Mini 532: Yaw's Split Open Mafia: (Game over)

[JordanA24]

Backup Vote Count

Off the Mark (5): Panzerjager, Phate, Thantos, SensFan, QuickBen

(-2)

QuickBen (2): Zhao, Off the Mark
kabenon007 (1): DrunkenPiper
Panzerjager (1): Korlash

Not Voting (3): Holy, kabenon007, mikeburnfire

Fixed a tag at his request

[mikeburnfire]

I dunno. I can't really get a feel on anybody right now. Nobody seems to be town, but none of you are obviously scum either.

vote Panzerjager

[Korlash]

I at least commend you on a good choice

[mikeburnfire]

I didn't like the way he tried to provoke you is all.

[Korlash]

>.> Yeah, good thing I have shroud...

<.< Oh boy another crappy MTG joke... I'm so on fire this game... *yawns*

[Holy]

Hmm, mostly found OTM is likely the scum, I have sound my doubt and thought that he might be isn't.
Now is over than 2 weeks for "-2 or -3 from being lynched" status of him.
While now the focus seemed shifted to Phate or Panzerjager, the Vote Count still haven't reflect that.
So, actually... mostly from DrunkenPiper, Korlash, and mikeburnfire - what is your thoughts of OTM? If you already explained it, please share it again, maybe I missed it somewhere.
Others have showed it by their vote for him plus their little convincing story for that.
Zhao also showed it, but he found that QB was scummier for him.
While 007 showed it also, but thought that his -2 status concerned him. Heh... >.>

[Korlash]

I think OTM's wagon went way to fast, and in my experience fast wagons = most likely town.

That combined with the fact I either did not understand the player's reasons for voting him, or I felt their reasons were crap (I really cannot even remember what they were now to be honest XD) really makes me doubt the wagon.

Oh a related note I have not actually found OTM that much Protown either. He does seem to be completely absent fr most of the game, only popping up when needed to give as little content as possible.

because of this I think he could, maybe, be the Sk. But his lack of interest makes me wonder if he is just another unpowered vanilla town. I really do not want to speculate too much into powers right now so I'll leave it at that.

People really don't seem to care about Panzer, and yet he has done almost the same things OTM has done that I feel are actually reason to suspect a player. Mainly the lack of content, dodging type style of play. I would think a couple others would want to help pressure him into talking. (Holidays noted, some "lurkishness" is given to all players I know, but most of what I am saying is from way before hand)

As for Holy's point about how long OTM has been at L-2/L-1 it is kinda a moot point because of the holidays I'm afraid. D:

[Off the Mark]

As I said before, I like the Panzer lynchmob better than the QuickBen lynch mob, so I'm switching to see if we can get a lttle more momentum going on Panzer.

unvote, vote: Panzer

mikeburnfire doesn't seem to be helping much. Just voting his gut as far as I can tell, without giving any good reasons. When specifically asked for reasons, he dodges. Plus this makes no sense: (emphasis added)

Quickben, Korlash, and

Phate

gave me the worst scumvibes.

unvote Phate

because I don't find him all that suspicious anymore.

So Phate gave you scum vibes but you

don't

find him suspicious. In that case, you've got to explain yourself better. Tell us your reasons for voting/unvoting, especially since you're not using the vibes you're picking up.

[mikeburnfire]

Like I said, I can't really get a read on anybody. I was just going with my feelings, and that can change from post to post.

However, I'm really trying to do something productive in this game, and going after Panzer seems like something I could get behind. I could change my vote later, since my reasons for voting Panzer aren't all that conclusive, but for now I'm satisfied.

[Holy]

Oh a related note I have not actually found OTM that much Protown either. He does seem to be completely absent fr most of the game, only popping up when needed to give as little content as possible.

Yep, I didn't like it too.

People really don't seem to care about Panzer, and yet he has done almost the same things OTM has done that I feel are actually reason to suspect a player. Mainly the lack of content, dodging type style of play. I would think a couple others would want to help pressure him into talking. (Holidays noted, some "lurkishness" is given to all players I know, but most of what I am saying is from way before hand)

Okay, good point. Lets try it.

Vote: Panzerjager

.
From what I saw, Panzer and OTM seems had an experience playing together and their suspicion based from that experience.
But Phate and 007 too had the same case as them, and yeah... me too had that issue with Korlash actually. But the way Panzer exposed it isn't really pro-town anyway.

[Phate]

I disagree. I don't have as much of a problem with the lack of content and dodging style of play as I do with the general "yeah, ok, whatever, I agree" attitude OTM's early play exhibited. To a lesser extent, I also dislike the desperate, spastic finger-pointing and wagonhopping OTM is doing now.

So Phate gave you scum vibes but you

don't

find him suspicious. In that case, you've got to explain yourself better. Tell us your reasons for voting/unvoting, especially since you're not using the vibes you're picking up.

Like I said, I can't really get a read on anybody. I was just going with my feelings, and that can change from post to post.

