526: M.A.D. Mafia II. GAME OVER.

[Flameaxe]

Ha, way to waste it on the other claimed (and almost completely confirmed as well) player. Well played.

[DragonsofSummer]

Yeah you claimed Poland and that you could shoot down nukes. In no way shape or form does that clear you as a townie. I'm not saying you are scum because of my RB, but I am saying that it is interesting that I chose to RB you and there was no death last night.

[Flameaxe]

Uhm, why shouldn't it? JDodge was saved by myself day one, no one counterclaimed me, my role of missile defense is completely confirmed.

Day one JD nuked Schis, Schis nuked JD. If I was scum, wouldn't it seem more likely that I would shoot down the missile headed for my buddy?

Also, I know the scum now.

Vote: DoS

. And yes, this is who I was thinking earlier, his last post just made it even more obvious.

[DragonsofSummer]

Its called making yourself look like a townie Flameaxe... It would be a very good trick as scum to save the townie so that later you could use it as evidence of you being town to trick the rest of the town. I feel like you're panicking here.

[Flameaxe]

Its called making yourself look like a townie Flameaxe... It would be a very good trick as scum to save the townie so that later you could use it as evidence of you being town to trick the rest of the town. I feel like you're panicking here.

I could say the same to you. Nice try, but I'm sorry to inform you that your little trap didn't get past me, for obvious reasons. I just hope comradestark and ZONEACE catch on too... Lets win this game guys.

[DragonsofSummer]

Why could you say the same to me? And what proof do you offer for me being scum? I gave a completely legitimate scenario for you being scum here, and you just keep calling me scum without any reasons or proof.

vote Flameaxe

[Flameaxe]

I was wondering when the OMGUS would pop up.

I'm not saying you are scum because of my RB, but I am saying that it is interesting that I chose to RB you and there was no death last night.

Thats why I could say the same for you. I'm gonna work on a PbPA now, because the rest of my games have stalled, and to make this choice more obvious than it already is.

After posting once edit: Fuck you mister CPU quota...fuck you!

[ZONEACE]

oy, this is so critical, its LYLO for us. If DoS is telling the truth Axe is scum. But blocking Axe seems like such a random choice. Especially since he seemed confirmed. ANd it also seems like as scum, claiming RB is an easy way to set up the game winning lynch for Mafia. I need to re-read and think about this before voting.

[Flameaxe]

oy, this is so critical, its LYLO for us.

If DoS is telling the truth Axe is scum.

But blocking Axe seems like such a random choice. Especially since he seemed confirmed. ANd it also seems like as scum, claiming RB is an easy way to set up the game winning lynch for Mafia. I need to re-read and think about this before voting.

Not necessarily. He could easily be a mafia RB, and still blocked me, while no killing to make it look bad on my part, pushing my lynch and heads to an easy win.

[Flameaxe]

PS. Halfway done with my first PbPA.

[Flameaxe]

PbPA Analysis
Focus: DragonsofSummer - Isolation
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Note: All post numbers are those in which one only views Dragonsofsummer's posts in isolation.

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Post 0: Jokepost on Stark
-No meaning.
Post 1: Unvotes Stark, moves vote to ChaosOmega
-Seems like another random vote. Keeping in mind CO is scum.
Post 2: Comments on a South Park joke given by Flameaxe. Unvotes ChaosOmega. Shows doubts of ABR's scummyness.
-Hesitant to vote ABR(T). Unvotes CO(S).
Post 3: Comments that his vote was random and not Albert.
-Hesitant to vote ABR(T).
Post 4: "YARLY"
-Need I say more?
Transition to day two.
Post 5: Comments on random voting and thinking of day two as day one.
-Post with little content. If any.
Post 6: "Random Vote"
-Little meaning. Vote on Archaist(T).
Post 7: Says Zoneace is being quieter than normal. Admits to lurking day one. Can't argue against what Schis said. Says his activity will go up.
-Noting activity comment, see Post 8.
Post 8: Doesn't have anything to say!
-Funny because his last post he promised more activity.
Post 9: Pushes the idea of a nuke launch for discussion, but won't do it himself.
-I don't like how he wants to nuke to spark discussion (even though he himself is lacking in that department), but won't do it himself. This will stay noted, see post 11.
Post 10: Replies to the nuke (that wasn't his own), hopes it starts discussion.
-Hopes for discussion, which he is still lacking.
Post 11: Claims U.S. Has

