~laundry~ FIN

[Fro99er]

Tammy and I are the Washing Machines. You don't see us yelling, "Good luck doing your laundry without the Washing Machines," even though we know we are destined for death.

LOL

[gerryoat]

Okay. I'm not saying my role. Bye.

[Andrius]

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

[Nachomamma8]

Okay. I'm not saying my role. Bye.

Why not?

[Zachstralkita]

He's only acting like that because he wants to spite you guys

But you're doing the same thing lynching him because of that -- It's not town to counter something anti-town with something also anti-town just so you can be even


I haven't seen anyone solidly identify the scum motivation behind his initial claim. I mean, someone tried. Like, he "claims PR" when his wagon builds pressure. Then he doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live. Fast forward to now. He still doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live.



??


WHAT???

Where is the sense in this train of thought? Where is the self-preservation? Every instance he could have used to save face and maybe live by getting on your good side, he tells you to fuck yourselves. There's no one defending him. I'm defending him. I'm not going to be able to not get him killed.

If gerry is scum he did like 12 grams of coke in pregame and somehow never came down and for that I applaud him

Tammy and I are the Washing Machines. You don't see us yelling, "Good luck doing your laundry without the Washing Machines," even though we know we are destined for death.

SlySly pretty much did this...

[Fro99er]

UUUUUUUUUUUGGHHHHH

I'm so torn with Gerry and Creature

WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

[Andrius]

He's only acting like that because he wants to spite you guys

So what makes you think he's actually going to help us out later?
He's going to continue doing his own thing and there are zero indications he will play with the town's well-being in mind.

[Andrius]

Like, if I stab out Gerry tonight no one should complain because while he may be town his projected usefulness is near 0% and I don't want him anywhere near endgame.

Unvote, Vote: Creature

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

He's only acting like that because he wants to spite you guys

[Nachomamma8]

But you're doing the same thing lynching him because of that -- It's not town to counter something anti-town with something also anti-town just so you can be even

I'm not lynching him because of his attitude. Never was.

[McMenno]

then what are you lynching him for

[Nachomamma8]

I haven't seen anyone solidly identify the scum motivation behind his initial claim. I mean, someone tried. Like, he "claims PR" when his wagon builds pressure. Then he doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live. Fast forward to now. He still doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live.

He claimed vaguely confirmable town role when his wagon had pressure mounting. The scum motivation behind this should be obvious; if it doesn't let me know. The point where he should have hardclaimed was after his additional crumbs, which ended up falling in place in a way that doesn't make sense (do you think that his role makes so much as a tiny bit of sense?); the reason why he doesn't counterclaim here and instead goes "fuck you you're all terrible" is because he has nothing to claim. If he was really disappointed about getting lynched today, then he would have claimed long ago; if this situation was solved as simply as "he claims his role", then I'm sure it would have been solved by now.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Nacho you're more experienced than to be tunneling like this on a noob I'm disappointed.

[Zachstralkita]

I suppose it's assumed that I gain something from defending gerry, but I don't. I would just rather lynch scum. drealmerz was right when he said shorter days were better.

He's only acting like that because he wants to spite you guys

So what makes you think he's actually going to help us out later?
He's going to continue doing his own thing and there are zero indications he will play with the town's well-being in mind.

Then that sounds like a policy lynch and not a I want to kill scum lynch, which is the favored lynch day 1.




My answer is that clearly the following days aren't going to be like today in regard to gerry. I don't see him playing the way he has today.

I haven't seen anyone solidly identify the scum motivation behind his initial claim. I mean, someone tried. Like, he "claims PR" when his wagon builds pressure. Then he doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live. Fast forward to now. He still doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live.

He claimed vaguely confirmable town role when his wagon had pressure mounting. The scum motivation behind this should be obvious; if it doesn't let me know. The point where he should have hardclaimed was after his additional crumbs, which ended up falling in place in a way that doesn't make sense (do you think that his role makes so much as a tiny bit of sense?); the reason why he doesn't counterclaim here and instead goes "fuck you you're all terrible" is because he has nothing to claim. If he was really disappointed about getting lynched today, then he would have claimed long ago; if this situation was solved as simply as "he claims his role", then I'm sure it would have been solved by now.

As long as you're accepting that it's really dumb and stupid scum play on his part, yeah.

I think he would at least attempt to think.

[Nachomamma8]

What part of my push on him is unreasonable?

[Zachstralkita]

imo you have to assume his incompetence to a certain degree for the scum motivation to be there

[Zachstralkita]

I'd rather not prolong this day I've pretty much said all I can either now or before

so either speedlynch someone else or continue if I'm not changing anything

[Nachomamma8]

imo you have to assume his incompetence to a certain degree for the scum motivation to be there

and i don't have to assume incompetence for town play here?

[gerryoat]

Like, if I stab out Gerry tonight no one should complain because while he may be town his projected usefulness is near 0% and I don't want him anywhere near endgame.

Unvote, Vote: Creature

dont do that, you're better off lynching me.

[Andrius]

Then that sounds like a policy lynch and not a I want to kill scum lynch, which is the favored lynch day 1.My answer is that clearly the following days aren't going to be like today in regard to gerry. I don't see him playing the way he has today.

Nah, I still think the chances of him being scum hiding behind this and the bevvy of players being all HIS ATTITUDE MAKES HIM TOWN are decent. Scum lynch always preferred.

And I don't see anything that will change how he plays. Will he wake up tomorrow with a better attitude? Is someone going to target him with a GET A BETTER ATTITUDE action? No.

[Andrius]

Like, if I stab out Gerry tonight no one should complain because while he may be town his projected usefulness is near 0% and I don't want him anywhere near endgame.

Unvote, Vote: Creature

dont do that, you're better off lynching me.

THE HELL IS THIS

[gerryoat]

I'm fine with being lynched, but vigging is bad. trust me

[Nachomamma8]

and at this point yeah i'm fighting a losing battle and yeah i'm probably voting creature by the end of it but I'd love if by the end of the day one person can give me a reason for him being town that makes sense

[Zachstralkita]

Then that sounds like a policy lynch and not a I want to kill scum lynch, which is the favored lynch day 1.My answer is that clearly the following days aren't going to be like today in regard to gerry. I don't see him playing the way he has today.

Nah, I still think the chances of him being scum hiding behind this and the bevvy of players being all HIS ATTITUDE MAKES HIM TOWN are decent.

WHO ARE ALL THESE PLAYERS

WHO ARE THEY

NAME THEM IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER

[Andrius]

I'm fine with being lynched, but vigging is bad. trust me

Man I said I wanted to vig you and then Zack reminded me he was alive.