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MOI gives me crap about my entrance to D2.
Wgeurts does a similar
lamentation post and promises content.
Wgeurts
proclaims Doom town. I hate when people do this. If they are town they should not be this sure of another players alignment.
Why so sure wgeurts?
Revan gives a
flippant response to my question about his Hans vote.
Doom does a similar
lamentation post. Offers opinion that game will suck if MOI is somehow scum (why can't he be scum Doom?). Gives sane assessment of the Sesq vengekill.
Wgeurts tells Doom he would have venge-killed Revan instead of Sesq.
Doom offers up possibility that
MOI could be scum more so than wgeurts.
moz didn't like my D2 post. I know too much. He votes me and apologizes to Sesq.
Doom puts down his
masterfully breadcrumbed fake vote on MOI. (mmhmm).
moz immediately comes to "very fucking town" MOI's defense.
Lucca wifom town reads MOI for his D1 mislynch theory. Agrees with me about the FC wagon but shades me for it. ??
Makes some good points IMO wrt UD.
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moz states a scum pool of: UD, Lucca, Hans, Revan and Fitz. (I object to the Lucca and Fitz reads btw) By subtraction...this means the moz town pool is: MOI, Doom, wgeurts and moz.
moz says UD is actually null town for
Post 491. wtf? So moz scum pool is now Lucca, Hans, Revan and Fitz. (I object to the Lucca and Fitz reads btw) Wait...lucca is townish...so moz s.pool = Hans, Revan and Fitz.
moz says
my ISO is quite strong.... So less sure of me as scum. Leaving Hans and Revan (the super bussers?) and someone not in his pool of three?
Revan points out the bussing conundrum he would present if paired with Hans. (So?)
UD
shades wgeurts a little. Just a teensy bit. Nothing to be alarmed about.....
Hans questions the moz confident townread on Doom. Good question.
Good UD posting.
Oh darn...
the Doom MOI vote gambit didn't work out. And also...have some shade wgeurts.
UD thinking Revan is good scum candidate.
@Revan....why is attacking your attacker a bad thing if you think your attacker is scum?
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moz backtracks on his "confirmed town" sentiments towards Doom when questioned on it. Oh...and MOI is awesome town too. coughcoughbuddybuddybuddycough
moz can't provide counter to MOI's tr on Hans.
@moz...wouldn't the aversion to being the hammer on a mislynch be a good reason for scum to accidentally hammer? smh
@moz...you say you think Revan is scum but you have yet to put a vote on Revan up to this point in the game. ????????
@moz...I don't even know what you are trying to say here....perhaps it will be addressed later in my re-read.
@moz...why does this scenario where you conclude that Hans is scum not also work the other way and come to the conclusion Revan is scum?
Doom votes me and reveals worst breadcrumb in MS history.
Hans starts the meta dialogue with me and MOI. zzzzzzzzz
moz wants to know if MOI is being a twat.
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Good UD posting. Suspects Revan and moz.
Revan...because he's
not townreading you. Duh. Looking forward to your analysis.
wgeurts sighting...sans content.
moz accuses Hans of AtE (not seeing it) and asks for opinions on Hans and MoI (too bad there is not a player named Frans in this game).
Hans on D1 seemed like lynchbait (along with FC and perhaps Sesq). On D1 I don't mind so much getting it wrong to eliminate a weak player who is also a bit suspect (i.e. FC)....but I think Hans has been posting better since D1 and atm I lean town towards him. Same lean atm with MOI. He went to a lot of trouble to present his suspicions towards people on D1 (though results were not good) and has been fairly active and pushed his suspects. That is typically townish behavior IMO. Though also IMO is that I suspect MOI is a capable enough player to try and look the same way when he is scum. And why is he still in the game? Why a Hawk DV over a more experienced player...especially one putting in a lot of effort like MOI is. So my gut says MOI is town but my paranoia says he could be scum playing people like a fiddle. I would not vote either of them today. Also and OBTW...I do not think I would consider voting lucca today and prooooooooooooooooobably not wgeurts either. Though D1 wgeurts was more town IMO than D2 wgeurts has been iirc. Though that might be absence related.
Good lucca posting. Aside from the "statement of fact" that MOI is town. If you are town there are no guarantees in this game. Like your read on me at the end of this post...."probably town". That shows a little doubt at least (I am btw). I'll get to my reads list at the end of this post.
Why are you asking me about Hawk?
Also...when you do these long posts can you reference the poster's name and not just link to post numbers when you have a question towards someone? I'm not going to click on every link to a post unless it's addressed to me or wrt a player I'm interested in.
@lucca...I lean town on MOI as well...but how can you definitively anoint him town without some shred of doubt? Is MOI a crap scum player who posts completely differently than he does when he is town?
tl:dr;
confidence is suspect.