ten nukes

. One shot RB. Slips on the Zoneace wagon (Already at L-1).
-The thing that bothers me is that he has ten nukes, yet earlier he didn't want to use any because he "didn't want to waste any". If you have ten nukes, why would you worry about wasting one? Also, ten nukes seems somewhat overkill, especially with the nuclear winter number (I assume) this low. This wagon slip was scummy to say the least.
Transition to day three.
Post 12: "Not the second vote". Asks for more to refute.
-Not the second vote, the THIRD vote. Doesn't make it any better being the third vote...with three to lynch and all.
Post 13: Asks who to RB.
-Could possibly be a way to seem more protown.
Post 14: Votes no lynch.
-NL hammah.
Transition to day four.
Post 15: Who he blocked
-Blocked Flameaxe.
Post 16: Says I'm not cleared. "Flameaxe is not scum because of the RB, but its interesting that there was no kill..."
-Somewhat setting up the idea that he blocked me and "my kill", but I'm NOT scum because of it...Non-committal.
Post 17: Tries to twist Flameaxe's actions into being a scum gambit.
-Stretching.
Post 18: Goes after Flameaxe for pushing without evidence.
-Noting that he doesn't exactly have evidence either...just a supposed claim/target...
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[stark]

oy, this is so critical, its LYLO for us. If DoS is telling the truth Axe is scum. But blocking Axe seems like such a random choice. Especially since he seemed confirmed. ANd it also seems like as scum, claiming RB is an easy way to set up the game winning lynch for Mafia. I need to re-read and think about this before voting.

QFT

I'm really kind of torn between the two. Both of you have very good cases. Perhaps DoS, you want to PbPa Flameaxe?

[DragonsofSummer]

Sure, I'll Have it done by tomorrow at the latest.

[DragonsofSummer]

Post 0: "First"
-Doesn't mean anything.

Post 1: Expands on "First" and votes UA
- Random vote which is followed by a fast UA bandwagon, but it doesn't really mean anything, there is always a UA bandwagon at the beginning of games he is in.

Post 2: Unvotes, "Why vote UA when UA isn't voting UA?"
- Again means nothing.

Post 3: Votes ABR, calls him dumb
- Small nudge towards pushing an ABR lynch.

Post 4:"Because he really wants to know whether he hit a power role ahead of time duh."
- Implying that ABR is obv scum trying to gain info. Small nudge against ABR again, and attempt to look like scum hunting.

Post 5: Says he doesn't care whether ABR is town or scum and he needs to be stopped because he is dumb.
- Another push towards an ABR lynch, and a showing of he isn't my scum buddy so he needs to die.

Post 6: "Because you are ABR..."
- Flat out says he is trying to get ABR lynched, as well as pushes the lynch again.

Post 7: "No."
-Arguing with ABR.

Post 8: If ABR isn't bluffing he would be in hammer range.
- Pushes an ABR lynch again.

Post 9:Says there is a nuke headed for ABR and Flay.
- Crazy nuke fest threw everyone off, but no nuke actually headed for ABR.

Post 10: "Touche."
-Means nothing. Responding to Zoneace.

Post 11: Commenting on Schis being called Shitz.
- Means nothing

Post 12: "Die is a much better option guys."
- Pushes the ABR wagon again.

Post 13: "You nuked imagination land."
-Means nothing. Joke reason for shooting down Schis's nukes.

Post 14: Could be imaginationlands defenses.
- Continues jokes. (I'll speak on all of this in a little bit.)

Post 15: "And your reasoning being...?"
- Comenting on ABR figuring out that he protected JDodge.

Post 16: "Orly?"
- Means nothing.

Post 17: Quotes himself.
- Trying to get his question answered.

Post 18: Says ABR sucks at life.
- Another push towards lynching ABR.