However, I'm really trying to do something productive in this game, and going after Panzer seems like something I could get behind. I could change my vote later, since my reasons for voting Panzer aren't all that conclusive, but for now I'm satisfied.

Speaking of dodging questions...

[Korlash]

So you don;t have a problem with it yet you know what to bring it up? Hmmm... It couldn't be this easy could it?

[Phate]

Ok, what? Let me quote myself here, and you read it carefully, and if you still have a problem try this thing called grammar.

I don't have as much of a problem with the lack of content and dodging style of play as I do with the general "yeah, ok, whatever, I agree" attitude OTM's early play exhibited.

[Korlash]

Speaking of dodging questions...

Saying "I don't have a problem with the lack of content

and dodging style of play

" and then bringing up someone dodging is just a little odd to me. Do I mean it as an attack, not really (Hint smiley) do I thin kit has merit as a possible Krap Logick piece, yes. Do I like to rub things like this in your face? Yes I do. ^^

[Phate]

OHHHHH.

I stand by my post, though. I only find a dodging playstyle to be a minor scumtell compared to incessant agreement. This doesn't mean I won't bring it up.

For example, you seem to have a larger problem with a dodgy playstyle. Why didn't you jump on this?

[Korlash]

I didn't see it as a dodge.

I actually thought you were trying to confuse the town with stuff even I wouldn't buy. But yeah, I hate people who dodge things. I don;t post my... crap... *laughs at the pun* just to let it be ignored.

[Off the Mark]

Incessant agreement? I think you're blowing things out of proportion there, Phate. You might want to go back and review.

[bird1111]

2 months should be long enough for a Day 1

Final Deadline: Sunday, January 13th@1:48pm EST

[QuickBen]

Just looking back over the last page or two...

@Korlash- I get where you're coming from about the OTM wagon being fast. I personally don't feel it was that fast, but then again I'm looking at it from the standpoint of it stretching from the first accusation to the last defense, not from the first vote to the last vote. I personally feel he more likely to be scum based on the fact that it stalled at L-2 and stayed there. To me that feels like the town was lynching scum and his buddies were standing back to see if they should bus him to "prove" themselves or defend him and save one of their own. The fact that as soon as the verbal pressure cooled on him, he dropped his vote on me and threw his weight behind the panzer wagon.

[QuickBen]

add this to the end of that post- just pushes my scumdar a little further into the red.

[Drunken Piper]

So, actually... mostly from DrunkenPiper, Korlash, and mikeburnfire - what is your thoughts of OTM? If you already explained it, please share it again, maybe I missed it somewhere.

I do not like OTM's constant jump on a wagons that are.
His excuses to are not up to snuff or on par.

However, his wagon has been fast.
His worthlessness, inspired votes cast.

I think he will probably hurt us in later days.
His playstyle is lacking, and leaves me in a daze.

But I think his lynch today looks none to hard.
Could be scum driven, and full of lard.

At any rate, me vote is on the scummiest in me view.
Holy, your thoughts on Kab, I think are due.

[Korlash]

@Korlash- I get where you're coming from about the OTM wagon being fast. I personally don't feel it was that fast, but then again I'm looking at it from the standpoint of it stretching from the first accusation to the last defense, not from the first vote to the last vote. I personally feel he more likely to be scum based on the fact that it stalled at L-2 and stayed there. To me that feels like the town was lynching scum and his buddies were standing back to see if they should bus him to "prove" themselves or defend him and save one of their own. The fact that as soon as the verbal pressure cooled on him, he dropped his vote on me and threw his weight behind the panzer wagon.

Your argument is flawed, as it is jsut as likely the scum were trying to lynch town and it stalled becuase all three scum were already on the wagon. And would he not throw his weight on another wagon if he was, in fact, town? especially if said wagon is a good one.

[Holy]

So, actually... mostly from DrunkenPiper, Korlash, and mikeburnfire - what is your thoughts of OTM? If you already explained it, please share it again, maybe I missed it somewhere.

I do not like OTM's constant jump on a wagons that are.
His excuses to are not up to snuff or on par.

However, his wagon has been fast.
His worthlessness, inspired votes cast.

I think he will probably hurt us in later days.
His playstyle is lacking, and leaves me in a daze.

But I think his lynch today looks none to hard.
Could be scum driven, and full of lard.

Hmm...
You know what, I found it's difficult for me to measure your "good faith" with the way you explained things.

At any rate, me vote is on the scummiest in me view.
Holy, your thoughts on Kab, I think are due.

Not really... Kab suspected OTM, and then QB, after QB's explanation, he withdrew the vote, I guess he threw minor FOS to Panzer too. Thus left his first said suspect back on top, he hasn't add his update though.

[PJ.]

Give me a couple days to get my barrings and I'll love to post about how terribly scummy OTM is.

[kabenon007]

Holy, what do you mean by I haven't added my update?