Mystic Mafia [Endgame]

[drealmerz7]

I have no idea anymore

if you're not scum you're doing a bang-up job pretending to be

[drealmerz7]

my scumlist is everyone except kagami and staeg and nahdia at this point

but even them I can't feel comfortable giving "TR"s to

[Fate]

Still don't think I need a VC tho

[drealmerz7]

as long as there are regular BMs

[Papa Zito]

@Fate give us one anyway.

@Mollie an SK doesn't make sense given lack of NKs. However I have been chewing on the possibility that there's a 3rd party role who wants to gather the orbs. A vote stealer role in that case would make a ton of sense.

Also I'm fine believing you about Nahdia for now.

[Desperado]

I have no idea anymore

if you're not scum you're doing a bang-up job pretending to be

lol

[drealmerz7]

*laughs back in your face*

[camntsuki]

while cupcake has become a universal townread... somehow.

it's easy when we are town. it's what we do.

[Kagami]

Drealz, something that's concerning me is that there's something missing from your wagon analysis that seems like it should be pretty salient to you.

[Fate]

effort huh...

[Fate]

I guess I could write that opening Day scene with some flavors if anyones interested

[drealmerz7]

only if you are inspired, Fate!

I would love it, if you are!!!

[drealmerz7]

camncupcake - you mean the "l" in my name?

because otherwise I'm not in the mood for a guessing game and why don't you just say what you're thinking

[drealmerz7]

oh wait that was kagami

wtf

neeed

sleeeeep

[Fate]

Jilu asked about serving spiritual beings. The Master said, "Before you have learned how to serve human beings, how can you serve spirits?"
"I venture to ask about death."
"When you do not yet know life, how can you know about death?"
-Kongfuzi

Vote Count:

camntsuki (0):
drealmerz7 (2): Desperado, Papa Zito
Papa Zito (1): dreamerz7
Dunnstral (0):
Kagami (0):
pirate mollie (0):
Staeg (2): Dunnstral, camntsuki
Desperado (0):
Nahdia (0):

Not Voting: Nahdia, Staeg, Kagami, pirate mollie

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to banish.

Deadline:

Feburary 7th 9am EDT

[Papa Zito]

I guess I could write that opening Day scene with some flavors if anyones interested

you gotta earn that GOTY man

[Kagami]

Dreal, I'm expecting a little more depth in your VCA.

[drealmerz7]

what gives you that expectation?

what are you expecting?

[Kagami]

I have that expectation because it seems like you must have come up with the VCA point against zito during yesterday's discussion, but it feels like you looked at the final VC of yesterday, made the point, said "meh, that's good enough." I expect town-dreal to dig a little further rather than just kind of stop there.

Like, does Desperado/Spyrex's anti-infinity position look like bussing? Does zito's vote look especially scummy, and why? Are there any other awkward positions you think we should be zero-ing in on?

[Kagami]

Btw drealz, I really appreciate 2158, which is a terrific post that I would never make myself.

[Papa Zito]

oh is it opposite day again?

[pirate mollie]

okay I realized 2338 was pretty incoherent. sorry, I was playing hearthstone at the same time and I messed up in hearthstone too, lol

1. ok fine.
2. Then I'm a retard and can't find them.
3. You outlined everything you find weird about Kagami mostly from happenings in your QT, but I wanted to know how you feel about kagami's representation of your private conversation

in-thread

. Or the fact that Kagami hasn't deigned to respond to any of your confusion.

2. they are there.
3. if that is what you were asking then that seems like a different question then what you asked at first, but meh that might be me being pedantic. I said exactly how I felt about kagami's representation at the beginning of d3. I felt it was very skewed and there was a lot that she left out. and I know kagami has not responded to anything I said but no1 but me seems to care. I have said this. she is a townread for every1 else but not me and I am afraid that I am tunneling on her so I wind up leaving her alone. personally, I think occam's razor points to the very simple possibility that she simply didn't GIVE desp the orb. it wld explain dreamz. there is even an explanation for the no kills out there somewhere I think. to me this points to scum!kagami but every1 else seems to think i am wrong.

Thanks for the answers but they don't
I can't make heads or tails of either you or Kagami because I only get your side of the tale, which paints Kagami in a really bad light, despite you not having Kagami as a real scumread.
I am still leaning town on dreal but damn every page that has one of his posts just saps away my willpower to keep reading.
I don't have the slightest clue about Nahdia's or cupcake's alignment - Nahdia would have been a good pick for scum before today, but apparently lolnope, while cupcake has become a universal townread... somehow.

1. i explained why I am treating her as town. I am afraid I am stuck in confbias.
2. agreed on dreamz
3. nah, i think nahdia is town. I have 3 pretty unshakeable townreads, dunn/nahdia/desp. I reread nahdia's iso and I moved her to town. I get that the move was startling but I am sticking with my read and I am gonna defend her. plus she likes zero 7 so that makes her the kewlest person in this thread.
4. yeah most pple have camn as town. it is not a solid read for me but she is doing some work even tho I have mixed feelings about it. but it is nothing that I can explain at all or put my finger on so I am letting it go.

I think the biggest thing is that I wld hate to see kagami or camn as scum. if they are then camn had a hand in spyrella's ragequit and after spending time in a pt with kagami and no1 listening to me and nacho had her as his rock I was definitely considering the same. gaslighting and making pple feel bad is scumplay that I wld find very hard to see coming from either of them and it wld make me think that I didn't know a thing about them as players at all.

the biggest thing

I don't even know why nearly everyone was so ok with publicly assembling the orb in desp's hands.
So I guess I'm just not reading the thread.
I have my fakeclaim lubed up and ready to go whenever you folk feel like hearing it. It's not a spectacular one though
Now I'll make some more scumscuses to do something (like, idk, reading the entirety of a mollie-kagami double iso) tonight or tomorrow before I inevitably get lynched.

1. I think things wld have been okay if desp wld have received the orb that kagami says she gave him. <----- that is where things get funky and I am so uncertain that I am relying heavily on my townreads to sort things out.
2. I can't wait to hear your fakeclaim!

I hope I addressed everything that you wanted me to address.

[Nahdia]

ok well VOTE: staeg this is L-2 and stuff.

[pirate mollie]

@Mollie an SK doesn't make sense given lack of NKs. However I have been chewing on the possibility that there's a 3rd party role who wants to gather the orbs. A vote stealer role in that case would make a ton of sense.

Also I'm fine believing you about Nahdia for now.

yeah I took in account the no nks but strategically it wld be a good move to hold off on a nk until both scum were lynched. it wld give a valid reason to scumhunt like crazy and then once the 2 were lynched start making nks so that the sk cld draw fake associations from their isos. its good play. ballsy as hell and there are not many pple who cld pull it off. but good. I wld totally do it but I am too blood thirty and wld nk pple ludicrously for imagined slights over the years. I wld make it fun cos I love playing indies.

an indie vote stealer? yeah mebbe. but I am not too worried about it yet.

[Papa Zito]

Mollie if your Nahdia read isn't role shenanigans then can you explain it to me because I don't share it in the least.