Post 19: Says vote count will explain whether ABR is dead or not.
- Responding to Zoneace. Has no real bearing on anything.

Post 20: Corrects vote count.
- Means nothing.

Post 21: Joke post about Douchebaggery.
- Means nothing.

Post 22: Picture of Phoenix Wright joke post.
- Means nothing.

Post 23: "Yay."
- Commenting on the fact that Schis is scum.

Thats day one. He pushes hard for an ABR lynch, and around post 9 when his posts become less and less serious I feel like he realized he is pushing too hard and so went and only pushed for the ABR lynch sparingly for the rest of the day with a lot of posts that meant absolutely nothing and distracted the rest of the town.

Post 24: "Gonna reread and look at Schis interactions. Wee."
- Attempt to look like scum hunting.

Post 25: Greeting Stark with a joke post.
- Means nothing.

Post 26: Reacts to being voted with a joke and votes Archaist.
- Joins the Archaist bandwagon, and adds no content.

Post 27: Questions Archaist voting me based on schis.
- Slight push towards the Archaist wagon.

Post 28: "Lurking being used as a scumtell always makes me lawl."
- Comments on the stupidity of lurking being used to prove scum.

Post 29: Says no one rereads on purpose. Claims a lot of people knew ABR was town (implying he was one of them) but that ABR needed to be lynched anyway.
- Never did the reread he said he would and admits it. Lynched ABR even though he knew ABR was town.

Post 30: "Saying != doing." Says to meta better.
- Responding to the fact that he hadn't done the reread promised.

Post 31: Says he reread, and there were no interactions with alive players.
- Means nothing.

Post 32: Tells Archaist to look at the pattern in Schis' nukes.
- Means nothing, and puts Archaist in a bad light.

Post 33: Comments on ABR again.
-means nothing at this point.

Post 34: Joke post about launching more nukes.
- means nothing.

Post 35: "Post."
-Means nothing.

Post 36: Responds to UA. UA said UA should launch a nuke.
- Attempt to start discussion, but means very little.

Post 37: "Well a deadline threat didn't work."
- Means nothing.

Post 38: "It will be a superior reaction test. More at 10."
- Means nothing, and responds to nothing.

Post 39: Agrees with Zoneace.
-Push for Archaist again. Says he wants a claim.

Post 40: Argues with Archaist about claiming when at L-1.
- Attempts to put Archaist in a bad light.

Post 41: "Flavor claims, go go go."
- Pushing Archaist for more info.

Post 42: "Teehee."
- Means nothing.

Post 43: Responds to ChaosOmega's nuke.
- Means very little except that he is pissed he was being nuked.

Post 44: Claims he shot down the nukes headed at JDodge.
- Beginning of his claim.

Post 45: "I need a mini slot."
- Means nothing.

Post 46: Comment on CO trying to take him out with him.
- Trying to implant the idea of Flameaxe is town in everyone's mind.

Post 47: Asks if its safe to say UA is town.
- Means very little.

Post 48: "Gah I was hoping for a free mini slot and everything."
- Reaction to CO not having any nukes.

This is the end of day two. He spent a lot of day two joking and adding very little to anything.

Post 49: Votes Zoneace
- Tactic switching perhaps.

Post 50: "Who is this BBR person?"
- Means nothing.

Post 51: He claims Poland.
- Never says whether he is town or scum.

Post 52: Calls ZA dumb, says UA is basically confirmed.
- Push toward ZA lynch.

Post 53: Arguing with ZA. Throws my name out as potential scum, and asks Zoneace why he isn't scum.
- Just continuing his argument with ZA trying to throw him in a bad light.

Post 54: Questions ZA nuking with a moderately high radiation level.
- Pushing ZA into an even worse light.

Post 55: Comments on his ability being a one shot and so he can't use it on ZA's nukes.
-Pushing toward ZA even more.

Post 56: Says ZA is obv scum.
- Pushes a ZA lynch again.

Post 57: Tells no one else to nuke.
- He thinks one more nuke will cause nuclear winter.

