Mini 1877: Spyro the Dragon (Game Over)

[RadiantCowbells]

Look around in this game. Do you really think you're the only person who would reconsider my slot every single night phase that I survived because why did no one kill RC yet?

[eagerSnake]

You never know.. some people it might not even cross their mind you could be scum after hard bussing your partner d1

[RadiantCowbells]

Like everyone is so abhorrently terrified that I might be scum that endgames them but literally no one gives a shit at the prospect of me being mislynched and wasting a lynch. That should be a problem considering I'm 10/13 times town.

[eagerSnake]

yeah which is why I'd just vig you to remove the WIFOM if there weren't better vig options (which there is)

[RadiantCowbells]

And how, Eagersnake, do you think that's fair to me when I'm basically just policy vig bait in spite of being a really strong town player?

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I'm not going to sit here and tell anyone what their win condition should be but this game has been incredibly not fun for me since FA left and I just want out at this point.

[eagerSnake]

Like I said I'd only do it if there weren't better options... and if there are no better options then your town play must've not been too great that game amirite?

[eagerSnake]

But right now there are better options like massive, flubber, cakez, leon, gin, n_m

so like.. lol.. I'm not going to vig you just because you're you and you're in the game

only if you were a better option than all those players which would mean you're playing a shit game

[RadiantCowbells]

So what if I was having an off game? Is my scum game so terrifying that in order to survive as town I have to be absolutely on point every game or I just have to be gotten rid of because of my scum game?

Okay fine but you are one player among a game of 13.

[eagerSnake]

Let's lynch Gin

[MagnaofIllusion]

So what if I was having an off game? Is my scum game so terrifying that in order to survive as town I have to be absolutely on point every game or I just have to be gotten rid of because of my scum game?

The irony of you peddling this after the Nightless Vengeful Mayhem game makes me chuckle ...

[MagnaofIllusion]

@mod, can you confirm me ic please?

This is confirmed by TTH and I think we do mass-claim. Because an IC on the table means any Town protective role absolutely has to protect him and I don’t want late “Oh, I WIFOMed the protection” claims made if Town IC Lane was killed N1.

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And I have zero idea what to make out of Gin’s “Strongman is scum” tantrum. Part of me wants to give in and lynch him because that reaction is so out of line with what I expect from a quality player that Gin is supposed to be. The vote on Eager for being scum is bad … the amount of Vig claim shield Eager currently would evaporate immediately if there are not two kills N1. Especially with being a claimed Strongarm Vig. So even less reason to vote Eager on bad set-up spec reasons. And this –

Why vote me if you can shoot me?

Is Road to Rome level logic. I expect better from Gin.

I also don’t like that Gin has zero doubt about NotMafia at this stage (he’s solid Town for Gin) but NotMafia is willing to push Gin as scum. 1728 where he says there are two Role Cops inherently shows buy-in that both should be considered Town. And others have mentioned his progression on Not Mafia is not good.

And with his replace-out (which I will be reporting as strategic if he ever is revealed as scum as I plan to with ProHawk) I’m never getting feedback directly from Gin.

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Magna it was just a trap (rxn test) don't worry

If you are Town then cut that shit out right now. Because your tricksy traps just make me annoyed as hell.

But what reactions did you get out of it that you liked since you already declared it a trap here?

If I could guarantee catching a scum with a mass claim then what would you say

I’d say there is no chance it does with TTH as a Mod in a confirmed 10-3 setup.

Along those lines Massive’s 1748 is so stupid I’m wondering if someone on site for almost 14 years would make it as Town. The fact that this is 10-3 has been discussed and posted by the Mod.

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Am I the only one that thinks day 2 double voter is ridiculous or...

Yeah, it is. That said it is the level of ridiculous that I would expect to be basically a VT equivalent in a Role Madness game. It would be my first choice to RoleCop as it stands now because it is the perfect cover for some sort of Mafia JOAT role …

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Eager is still basically conf town. There are reasons for saying he's a strongman, some of which involve him being a strongman and some don't. Unvote.