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Annnnnd Revan is v/LA. So much for that analysis he mentioned in his last post.
lol...and MOI calls him out two posts later.
And Hans surprisingly comes to Revan's v/LA defense a little. If they are both scummy lynchbait buddies bussing each other I am going to applaud them win or lose after this game.
@lucca...If you can't see Hans and moz being scum together then would you vote Doom today? He's 3rd from the bottom of your reads list.
@moz...after accusing Hans (poorly) of AtE he breaks out the AtE on his own behalf. And he only has 1 vote on him at this point. /confusing/
In this post Doom continues to talk about his MOI vote gambit and crappy breadcrumb. And
professes his love fo
.....and states that MOI HAS GOT TO BE TOWN! [my caps] Did I mention confidence is suspect.
Doom......how is MOI's scum game different to his town game?
Oh wait...it might be a secret personal full-proof tell. Any light you can shine on the assertion would be appreciated.
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In this post UD defends themselves, I think fairly well, against lucca suspicions.
In this post moz gives the town a little pep talk. Has moz been the most active in the game? Producing a lot of quality content? idnr....
In this post moz does not give a very convincing answer to questions from MOI.
At this point I am not liking moz or Revan...which makes me less suspect of UD then I was becoming. Unless there is just a shitload of bussing/shading going on between scum partners. Granted...UD hasn't voted Revan once and the one time they did put a vote on moz....the votes were reset due to the Hawk kill and afterwards they did not return a vote on to moz. So maybe........... Bussing without teeth.
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@moz...in the post prior to this you give one of the reasons you are town reading Revan as the fact he is voting Hans. You then proceed in this post to point out some things about Hans that you find towny. And you unvote him.
If you are wavering in your suspicions towards Hans...wouldn't that decrease your town read on Revan...which is now based on an unsubstantiated "he sounds more honest" assessment from you?
And OBTW....you pressure vote lucca from left field. lol..... Why not pressure me? Or wgeurts? Or Doom? Or not pressure vote and actually vote a suspect....if you have any.
@lucca...this is how I was recommending you link to other player's posts. Disregard my earlier request.
@UD...gut is a thing. If it's always wrong it sucks of course but if you've had some success with it...and in the absence of solid scum tells/suspects....I don't hate when people refer to using their gut. If it happened all the time I would hate it but not in moderation. Annnnnnd in your next post you confirm your suspicions towards Revan who you have yet to actually vote. ???
@MoI...I found this post to be awfully full of yourself. Probably the least town thing I've seen you do (other than your earlier issues with me of course). Why would you presume that you'd be day-vigged while you were on v/LA? This just feels like a big WIFOM pie in the face. ex. Look guys...I'm obviously town and could be killed this weekend so here's what you should do if that happens. And of course nothing happens. whew...dodged that bullet. At least we had your last will and testament. lol......
@Hans...Great points towards UD. And wrt your following post wrt MOI...I do not think he was suggesting he would die by way of lynch. He's suggesting that scum would DV him. Cause he's uber-town. And also...moz is L-3...not L-2 (at this point anyway).
@Doom...I wouldn't categorize UD's FC hammer a quickhammer. iirc we were within reasonable range of the end of day (at least I think we were....). It didn't feel like a QH to me at least. It felt more like a lolhmmer. An oops.....my bad. A hey...this isn't a hammer...this is just an L-1 vote so be careful....wha wha what!!!? And so at this point in the day you fyi us all that you aren't sure what you are doing and you're supposed to re-evaluate your reads? You haven't been doing that since D2 started? WTF?
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@Doom...I don't think Revan voting Hawk is AI. Revan is still scummy IMO but the fact he had the lone vote on Hawk at the time of Hawk's death doesn't mean anything IMO. More importantly would be where Hawk's votes/suspicions were. Combined I would assume with a desire to perhaps reset vote counts to eliminate a wagon on a scum player. Moz was the only other player with any heat on him at the DV point. Doom had had a fairly large wagon (L-3) a bit earlier but was in no danger att. So DVA seems of no value IMO.
A Revan sighting...Hans is better...UD is worse. moz is town. gtk. So why is your vote still on Hans?
@lucca...WTF? "yeah Doom is town?" smh head. He could be....but how do you know that so confidently? Though in hindsight....675 was a pretty good post. Leaning Doom town seems fair. But no locks please.
A wgeurts sighting...more to follow.
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@moz...so despite my
quite nice ISO I am still in your scum pool. Rev is still there (despite no vote ever) and now joined by UD and wgeurts. But your focus is on me and UD. Got it.
UD votes moz and MOI has no townreads...
UD is scum.
Annnd Hans unvotes moz. Does a Hans moz combo work?