Post 58: Questions ZA's claim.
- Puts ZA into a bad light again, and pushes for a ZA lynch.

Post 59: "Also, where is DoS? He needs to be here during this swarm of activity."
- Changes topics, and brings me up again.

Post 60: Shows the weakness of ZA's arguments again.
- Still pushing a ZA lynch.

Post 61: Says he forgot to claim that he has no nukes.
- Still doesn't say he is protown.

Post 62: Goes back to arguing with ZA.
-Still pushing hard against ZA.

Post 63: Still arguing with ZA.

Post 64: "We lynch Zoneace scum and claim a town win, clearly."
- Flat out says lynch ZA.

Post 65: Argues against Zoneace again.
- Another push for a ZA lynch.

Post 66: Continues attacking ZA.

Post 67: Still pushing against ZA.

Post 68: Brings me up again, and continues pushing against ZA.

Post 69: Pushing against ZA still.

Post 70: Still pushing.

Post 71: unvote
- I show up and he unvotes as soon as I agree with him.

Post 72: Bashes ZA again.

Post 73: Reminds everyone that the scum were given safe claims in the original MAD mafia.
- Attempt to appear helpful.

Post 74: Bashes ZA again.

Post 75: Says ZA is going to call him obv scum, but has an idea.
-Again tries to appear helpful.

Post 76: Questions ZA more.

Post 77: Asks who is the scum.
-Means very little.

Post 78: Votes no lynch.
-Wants to get to a new day with one less person he has to convince.

Post 79: Responding to my question.
- Means very little.

Post 80: "I agree."
- Means nothing.

Post 81: Says he has an idea who the scum might be...
- Trying to keep everyone in suspense without tipping his hand.

Post 82: "In due time."
-Very unwilling to say who he thinks is scum.

Post 83: Says he is waiting for me to say who I blocked before revealing his idea for who is scum.

Post 84: Says I wasted my roleblock on a confirmed player.
- Still has never made a statement of being a part of the town, and fails to realize that being a confirmed role doesn't mean that he is protown.

Post 85: Says his role is confirmed, and says that he is sure I'm scum and I am the one he suspected.
- Uses a weak argument to prove himself protown. Also without ever mentioning me as a possible scum suspect before now that I am pushing him decides I am the obvious scum.

Post 86: Says I am trying to trap him, and that it won't work for obvious reasons.
- continues using weak arguments against me.

Post 87: Says he was wondering where the omgus was. Claims that I am panicking because I wasn't going to call him scum just because of the RB.
- I will explain all of this right here. I was not certain that Flameaxe was scum, but I was choosing between him and ZA for my RB choice last night. Even when a death didn't come back I still thought he might be town because scum could choose not to kill to make me think that he was scum from the RB. His reaction to my revealing my RB target is what makes me sure he is scum.

Post 88: Makes an argument for me being a mafia RB.
- The first good argument he has made against me, but it is not backed up by anything.

Post 89: Says he is half way done with his pbpa.

Post 90: His pbpa of me.




All post numbers are his in isolation.

[Flameaxe]

Post 87: Says he was wondering where the omgus was. Claims that I am panicking because I wasn't going to call him scum just because of the RB.

Hooray for blatant misunderstanding! Yaaaay!

[Flameaxe]

Time for replies.

Post 0: "First"
-Doesn't mean anything.

Post 1: Expands on "First" and votes UA
- Random vote which is followed by a fast UA bandwagon, but it doesn't really mean anything, there is always a UA bandwagon at the beginning of games he is in.

Post 2: Unvotes, "Why vote UA when UA isn't voting UA?"
- Again means nothing.

Post 3: Votes ABR, calls him dumb
- Small nudge towards pushing an ABR lynch.

Post 4:"Because he really wants to know whether he hit a power role ahead of time duh."
- Implying that ABR is obv scum trying to gain info. Small nudge against ABR again, and attempt to look like scum hunting.

Post 5: Says he doesn't care whether ABR is town or scum and he needs to be stopped because he is dumb.
- Another push towards an ABR lynch, and a showing of he isn't my scum buddy so he needs to die.

