~laundry~ FIN

[Andrius]

See this just sounds like bull to me.
If I'm like Nacho you're scum.
And you're like, 'Andy you're off'. I'd be like what no. That's got to be the easiest way to deflect.

I mean if you were like ANDY MY (insert family member here) JUST DIED AND I AM SO OFF YOU HAVE NO IDEA I'd be like YEAH ACTUALLY I DO HAVE AN IDEA.
But if you just go 'no you're off' then that's nothing to me.

I was referring to the distinction in telling me that I was wrong as opposed to taking it as an attack on you as a person.

I may not be reading this 100% because I'm not entirely sure what you're asking.

But I think my issue with it lies in the there's no way out of that ravine - all you're doing is leading to a 'I think you're wrong' 'No I'm not' but without BECAUSE's or HOW/WHYs this cannot get anywhere.

[Tammy]

I still don't but gerrys role as he's claiming it. I do not think there is a role in the game that confirms or semi confirms people to each other.

He needs to fully out his role.

[Andrius]

im maf trying to push a mislynch

I've got nothing for this.

[Andrius]

I disagree because Masons and Brothers and Friendly Neighbors all exist.
Seeking Masons make a lot of sense for A PAIR OF SOCKS or something. This is the type of thing that SpyreX would be giddy over. Masons are strong but if the need to seek each other that helps. Maybe throw in a traitor and really ham up the seeking vibes in-thread?

[drealmerz7]

I'm giddy over it, this is just not the time for it

[Nachomamma8]

Which is, frankly, a stupid thing to put into role pms but whatever it doesn't add anything to the game and basically encourages spam/shit/empty posting as EP realized because he TOLD US NOT TO SPAM POST THE WORDS.

This is more of a slight to EP than anyone else; he's saying that the minigame itself is encouraging spam posting and is encouraging empty posting. He feels that you're interacting with people for the sake of interacting and he feels that you're padding your posts with moist in order to increase post count.

I don't think it's personal as much as it is ridiculous.

[Nachomamma8]

but without BECAUSE's or HOW/WHYs this cannot get anywhere.

I absolutely agree with this.
But we're also not getting anywhere if you don't understand the intent behind my posting.

[Tammy]

I disagree because Masons and Brothers and Friendly Neighbors all exist.
Seeking Masons make a lot of sense for A PAIR OF SOCKS or something. This is the type of thing that SpyreX would be giddy over. Masons are strong but if the need to seek each other that helps. Maybe throw in a traitor and really ham up the seeking vibes in-thread?

They exist.

I do not believe he has that role.

[gerryoat]

I still don't but gerrys role as he's claiming it. I do not think there is a role in the game that confirms or semi confirms people to each other.

He needs to fully out his role.

no

[Nachomamma8]

how many votes on creature

He's at L-1.

[Tammy]

Which is, frankly, a stupid thing to put into role pms but whatever it doesn't add anything to the game and basically encourages spam/shit/empty posting as EP realized because he TOLD US NOT TO SPAM POST THE WORDS.

This is more of a slight to EP than anyone else; he's saying that the minigame itself is encouraging spam posting and is encouraging empty posting. He feels that you're interacting with people for the sake of interacting and he feels that you're padding your posts with moist in order to increase post count.

I don't think it's personal as much as it is ridiculous.

No he doesn't. It's personal but go kiss his ass.

[drealmerz7]

I think it is scummy fabrication of an issue (andrius and his issue with the minigame)

[gerryoat]

anyway my reason for scumreading creature is from past experience from memory

[Nachomamma8]

Which is, frankly, a stupid thing to put into role pms but whatever it doesn't add anything to the game and basically encourages spam/shit/empty posting as EP realized because he TOLD US NOT TO SPAM POST THE WORDS.

This is more of a slight to EP than anyone else; he's saying that the minigame itself is encouraging spam posting and is encouraging empty posting. He feels that you're interacting with people for the sake of interacting and he feels that you're padding your posts with moist in order to increase post count.

I don't think it's personal as much as it is ridiculous.

No he doesn't. It's personal but go kiss his ass.

That's not what's happening here.

[Nachomamma8]

anyway my reason for scumreading creature is from past experience from memory

so he looks similar to what game?
why? because he's been beetlejuicing a lot?

[Tammy]

I'm literally THE ONLY PETSON he gave the smack down on for enjoying the game and pointed out it was because it was me.

