Open 671: Greater Idea - OVER

[Spade_Ace]

Your 839 is nothing but a prejudiced view from tainted glass.

Unlike what you have been doing all game?

[Spade_Ace]

Unvote: Spade

Unvotes have to be bolded or tagged.

@bang why didn't you properly unvote me even after grey explicitly mentioned that. You do realise your vote is still on me, ryt?

[alban]

Howz it that everyone who has claimed so far has come up with fantastic roles that are impossible to verify? Gamma, Spade and Grey are all lying imo.

Especially, Spade's claim. The melodrama in the beginning makes sense now. You wanted to post something that everyone will remember you by and which you could also revisit in future in case your roleclaim needed to be verified. You could just say, 'I had told you so long back'. Which you actually did cite, when someone asked you why didn't you claim in the beginning.

Gamma, why did you claim now? There was no pressure to reveal. In fact, if you are a survivor, you were doing a pretty good job till the revelation. Also, why would you give up a mild investigative role and want to be a survivor? If the idea was to play alone or a small faction, why did you give up now?

Did anyone notice Dave's strategy over Spade wagon (jumping onto it in the middle of sickness, abandoning it as soon as Spade claimed and then disappearing again)? Damn suspicious.

[-Grey-]

Gamma, why did you claim now? There was no pressure to reveal. In fact, if you are a survivor, you were doing a pretty good job till the revelation. Also, why would you give up a mild investigative role and want to be a survivor? If the idea was to play alone or a small faction, why did you give up now?

My guess is he chose lyncher.

If a lyncher's target is killed via means other than lynch, the lyncher is converted into a Survivor.

[Spade_Ace]

If NM was a town player who targeted me at night and got his alignment converted, then we have one less town player. His 'why havent we killed 'the black goo' statement makes sense then.

[-Grey-]

If NM was a town player who targeted me at night and got his alignment converted, then we have one less town player. His 'why havent we killed 'the black goo' statement makes sense then.

No it doesn't.

If he's culted, he would want you left alive because it's his best chance to win.

[Spade_Ace]

True. Then he could be a jester ??? I dont get his style of play today.

[-Grey-]

Nah, he's not really fishing for a lynch.

He's just NM.

[alban]

Gamma, why did you claim now? There was no pressure to reveal. In fact, if you are a survivor, you were doing a pretty good job till the revelation. Also, why would you give up a mild investigative role and want to be a survivor? If the idea was to play alone or a small faction, why did you give up now?

My guess is he chose lyncher.

If a lyncher's target is killed via means other than lynch, the lyncher is converted into a Survivor.

Even if he changed alignment, why reveal role at this point in the game? He was doing a good job as a survivor. I don't know where he goes from here now that he has claimed. And how does one know if he is telling the truth. For all of Spade's liabilities, he played it correctly. That part gives him some credence. You and Gamma have revealed your roles at random points in the game.
So, two questions for you Gamma.
1. Why would you discard Consp Theorist for Survivor?
2. Why did you reveal your role now?

[-Grey-]

Even if he changed alignment, why reveal role at this point in the game?

Decreases the likelihood he'll be NK'ed.

There are plenty of other lynch targets, so he knows he isn't a priority.

[-Grey-]

You and Gamma have revealed your roles at random points in the game.

There's nothing random about my reveal at all.

Haven't you learned, yet? Just because you don't know the reason doesn't mean there isn't one.

[alban]

I make a statement. You disagree with it. Give a reason and clear my ignorance.
Seriously, how difficult is that?

[-Grey-]

Kinda silly to expect an answer when no question exists.

Don't blame

me

because

you

make assumptions.

[alban]

Answers are still better than defensive posts.

And as if you yield to questions. You need people ready to suck up to you, and when that's established, you hold the court. You don't need and want me questioning you.

[-Grey-]

Try it in a non-accusatory manner and you'll find I'll actually answer things.

[-Grey-]

If I didn't want to work with you, alban, I wouldn't be reaching out to you here.