Post 6: "Because you are ABR..."
- Flat out says he is trying to get ABR lynched, as well as pushes the lynch again.

Post 7: "No."
-Arguing with ABR.

Post 8: If ABR isn't bluffing he would be in hammer range.
- Pushes an ABR lynch again.

Post 9:Says there is a nuke headed for ABR and Flay.
- Crazy nuke fest threw everyone off, but no nuke actually headed for ABR.

Post 10: "Touche."
-Means nothing. Responding to Zoneace.

Post 11: Commenting on Schis being called Shitz.
- Means nothing

Post 12: "Die is a much better option guys."
- Pushes the ABR wagon again.

Post 13: "You nuked imagination land."
-Means nothing. Joke reason for shooting down Schis's nukes.

Post 14: Could be imaginationlands defenses.
- Continues jokes. (I'll speak on all of this in a little bit.)

Post 15: "And your reasoning being...?"
- Comenting on ABR figuring out that he protected JDodge.

Post 16: "Orly?"
- Means nothing.

Post 17: Quotes himself.
- Trying to get his question answered.

Post 18: Says ABR sucks at life.
- Another push towards lynching ABR.

Post 19: Says vote count will explain whether ABR is dead or not.
- Responding to Zoneace. Has no real bearing on anything.

Post 20: Corrects vote count.
- Means nothing.

Post 21: Joke post about Douchebaggery.
- Means nothing.

Post 22: Picture of Phoenix Wright joke post.
- Means nothing.

Post 23: "Yay."
- Commenting on the fact that Schis is scum.

Thats day one. He pushes hard for an ABR lynch, and around post 9 when his posts become less and less serious I feel like he realized he is pushing too hard and so went and only pushed for the ABR lynch sparingly for the rest of the day with a lot of posts that meant absolutely nothing and distracted the rest of the town.

I have no remorse for pushing the ABR lynch. Just see how his nuke turned out, thats exactly the reasoning behind my justification of it.

Post 24: "Gonna reread and look at Schis interactions. Wee."
- Attempt to look like scum hunting.

Except is is helpful...Picking at straws

Post 25: Greeting Stark with a joke post.
- Means nothing.

Post 26: Reacts to being voted with a joke and votes Archaist.
- Joins the Archaist bandwagon, and adds no content.

Post 27: Questions Archaist voting me based on schis.
- Slight push towards the Archaist wagon.

Post 28: "Lurking being used as a scumtell always makes me lawl."
- Comments on the stupidity of lurking being used to prove scum.

Because it is stupid.

Post 29: Says no one rereads on purpose. Claims a lot of people knew ABR was town (implying he was one of them) but that ABR needed to be lynched anyway.
- Never did the reread he said he would and admits it. Lynched ABR even though he knew ABR was town.

I never knew ABR was town. Keep picking away buddy.

Post 30: "Saying != doing." Says to meta better.
- Responding to the fact that he hadn't done the reread promised.

Post 31: Says he reread, and there were no interactions with alive players.
- Means nothing.

Post 32: Tells Archaist to look at the pattern in Schis' nukes.
- Means nothing, and puts Archaist in a bad light.

How?

Post 33: Comments on ABR again.
-means nothing at this point.

Post 34: Joke post about launching more nukes.
- means nothing.

Post 35: "Post."
-Means nothing.

Post 36: Responds to UA. UA said UA should launch a nuke.
- Attempt to start discussion, but means very little.

Post 37: "Well a deadline threat didn't work."
- Means nothing.

Post 38: "It will be a superior reaction test. More at 10."
- Means nothing, and responds to nothing.

Harhar, you think that.

Post 39: Agrees with Zoneace.
-Push for Archaist again. Says he wants a claim.

L-1 does that to people you know.

Post 40: Argues with Archaist about claiming when at L-1.
- Attempts to put Archaist in a bad light.

No, trying to show Archaist the pro-town way to play, which he conveniently...didn't. Refusing to claim as pro-town power? Really?

Post 41: "Flavor claims, go go go."
- Pushing Archaist for more info.

Post 42: "Teehee."
- Means nothing.

