~laundry~ FIN

[MariaR]

Try to guess the Null line

[gerryoat]

do you think ppl were bussing creature? and who and why do you think so

[MariaR]

do you think ppl were bussing creature? and who and why do you think so

Of course I'd bus the shit out of him too I will almost always bus the goon for town cred fuck the goon unless it's a friend then maybe but Creature HAHAHAHAHAHA
Why do people bus because if everyone knows Creature has a bad scum game and he's a goon of course there gonna do it for town cred and I think that's extactly what pine did when he went on to say " I drove the creature wagon"

You have a partner that's known for a bad scum game and he's already getting votes. What are you gonna do?

[drealmerz7]

hopefully not call them shitplayers and rage-push a lynch on them, right?

[MariaR]

hopefully not call them shitplayers and rage-push a lynch on them, right?

You mean what you did to me in pick your power (B

[Toogeloo]

do you think ppl were bussing creature? and who and why do you think so

I absolutely think the entire scum team was probably on Creature, or at least half. My current (conspiracy) theory is that we had a few scum lined up for lynching yesterday, but that Creature needed to be pushed harder since he was an expendable goon. People saying that Creature was obvious scum are overselling that point as I didn't see it myself. I'm guessing that we had at the very least 2 scum lined up to be lynched, but scum were piled on Creature and spending much of their efforts convincing the actual town players to give up their vanity wagons to get off their PR team mates.

[Firebringer]

i like you brining back this avi maria.

[MariaR]

I like it aswell.

[Firebringer]

when will u stop rolling ur eyes at me though.
its so rude.

[MariaR]

I would make a facial expression but my avi says it for me

[Firebringer]

Tammy Toogeloo
Ser Arthur Dayne Nachomamma8 gerryoat
SlySly drealmerz7
Desperado
Firebringer Andrius McMenno
Nosferatu Zachstralkita
Pine

why am i not conf scum in this?

[MariaR]

Puppy status puts you up a few ranks

[drealmerz7]

hopefully not call them shitplayers and rage-push a lynch on them, right?

You mean what you did to me in pick your power (B

yeah though actually I didn't rage-push your lynch - had to wait a Day and was cooled by then so the bus was merely tactical - seriously a good sport, it really did good for us, thanks

[MariaR]

hopefully not call them shitplayers and rage-push a lynch on them, right?

You mean what you did to me in pick your power (B

yeah though actually I didn't rage-push your lynch - had to wait a Day and was cooled by then so the bus was merely tactical - seriously a good sport, it really did good for us, thanks

We had a bit of fighting but in the end we won and I'm glad my lynch helped us do it I'd do it again in a heartbeat

[drealmerz7]

I gotta get better at not getting so frustrated in mafia

[Firebringer]

a skill that we all have under leveled, sadly.
maybe not a few here.

[Nachomamma8]

Hello Zach.

Have you gained any scumreads over the course of like the entire game.

Yea Need to catch up tho

Who are you scumreading...?

[Firebringer]

Okay so i was thinking more over while i have been gone why I exactly think Nacho is scum.

I have felt he is off this whole game, I will admit but I didn't push it much Day 1, and I don't think me thinking he was off day 1 means i have been tunneling him.

Basically I have gotten VERY SIMILAR pings from this game compared to Order of the Stick!Nacho. He felt contributory, he looked in some instances to be scum hunting, but something wasn't right.

I later while spectating that game came to conclusion "well if he is scum, I would never be able to get him lynched, charisma/effort"

What has seemed off to me:
Day 1, he contributes to things that matter more to him. [Does this mean anything? Why wouldn't anyone do this?]
Yes, for him it means something, I think thats how you get "genuine" nacho posts to begin with. If he was seriously committed to scum-hunting he would go out of that comfort zone to do scum hunting which I didn't see.

Him recognizing town pushing him is also ANOTHER HUGE THING. That is not something Town!Nacho has done in past games I have observed of him. He was overly paranoid in one game when nearly full town wagon pushed him. [Need to find the reference to that game]

Also his behavior towards players in being overtly friendly, again not being a tell in of itself, seems like something LESS LIKELY to do as town. I suspect he would say something more akin to "Do what you gotta do". This is probably my weakest point, and obviously going to be shouted down.


Firebringer made a case.
Time to ignore it now though.

[Firebringer]

Also all his interactions with Desperado clearly shows Nacho is defending town there.
I mean, I think Desperado is likely town now regardless of Nacho flip, but all those interactions show me someone trying to pocket town.

Derp = Town
Nacho = Scum

[gerryoat]

@Toog creature was obvious town in a game that just finished. This game he was way different this game. Maria and dreal were both in that game so that's why I'm skeptical on them that they didn't notice. But both were maf so maybe that's why.

[drealmerz7]

I have a hard time generating any read on creature and I notice gets killed a LOT early in games - I had no interest in him on D1 or even trying to guess at a read (especially after the D1 that was here where it's gotten out of reach for me)

[Zachstralkita]

Hello Zach.

Have you gained any scumreads over the course of like the entire game.

Yea Need to catch up tho

Who are you scumreading...?

Sly McMenno Andrius



Ehhhh maybe Maria for putting in no effort to read my slot

[Firebringer]

Firebringer made a case.
Time to ignore it now though.

I am amazing at prediction.

[Tammy]

Nacho can you talk about your Pine read? Also I was hoping that you would have responded to the post I made earlier about my concerns on you, but you ignored it. I'm having a really hard time getting a read on you right now and that makes me unhappy. I can't tell if you ignored it because you learned that you over interact with me sometimes when you're scum and now you're trying to correct that or if you just ignored it because lalala you do that sometimes. I feel like I would have a better read on you right now if it weren't for the whole crap fest of day one, and well I'd probably have a better handle on the game full stop but hey. Anyway I'm unhappy where I'm at with no read, no lean, just a really big wanting for you to be town and thankful that you helped clear up the shit. So help if you're town. Pretend to help if you're scum :p

[Tammy]

Also your gerry read?