[-Grey-]

I claimed because town's majority may be at risk and my role has the ability to offset further damage to town's majority.

As long as we can keep lynching scum, town can maintain its majority without sacrificing me, but if we mislynch once, then I need to be lynched immediately after.

Unlike most PR's, I have nothing to fear from scum because they aren't likely to NK me since it won't kill me... until after I'm converted. That's why I want to keep lynching probable scum until we mislynch.

[alban]

Do you find anything odd in Gamma's claim? In context of the timing of it and the card he retained for the card he discarded? For me, doesn't fit. It's better you answer it only after gamma has answered it himself. But think about it.

[-Grey-]

Nope, and I already said why.

[-Grey-]

Lol, I can see another possibility as to why he'd choose survivor.

Risky, but it would be fun with the right partner.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am Survivor

Gamma, are there any variations to your role. Like, you just need to survive till day 3 kind?

A quick wikki read suggests that survivor role is essentially anti-town as scum now needs to focus on one less person to win their game. Your role could also be a liability to town at Lylo. If all you care is your wincon you could vote town and wait for scum to hammer.

We are sure there are 4 town members alive. Excluding the Saulus and the survivor, we could still have a maximum of 3 scum alive.

If you are indeed a survivor, the game now reduces to 8 players fighting for their wincons. I dont think scum will nk you.

Also, gamma what was the reason for your claim?

Look by my username

[Spade_Ace]

Hahahah

Congrats gamma.

[Gamma Emerald]

Howz it that everyone who has claimed so far has come up with fantastic roles that are impossible to verify? Gamma, Spade and Grey are all lying imo.

Especially, Spade's claim. The melodrama in the beginning makes sense now. You wanted to post something that everyone will remember you by and which you could also revisit in future in case your roleclaim needed to be verified. You could just say, 'I had told you so long back'. Which you actually did cite, when someone asked you why didn't you claim in the beginning.

Gamma, why did you claim now? There was no pressure to reveal. In fact, if you are a survivor, you were doing a pretty good job till the revelation. Also, why would you give up a mild investigative role and want to be a survivor? If the idea was to play alone or a small faction, why did you give up now?

Did anyone notice Dave's strategy over Spade wagon (jumping onto it in the middle of sickness, abandoning it as soon as Spade claimed and then disappearing again)? Damn suspicious.

Don't like this "everyone is lying" mumbojumbo.

Fos: alban

Gamma, why did you claim now? There was no pressure to reveal. In fact, if you are a survivor, you were doing a pretty good job till the revelation. Also, why would you give up a mild investigative role and want to be a survivor? If the idea was to play alone or a small faction, why did you give up now?

My guess is he chose lyncher.

If a lyncher's target is killed via means other than lynch, the lyncher is converted into a Survivor.

If I was lyncher whose target was shot you'd see a lot more rage from me.
Either way, it wasn't real.

[Vaxkiller]

I am Survivor

Gamma, are there any variations to your role. Like, you just need to survive till day 3 kind?

A quick wikki read suggests that survivor role is essentially anti-town as scum now needs to focus on one less person to win their game. Your role could also be a liability to town at Lylo. If all you care is your wincon you could vote town and wait for scum to hammer.

We are sure there are 4 town members alive. Excluding the Saulus and the survivor, we could still have a maximum of 3 scum alive.

If you are indeed a survivor, the game now reduces to 8 players fighting for their wincons. I dont think scum will nk you.

Also, gamma what was the reason for your claim?

Look by my username

Looks at their own username.

Shit.

[Spade_Ace]

Howz it that everyone who has claimed so far has come up with fantastic roles that are impossible to verify? Gamma, Spade and Grey are all lying imo.

Especially, Spade's claim. The melodrama in the beginning makes sense now. You wanted to post something that everyone will remember you by and which you could also revisit in future in case your roleclaim needed to be verified. You could just say, 'I had told you so long back'. Which you actually did cite, when someone asked you why didn't you claim in the beginning.

Are you saying, you still suspect me or you that you dont? Kinda ambiguous.