Post 43: Responds to ChaosOmega's nuke.
- Means very little except that he is pissed he was being nuked.

I was actually happy. I need more mini slots. I was pissed that it was a bluff.

Post 44: Claims he shot down the nukes headed at JDodge.
- Beginning of his claim.

Post 45: "I need a mini slot."
- Means nothing.

See above.

Post 46: Comment on CO trying to take him out with him.
- Trying to implant the idea of Flameaxe is town in everyone's mind.

Because I am, diescumdie.

Post 47: Asks if its safe to say UA is town.
- Means very little.

It means a shitload. I highly doubted that UA would pull a bus of that magnitude, thus putting him in a nearly pro-town confirmed position, which Zoneace completely ignored.

Post 48: "Gah I was hoping for a free mini slot and everything."
- Reaction to CO not having any nukes.

See above.

This is the end of day two. He spent a lot of day two joking and adding very little to anything.

Post 49: Votes Zoneace
- Tactic switching perhaps.

Post 50: "Who is this BBR person?"
- Means nothing.

It means get my fucking name right damnit!

Post 51: He claims Poland.
- Never says whether he is town or scum.

Post 52: Calls ZA dumb, says UA is basically confirmed.
- Push toward ZA lynch.

Post 53: Arguing with ZA. Throws my name out as potential scum, and asks Zoneace why he isn't scum.
- Just continuing his argument with ZA trying to throw him in a bad light.

Can you explain how this argument wasn't helpful at all? I got plenty of information out of it.

Post 54: Questions ZA nuking with a moderately high radiation level.
- Pushing ZA into an even worse light.

Because he played foolishly, and I would hope ZA knows this.

Post 55: Comments on his ability being a one shot and so he can't use it on ZA's nukes.
-Pushing toward ZA even more.

Post 56: Says ZA is obv scum.
- Pushes a ZA lynch again.

Post 57: Tells no one else to nuke.
- He thinks one more nuke will cause nuclear winter.

Better to not take risks right?

Post 58: Questions ZA's claim.
- Puts ZA into a bad light again, and pushes for a ZA lynch.

Post 59: "Also, where is DoS? He needs to be here during this swarm of activity."
- Changes topics, and brings me up again.

Sorry for trying to let you lurk to victory, scum.

Post 60: Shows the weakness of ZA's arguments again.
- Still pushing a ZA lynch.

Wouldn't showing the weakness of someone's arguments...be a

good thing?

Post 61: Says he forgot to claim that he has no nukes.
- Still doesn't say he is protown.

Wow, keep grasping at those straws buddy. It's funny.

Post 62: Goes back to arguing with ZA.
-Still pushing hard against ZA.

Post 63: Still arguing with ZA.

Post 64: "We lynch Zoneace scum and claim a town win, clearly."
- Flat out says lynch ZA.

Post 65: Argues against Zoneace again.
- Another push for a ZA lynch.

You see, all of the above are what we call meaningful discussion, which you don't have in this game.

Post 66: Continues attacking ZA.

Post 67: Still pushing against ZA.

Post 68: Brings me up again, and continues pushing against ZA.

Stop avoiding the discussion and I wouldn't have to bring you up.

Post 69: Pushing against ZA still.

Post 70: Still pushing.

Post 71: unvote
- I show up and he unvotes as soon as I agree with him.

I unvoted because your vote was severely opportunistic, and reeked of scummy behavior. In the case that Zoneace's nuke was a bluff, he would have been lynched, right there. Just because you agree with me doesn't mean I completely lost all opinion of ZA.

Post 72: Bashes ZA again.

Post 73: Reminds everyone that the scum were given safe claims in the original MAD mafia.
- Attempt to appear helpful.

Exactly how is this not helpful? If something happened in MAD1, its bound to happen again. Straw grasping

Post 74: Bashes ZA again.

Post 75: Says ZA is going to call him obv scum, but has an idea.
-Again tries to appear helpful.

Post 76: Questions ZA more.

Post 77: Asks who is the scum.
-Means very little.

Take a joke buddy.

Post 78: Votes no lynch.
-Wants to get to a new day with one less person he has to convince.

