlueBloodedToffee

, TheRealGin-N-Tonic)[/color]

All Alone

- 3 (Lexa,

Alisae

,

LicketyQuickety

)

LicketyQuickety

- 2 (PranaDevil, shannon)

XnadrojX

- 1 (

karnos

)
Garmr - 1 (KTthecreeper)
PranaDevil - 1 (

All Alone

)

Not Voting - 1 (Pepchoninga)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

karnos

is at L-3.

Day 1's deadline is Friday, February 10th, @ 2:30 PM PST--(expired on 2017-02-10 14:30:00).

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• Lexa is V/LA through Tuesday, January 24th.
  
• KTthecreeper has requested replacement.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount (none)

₍₌₀₎

karnos

- 4 (Garmr,

XnadrojX

,

BlueBloodedToffee

, TheRealGin-N-Tonic)

⁽⁼⁰⁾

All Alone

- 3 (Lexa,

Alisae

,

LicketyQuickety

)

⁽⁼⁰⁾

LicketyQuickety

- 2 (PranaDevil, shannon)

₍₌₀₎

XnadrojX

- 1 (

karnos

)
Garmr - 1 (KTthecreeper)

⁽⁼⁰⁾

PranaDevil - 1 (

All Alone

)

₍₌₀₎

Not Voting - 1 (Pepchoninga)

Last votecount was post 425, page 18.

Spoiler: Player Vote History Day One

• shannon:
  XnadrojX
  ==>
  Alisae
  ==>
  LicketyQuickety
  
  
• BlueBloodedToffee

  :
  karnos
  
  
• nydushermain/TheRealGin-N-Tonic:
  Alisae
  |
  karnos
  ==>Pepchoninga==>
  karnos
  
  
• LicketyQuickety

  :
  Alisae
  ==>shannon==>
  All Alone
  
  
• Pepchoninga:
  
  
• Lexa:
  All Alone
  
  
• karnos

  :
  shannon==>nydushermain==>
  LicketyQuickety
  ==>>
  XnadrojX
  
  
• KTthecreeper:
  Garmr
  
• Alisae

  :
  nydushermain==>
  LicketyQuickety
  ==>
  XnadrojX
  ==>
  All Alone
  
  
• Garmr:
  Alisae
  ==>
  karnos
  
  
• XnadrojX

  :
  Alisae
  ==>
  karnos
  
  
• All Alone

  :
  nydushermain=>Unvote==>PranaDevil
  
• PranaDevil:
  Alisae
  -->
  LicketyQuickety

Spoiler: Players Who Have BEEN Voted D1

1. Alisae

   :
   6 - Garmr,
   LicketyQuickety
   , PranaDevil,
   XnadrojX
   , nydushermain, shannon
   
2. karnos

   :
   5 - Garmr,
   XnadrojX
   , TheRealGin-N-Tonic,
   BlueBloodedToffee
   , TheRealGin-N-Tonic
   
3. LicketyQuickety

   :
   4 -
   karnos
   ,
   Alisae
   , PranaDevil, shannon
   
4. nydushermain/TheRealGin-N-Tonic:
   3 -
   Alisae
   ,
   All Alone
   ,
   karnos
   