THATS FUCKING PERSONAL

[Creature]

I think this beetlejuicing trend needs to stop. I post if I have something to say, if someone mentions me and I post, it doesn't mean I'm scum who only appears if I feel endangered.

[Andrius]

Because Tammy was the one I was scumreading off her tone?
Is it this hard to understand?

Like if you take Tammy's posting and replace her name with [GERRYOAT, FB, Nos] it'd be entirely different.
WHO says it is key.

I really feel like there's a disconnect here but I'm ok dropping this and moving on because this is our ONLY source of contention for a number of people.

It's hard to understand because why is Tammy being playful scummy?
Why wouldn't anyone participate in the moist game scummy unless they shared your viewpoint (or why did you expect her to share it?)

It was a tone thing.
Again, I read it and basically went 'this might be scum tammy trying to blend in with the early game vibes'. The mod-provided shenanigans allow for yet another venue for people to commiserate over, sure, but its also exactly where I would expect scum to be. I see that and go 'scum are definitely going to hide in it there's no way they all sit out'. Like I would literally be ok lynching/killing every person competing for moist because there's got to be scum in there. NOT ALL, NOT MOST, NOT MANY, but at least one. Because its such a great place to hide in. Its mod-sanctioned so everyone knows about it.

No more words on that.

I think people are hung up on the WHY TAMMY THOUGH and not literally anyone else. This isn't a calculated thing.
I thought your tone was weird so I said something. FB and Maria playing games is par for the course. I don't know Fro99er but he reminds me of UT so there's automatically a threshold for bullshit involved.

There's also the key difference where I was SCUM in THE THING and thus didn't actually have to discern anyone's alignment. I just townread people for convenience's sake, bussed every scumbuddy but Magna, and townread the people who were too convenient not to TR (Tammy) or where there was a clear tactical advantage to do so (SpyreX, UT).

[Nachomamma8]

I'm literally THE ONLY PETSON he gave the smack down on for enjoying the game and pointed out it was because it was me.

THATS FUCKING PERSONAL

The reason that it was significant that it was you was because of meta expectations, not because he thought that you didn't deserve to have fun.

[Tammy]

And drealmerz right that it's a scummy fabrication of an issue because it wasn't actually an issue. I had fun in rvs, forgot later that day all about moist when trying to read and follow people's scum reads in Arthur, but his argument is a bullshit you were having fun. You no one else.

[Tammy]

I'm literally THE ONLY PETSON he gave the smack down on for enjoying the game and pointed out it was because it was me.

THATS FUCKING PERSONAL

The reason that it was significant that it was you was because of meta expectations, not because he thought that you didn't deserve to have fun.

What nets expectations? Huh? That I don't have fun?

Wtf

[Tammy]

I'm literally THE ONLY PETSON he gave the smack down on for enjoying the game and pointed out it was because it was me.

THATS FUCKING PERSONAL

The reason that it was significant that it was you was because of meta expectations, not because he thought that you didn't deserve to have fun.

And that's exactly what it is

[Andrius]

I disagree because Masons and Brothers and Friendly Neighbors all exist.
Seeking Masons make a lot of sense for A PAIR OF SOCKS or something. This is the type of thing that SpyreX would be giddy over. Masons are strong but if the need to seek each other that helps. Maybe throw in a traitor and really ham up the seeking vibes in-thread?

They exist.

I do not believe he has that role.

Most mods wouldn't do something like this because its not normal.
EP is not most mods.
SpyreX is the gold standard for design.
So I'm willing to believe something NOT NORMAL and FANCY might make it into this game.
We're allowed to disagree on this but I'm making a case for it in case I die here as the THIRD OPTION.

[Tammy]

I PROBABLY WOULDNT HAVE PISTED IN RVS BE AUSE I WAS IN BED AND WOUKDNT HAVE BEEN CHECKING TO SEE IF THE DAMN GAME OPENED VERY VERY DOUBTFULLY.

[Nachomamma8]

Again, I read it and basically went 'this might be scum tammy trying to blend in with the early game vibes'. The mod-provided shenanigans allow for yet another venue for people to commiserate over, sure, but its also exactly where I would expect scum to be. I see that and go 'scum are definitely going to hide in it there's no way they all sit out'. Like I would literally be ok lynching/killing every person competing for moist because there's got to be scum in there. NOT ALL, NOT MOST, NOT MANY, but at least one. Because its such a great place to hide in. Its mod-sanctioned so everyone knows about it.

I was hung up on it because it's something I disagree with and something I think is exceedingly silly.