~laundry~ FIN

[Firebringer]

just replace out then tammy.

[Desperado]

or talk to someone

[Desperado]

like nacho and i are here right now

[Desperado]

tammy what kind of thoughts did you have overnight?

[Nachomamma8]

just replace out then tammy.

tammy, please don't leave me here.
please.

[gerryoat]

For the 3rd time. Maria. Why is nacho town

Why the fuck are you asking me? You scumread me it's not like anything I say would change your outlook

Just answer

[Tammy]

Well i was on the opposite side of the spectrum as Nacho on mcmenno. I liked his immediate suspicion on creature from the replace in. I didn't think it looked like a bus. I don't remember playing with mcmenno though, so I don't know what to expect from him.

I don't think that people not going full charge on creature scum makes them scum. I've only seen creature play a couple times and he's been underwhelming both times. He maybe interacted with people a little bit more in the maze game I guess. People saying he was flailing is lol as I didn't get that impression at all. Also people saying that he was flailing AND getting after people going after Gerry who was and is still flailing like a mother fucker are lol.

Pine was who I was leaning towards wanting to lynch yesterday before all the Gerry bullshit hullabaloo that started up. But it's more a gut feeling than anything else.

[gerryoat]

I wish we lynched Gerry yesterday because his antics and bullshit attitude are a good portion of what's fucking up this game for town and making this game a mind numbingly piece of bullshit to play

Lol? Salty much? I'm playing the game.

[Andrius]

I don't remember playing with mcmenno though, so I don't know what to expect from him.

I would be 0% surprised if Menno bussed Creature.
I liked the early material but Menno has done little since then.
I think it would not be out of character to drop something like that and then leave it the rest of the day.
Especially since Creature was not certain for death until literally 3 hours from deadline.

[gerryoat]

Hey guys I didn't know me lynching mafia was fucking it up for us. Sorry

[Tammy]

My uncertainties on Nacho stem from not recognizing the meta argument against Creature and not acknowledging some of Gerry's flail that looked kinda townish. The argument against Creature was based on some meta that he acted differently when town, but that wasn't acknowledged, so I wanted to look into that more. His push against Gerry was pretty strong and I wasn't sure if it was him being stubborn against someone who made a claim that was most likely complete bullshit and that made him scum when some of his antics looked kinda town. But Nacho can be stubborn sometimes as town too, so that's something I wanted to talk a little bit more about with him to get a feel for where his head is at.

[Tammy]

Though if Gerry comes from a homesite and has more experience than here then he is more suspicious. I was looking at him and his behavior as being snot nosed noob. If he's not, then I can see that from scum.

[Andrius]

Though if Gerry comes from a homesite and has more experience than here then he is more suspicious. I was looking at him and his behavior as being snot nosed noob. If he's not, then I can see that from scum.

I found this that might help:

Subject: Mini Normal 1814 Machiavellian Mafia (Game Over)

Hello this is my first ever game on mafiascum, so please be gentle lol.

I am not new to forum maf

, though so things should be fine. It seems like I've missed a lot already. It took like an hour to find out how to find the thread on here since things are confusing. Once I finish rereading all 8 pages, I'll give my initial reads. But, from what I remember from another site i'm on, the first couple pages are mostly joke votes and such. Either way I'll post again soon.

Bold is mine.

[Andrius]

Still think he's town.

[Tammy]

I don't buy into counter wagon arguments because I've seen way too many times that scum have been wagoned simultaneously and then discounted as town (and I put this here because Toogello cautioned me about this next argument), but I want to look at the way that the slyly wagon developed because that could have been a counter wagon to save creature.

[Tammy]

Still think he's town.

He might be town, but I will hammer and gladly lynch that wagon if it ever becomes a thing and will not care. He is a detriment to town no matter his alignment.

[gerryoat]

Though if Gerry comes from a homesite and has more experience than here then he is more suspicious. I was looking at him and his behavior as being snot nosed noob. If he's not, then I can see that from scum.

I told you day 1 I wasn't a noob. But lol at scumreading me still

[Desperado]

tammy gerry has like 20+ completed games

[Tammy]

Arthur looks townish from the way he went after and mentioned creature the entire game. Arthur has never played with creature before so he had every reason to give creature a pass but doesn't.

[gerryoat]

Tammy how is me lynching mafia bad for town. Stop being salty omg.

[Nachomamma8]

My uncertainties on Nacho stem from not recognizing the meta argument against Creature and not acknowledging some of Gerry's flail that looked kinda townish. The argument against Creature was based on some meta that he acted differently when town, but that wasn't acknowledged, so I wanted to look into that more. His push against Gerry was pretty strong and I wasn't sure if it was him being stubborn against someone who made a claim that was most likely complete bullshit and that made him scum when some of his antics looked kinda town. But Nacho can be stubborn sometimes as town too, so that's something I wanted to talk a little bit more about with him to get a feel for where his head is at.

i didn't think that the beetlejuicing thing applied when he was around and posting plenty when i was also in thread; from my skimming of Creature games elsewhere I didn't see a definite comparison to his scum games and his play here and I didn't think that he was far off from his town game here at all.

gerry's not just a "noob"; he doesn't play like a noob and he sure as shit doesn't play like someone without any experience. there are some things that he's said that have thrown me off a bit (hence why Pine is far and above #1), but I don't think that town!gerry goes as far as he did with the lie and the frustration surrounding it yesterday (in particular the calling people shit players for pushing on him despite the claim and then just lying about the claim), I don't see him telling the truth about the claim, and I don't want there to be any worlds where he is scum and manages to live until the end of this game because fuck that.

[Firebringer]

I am really surprised at how bad I am at reading Creature, like he should be an easy read, but I am wrong very often on him.
Maybe I should quit mafia.

[Desperado]

Arthur looks townish from the way he went after and mentioned creature the entire game. Arthur has never played with creature before so he had every reason to give creature a pass but doesn't.

*cut to scum pt pregame*

creature: hey guys my scum game blows you should probably just bus me

sad: ok

????????

[Tammy]

Tammy how is me lynching mafia bad for town. Stop being salty omg.

Start making useful posts and be helpful to town. I'll stop being salty when you stop being a detriment to this game.

[Desperado]

i'm not even saying that's what happened, my sad read is in flux right now, but i mean...that is not a reason think sad is town