   
5. XnadrojX

   :
   3 - shannon,
   karnos
   ,
   Alisae
   
   
6. All Alone

   :
   3 - Lexa,
   Alisae
   ,
   LicketyQuickety
   
   
7. shannon:
   2 -
   karnos
   ,
   LicketyQuickety
   
   
8. Garmr:
   1 - KTthecreeper
   
9. Pepchoninga:
   1 - TheRealGin-N-Tonic
   
10. PranaDevil:
    1 -
    All Alone

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1

On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 02:28p,

Alisae

Voted

nydushermain

in post 28.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 02:32p,

Garmr

Voted

Alisae

in post 29.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 02:42p,

All Alone

Voted

nydushermain

in post 32.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 02:52p,

KTthecreeper

Voted

Garmr

in post 36.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 02:57p,

karnos

Voted

shannon

in post 38.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 03:19p,

LicketyQuickety

Voted

Alisae

in post 46.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 03:31p,

PranaDevil

voted

Alisae

in post 52.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 04:43p,

XnadrojX

Voted

Alisae

in post 67.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 05:57p,

shannon

Voted

XnadrojX

in post 69.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 07:13p,

Lexa

Voted

All Alone

in post 73.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 07:28p,

karnos

Voted

nydushermain

in post 75.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 07:48p,

LicketyQuickety

Voted

shannon

in post 80.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 09:08p,

karnos

Voted

LicketyQuickety

in post 99.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 09:09p,

Alisae

Voted

LicketyQuickety

in post 100.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 09:19p,

Garmr

Voted

karnos

in post 102.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 10:17p,

nydushermain

Voted

Alisae

in post 115.
On Fri, Jan 01/20/17 @ 10:23p,

XnadrojX

Voted

karnos

in post 120.
On Sat, Jan 01/21/17 @ 09:38a,

karnos

Unvoted

LicketyQuickety

, and Voted

XnadrojX

in post 188.
On Sat, Jan 01/21/17 @ 01:41p,

Alisae

Voted

XnadrojX

in post 210.
On Sat, Jan 01/21/17 @ 05:51p,

shannon

Voted

Alisae

in post 216.
On Sat, Jan 01/21/17 @ 10:54p,

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Voted

karnos

in post 245.
On Sun, Jan 01/22/17 @ 12:39a,

BlueBloodedToffee

Voted

karnos

in post 261.
On Sun, Jan 01/22/17 @ 04:10p,

PranaDevil

voted

LicketyQuickety

in post 279.
On Sun, Jan 01/22/17 @ 04:30p,

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Voted

Pepchoninga

in post 283.
On Sun, Jan 01/22/17 @ 04:37p,

All Alone

Unvoted

(

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

)

in post 285.
On Sun, Jan 01/22/17 @ 04:38p,

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Voted

karnos

in post 286.
On Sun, Jan 01/22/17 @ 04:39p,

Alisae

Voted

All Alone

in post 287.
On Mon, Jan 01/23/17 @ 01:21a,

shannon

Voted

LicketyQuickety

in post 367.
On Mon, Jan 01/23/17 @ 07:37a,

All Alone

Voted

PranaDevil

in post 400.
On Mon, Jan 01/23/17 @ 07:41a,

LicketyQuickety

Voted

All Alone

in post 401.

[Titus]

I was saying b is false but technically that's known only to me.

[Lexa]

It's not like one could go, oh look, 450 is divisible by 25 so it's a page top, my post i'm relating to is 2 posts under that. Let me ask an unnecessary question when I can go do the research myself and present a theory with what i have concluded instead of asking empty questions

Why not both?

[Titus]

Garmr, your thoughts on Devil and Shannon?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I'm being fucking stupid because I know scum slips come from town 90% of the time but could you reword it because it's bugging me seeing "that I am scum"

It just sounds really weird and makes me uncomfortable

No problem.

If scum don't pressure a lurker slot it's because either

a) Scum have a planned mislynch
b) It's a buddy
c) Scum don't need to (planned bus, town eating itself, etc)

This is true, lurkers are great for mid-late game lynches to eat up time to LyLo

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

So Lexa, what did you learn from having the vote counts?

[Titus]

So Lexa, what did you learn from having the vote counts?

Don't rush it.

[Lexa]

Based on Titus I'm currently trying to figure out why scum wouldn't pressure the lurker if the leading wagon is a scum at both times.

The only one I've come up with so far is that scum is in fact pressuring the lurker but that would mean I'm scum so I'm still puzzling.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Well the vote counts dont lie

<<< Well, they don't LIE, but they can accidentally speak something which isn't true, if I fuck up at any point in time. So it'd be more accurate to say you'd certainly HOPE they don't lie, as them lying would reflect rather poorly on my competence. >>>

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

The only one I've come up with so far is that scum is in fact pressuring the lurker but that would mean I'm scum so I'm still puzzling.

Although admitting this makes me wonder why scum!you would say that

[Garmr]

Garmr, your thoughts on Devil and Shannon?

my thoughts are devil is probably town and shannon is scum. Lexa is scum as I don't see the point in roleblocker and I do't see why a roleblocker would lie about their role.