~laundry~ FIN

[Tammy]

Hi firebringer I read your case.

What did you mean by commenting on things that mattered to him? What type of comfort zone are you expecting?

The second point isn't totally strong. In some recent games, and you might be thinking of family mafia there, nacho has gotten paranoid of being pushed, but the bigger majority of the time someone attacking him hits his soft spot and he town reads them for it. I think it's more based on if it feels like a bullshit read to him.

I don't think being overtly friendly is a big tell for him.

So those last two things I don't think are indicators of him being scum but I'm interested in your observations on the first thing, more so because it's helping me with my read of you.

[Nachomamma8]

if you just ignored it because lalala you do that sometimes.

Because lalala I either missed it or forgot about it.
I'm not overly surprised that you're taking a while to sort through the read on me and I don't necessarily remember what weirded you out otherwise other than my early Gerry read, which I think that I laid out decently well; I figured he was obviously lying about his role based on what I laid out before (and while I'm having doubts there I still think it was compelling), and yes I'd probably make the push as scum because I'd go ballistic if that was a partner and I'd go ballistic if that was somehow town but I don't think that I've failed to recognize flashes where they exist (you said there was flail earlier that looked town to you - interested in what you thought specifically about it).

[Nachomamma8]

Pine is not something we should talk about right this instant; got things to do.

[Pine]

Nacho's read on me is defensive in nature.

[Nachomamma8]

He felt contributory, he looked in some instances to be scum hunting, but something wasn't right.

This is certainly a good way to approach the read.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho's read on me is defensive in nature.

It certainly is.

[gerryoat]

Tammy his read on me has been blatant since day 1. Stop hoping for him to be town and lynch him

[MariaR]

GERRY GET ON SKYPE FFS

[gerryoat]

I can't, I'm on mobile for like the next hour lol. I'll check then or you can pm me here if it's important

[Tammy]

Oh er um...you actually responded nacho and I apparently missed it or forgot.

[Tammy]

Your play this game has been weird


but Pine was my dark horse scum read yesterday before Gerry lied about his role and started a ruckus

[MariaR]

Gerry why say you lied about your role just to do a reaction test on me seems a bit...much?

[gerryoat]

I didn't lie about my role. And I didn't cause a ruckus, you and your partner did thinking I was ccing you. My role is still the same

[Tammy]

Also whoever was arguing that we couldn't do laundry without him, we um lynched the laundry so we have nothing to do actually. Go Team!

[Tammy]

Hey McMenno do you have any other thoughts? I thought your push on Creature looked pretty good, but looking back it was quite one-note. Any other reads at all?

[Tammy]

Oh forgot not loving at all that Zach is concerned about one vote on him and wants to know why.

[Tammy]

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature

(9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne, Tammy, Fro99er, Desperado

SlySly

(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(2): Toogeloo, SlySly

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(0):
17 players, 9 majority.

[MariaR]

I didn't lie about my role. And I didn't cause a ruckus, you and your partner did thinking I was ccing you. My role is still the same

Partner?

[Tammy]

Oh hey guys guess what Pine is third on the wagon. THIRD. That is pretty much the strongest hitting scum tell there is!

It's never been wrong. String him up!

I kid I kid though I am suspicious of Pine.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Hey McMenno do you have any other thoughts? I thought your push on Creature looked pretty good, but looking back it was quite one-note. Any other reads at all?

I feel the same way.

If he had come into this day with the same vigor then I would've kept my townread on him for the Creature push, but now I'm not sure.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Does anybody reasonably think everyone who was on Sly was town? And that Sly is also town?

Sly is either scum or scum are on him. Part of the reason for my dreamz scumread.

[Desperado]

Also all his interactions with Desperado clearly shows Nacho is defending town there.
I mean, I think Desperado is likely town now regardless of Nacho flip, but all those interactions show me someone trying to pocket town.

Derp = Town
Nacho = Scum

it's not pocketing if we both find each other simultaneously

i understand that you're afraid of what can happen after that

it's ok

we'll make it quick and painless i promise

[Errantparabola]

Prodding SlySly.

[Tammy]

Does anybody reasonably think everyone who was on Sly was town? And that Sly is also town?

Sly is either scum or scum are on him. Part of the reason for my dreamz scumread.

Great minds!

This is literally what I've been sitting here contemplating and wondering about. Unfortunately, I have pool league in a bit and don't have much longer to think, so it'll be a bit before I gather my thoughts about that.

[Tammy]

Also McMenno you seem convinced that drealmer is town pretty early. Are you approaching that read with more caution now after seeing him win PYP or is his play demonstrably different?