Right...Nice way to try and put me in a bad light. WHO DO I SOUND LIKE GUIZ?!!ONEONE

Post 79: Responding to my question.
- Means very little.

Responding means nothing! Ok, I'll stop doing it then.

Post 80: "I agree."
- Means nothing.

Post 81: Says he has an idea who the scum might be...
- Trying to keep everyone in suspense without tipping his hand.

Putting me in a bad light, when clearly that was not my intention. Only two of us had checked in at that point.

Post 82: "In due time."
-Very unwilling to say who he thinks is scum.

Bad light again, I was waiting for yourself to stop being inactive and shit.

Post 83: Says he is waiting for me to say who I blocked before revealing his idea for who is scum.

I was waiting for you to say anything...

Post 84: Says I wasted my roleblock on a confirmed player.
- Still has never made a statement of being a part of the town, and fails to realize that being a confirmed role doesn't mean that he is protown.

Still grasping at straws.

Post 85: Says his role is confirmed, and says that he is sure I'm scum and I am the one he suspected.
- Uses a weak argument to prove himself protown. Also without ever mentioning me as a possible scum suspect before now that I am pushing him decides I am the obvious scum.

I'm not trying to prove myself pro-town here. I'm proving you scum, proving myself pro-town in the process. Also, misunderstanding. I don't think you are scum because you are going after me, I am going after you because I saw through your claim. It was a nice try, but a complete failure on your part.

Post 86: Says I am trying to trap him, and that it won't work for obvious reasons.
- continues using weak arguments against me.

Weak huh? Its a completely logical argument, especially when your argument is no better.

Post 87: Says he was wondering where the omgus was. Claims that I am panicking because I wasn't going to call him scum just because of the RB.
- I will explain all of this right here. I was not certain that Flameaxe was scum, but I was choosing between him and ZA for my RB choice last night. Even when a death didn't come back I still thought he might be town because scum could choose not to kill to make me think that he was scum from the RB. His reaction to my revealing my RB target is what makes me sure he is scum.

I kinda commented on this, but here we go. I never claimed you are panicking, you claimed I was. I reacted in a logical way to your RB, and I saw scum trying to get out of the hole they dug them self into.

Post 88: Makes an argument for me being a mafia RB.
- The first good argument he has made against me, but it is not backed up by anything.

Blatant lie to make his case look more appealing to teenagers! Smoking is bad guys. Don't do it. Also, none of his arguments (still) are not backed up by anything.

Post 89: Says he is half way done with his pbpa.

I lied, I was only 1/4 done.

Post 90: His pbpa of me.

In which I show exactly how you are scum. Die. Scum. Die.

All post numbers are his in isolation.

This case is weak at best. His strongest points are straw pickers and complete misunderstandings, bordering complete stupidity. This should be a very easy choice, join me comrade...TO VICTORY!

and the destruction of capitalism...

[DragonsofSummer]

Flameaxe the posts that say means very little, or means nothing just mean it has no bearing on the argument I'm making, or had nothing to do with the game. It didn't mean that it actually meant nothing.

[Flameaxe]

Then its helpful to say that...Also, for a lot of them: Context is cool.

[stark]

I think I'm starting to lean towards Flameaxe, but I'm going to abstain from voting until we hear from Zoneace.

[ZONEACE]

yeah Im here, but not here enough to do a thorough read thru til tomorrow or so

[Flameaxe]

I think I'm starting to lean towards Flameaxe, but I'm going to abstain from voting until we hear from Zoneace.

Lean towards me being scum or believing me? Because if you think I'm scum, you're in for some hot juicy losing.

[stark]

Lol, I believe you man.


Fungo.

We just wait for tomorrow then.

[Flameaxe]

Fungo is correct, Comrade. No really...it is.

[Yosarian2]

It's Christmas at Ground Zero VOTE COUNT:

1 Dragon of Summer: Flameaxe
1 Flameaxe: Dragon of Summer
Not voting: Stark, Zoneace

With 4 alive, 3 votes to lynch

[stark]

Flameaxe, how sure are you?


Also, we need some Zoneace.