Another reason I am voting you. Eager has proven nothing to this point. He is “Sort after N1” not confirmed Town. Odds of him being scum fake-claiming on Page 11? Small. But still possible.

honestly gin's play isn't really looking like strong scum play. It looks towny but he doesn't seem to have a plan or anything. He votes people and pisses before off for no apparent benefit

I think gin tends to vote people who piss him off, and you pissed him off by threatening to vig him. This is true regardless of gin's alignment, but I think he's more likely to go off the handle and do rash things (like voting the vig) as town. I don't think role necessarily isn't correlated with alignment, and gin could've believe that role does = alignment.

Massive's vote...was pretty bad, I admit. He still looks like he's gamesolving to me though in general

Speaking of bad reasons to Town read players that I expect from Infinity scum …

[Infinity 324]

I'm in the place where when you saids that you were going to vig me I had a replace request written but then unwrote it because you said that you were joking.

This is complete aids. If I am going to play in a playerlist where everyone is advocating policy lynches and vigs on me simply because of my name and avatar I'd rather get lynched day 1 tbh.

This is bullshit, no one is advocating a policy lynch on you

I think you're scum

[RadiantCowbells]

You mean the Nightless Vengeful where I literally got to actually post in the game for less than 24H before I was immediately dayvigged?
And yeah sure I was wrong about you: but I had considered that I could be wrong about you. I had considered that I could be wrong about Superhans too.
I did my best to win us the game and I was super, super clear that Fitz went first. That was entirely outside of my control. If we had done things the way I wanted; if I had been alive; it would have been a diff game.
The moment you flipped town I would have had Revan as hardtown and I would have known that I had to shake up my townblock.

No, I don't think that was strategic though I do think it was a scum ragequit.

This is bullshit, no one is advocating a policy lynch on you

I think you're scum

Lane's vote on me essentially boils down to policy since he has outright said he has no strong reason to scumread me. Magna hard advocated that I be lynched if I live to LyLo. So no.

[eagerSnake]

Lol I had read some of that game and I thought it was funny that RC scumread MOI based on "A team of newbscum would've gotten scared and shot him. .. He needs to die."

But then they get mad when people say "Why isn't RC dead they must be scum"

Bit hypocritical but w/e they're still town here

[Infinity 324]

Lane's vote on me essentially boils down to policy since he has outright said he has no strong reason to scumread me. Magna hard advocated that I be lynched if I live to LyLo. So no.

"You're suspicious but I'm not super confident you're scum" is not policy by any stretch of the imagination. The lylo thing is fair though.

[MagnaofIllusion]

This is sidelining the point - you said in the Dead QT that the main reason you included me as "99.6% sure Scum" is that you didn't want to see me make endgame.

You can't turn around and whine that I advocate you get lynched if you make it to MYLO / LYLO.

Sorry if you can dish it out but can't take it ...

[RadiantCowbells]

That was one small part of my read. The big thing was Fitz throwing shade at MoI literally nonstop and never getting pushed by him for it.

This is sidelining the point - you said in the Dead QT that the main reason you included me as "99.6% sure Scum" is that you didn't want to see me make endgame.

You can't turn around and whine that I advocate you get lynched if you make it to MYLO / LYLO.

Sorry if you can dish it out but can't take it ...

Because I thought you were scum, yes. I exaggerated my read on you but I still thought you were scum. That wasn't a policy lynch?

[RadiantCowbells]

Correction: I exaggerated my read on you to make sure that you weren't able to brush off the read on you and survive on scum. Not because of some policy shit about not wanting you in LyLo.

[eagerSnake]

So the reason I town read the RC slot is everything from post 500 up to past 800+ from them was really undeniably townie to me

[eagerSnake]

Start 475

[RadiantCowbells]

And here I was thinking someone actually townread me

[MagnaofIllusion]

No, I don't think that was strategic though I do think it was a scum ragequit.

I don't care ... I've had to do it with Garmr (for that Fire and Ice game where he replaced after I turned up the pressure on him before I got lynched by scum and derp Firebringer) and I'll do it here also. I'm sick to death of people who leave games when the heat gets turned their way as scum for the replacement Halo. If you cannot take being suspected as scum and it makes it "Not Fun" stop playing Mafia.

[RadiantCowbells]

There's thinking that I'm scum and there's not really thinking that I'm scum and lynching me anyways because of my username. One of them I can handle, the other is uncool.

[Infinity 324]

One of them I can handle

You say this, but your reaction to me voting you earlier says something very different...