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Creature Solve This Game
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Human Sequencer allMafia Scumall
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Creature Solve This Game
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When I flip you'll probably deduce.In post 4852, Human Sequencer wrote:So tell me how you buy into vigRebbe when you know you're a vig AND you know there's two other killing forces in the game AND you know you didn't shoot texcat?
I don't buy it. Sell it to me.Sigh-
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Human Sequencer allMafia Scumall
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Probably straight lynch them, like I did with Gin.In post 4853, Creature wrote:Assuming you're scumreading Severa, would you let Severa claim more results or just straight lynch him?nah-
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Creature Solve This Game
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Creature Solve This Game
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Creature Solve This Game
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Creature Solve This Game
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Creature Solve This Game
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Creature Solve This Game
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Human Sequencer allMafia Scumall
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Creature Solve This Game
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EchoVision Mafia Scum
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I REALLY like this post. That seems like too complicated of a reason for scum to make up out of nowhere... I've still got a little to read but I might switch over to bdsm_tokyo soon...In post 4832, Wraith wrote:Okay now that I have some bloody time I can explain things. Quote wall incoming.
Because outlining my suspicions of Creature's role are integral to understanding why I investigated Titus over Alisae N1.In post 4821, Human Sequencer wrote:Why did you out creature? I'm doubting that hard recently, I'm guessing you picked up on the same crumb I did.
I took this post for a Vig softclaim, especially after the series preceding it and ESPECIALLY after the one that followed:In post 1814, Creature wrote:I'll kill scum myself then.
I had already been getting PR vibes from Creature based on his playstyle - playing cards close to the chest - and my conclusion of "likely Vig" was due to him constantly pushing lurkers D1. I suspected it was either an attempt to provoke activity from the lurkers and thus separate town!lurkers from scum!lurkers, or to bait scum into an obvious mislynch wagon.In post 1816, Creature wrote:Investigatives
Don't waste your precious checks on lurkers (unless you're some tracking-like role who thinks lurker will kill). They won't give info anyway.
My suspicions of Creature being the Vig are also why I didn't believe Gin's claim whatsoever (combined with Gin loudly shouting about who he intended to "shoot"):
In post 2570, Wraith wrote:Yeah and it's very obviously fake. AA said it best:
I also think Zach's case is a decent one when (finally) viewed altogether. And those aren't the only two reasons.In post 2401, All Alone wrote:In post 2254, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm just using my vig shot on you, I dont care if I die claiming a power role, you're a worthy shot.In post 2265, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'll self hammer at this point but lynch these slots lynched with fire after I'm dead.
SELF-HAMMERING IS NOT A TOWN VIG PLAYIn post 2275, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Remember, the those 3 pushers of my lynch, also Echo. Let's end Day 1 please.
VOTE: Gin
SELF-VOTING IS NOT A TOWN VIG PLAY
FAKECLAIM DETECTED, EVERYONE GET YOUR VOTES ON GIN
It's tough because the wagon on Alisae is starting to gain steam again and rightfully so. But I'm putting more priority on the terrible, obvious fakeclaim.
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Vote: Gin
and also why I'm currentlyIn post 2769, Wraith wrote:AM I GOING COMPLETELY MAD?!
So the claimed Vig threatens to use his shot on HS the following night, and then actively pushes and votes for his own lynch? And then we'retelegraphing his Vig shot in advance?
In the theoretical scenario where Gin is telling the truth and he is the Vig, and he believes he is shooting scum in Echo, why should we possibly believe scum will just allow this to happen? If we're speculating Vigs and SKs and god-knows-whatever, is it so much of a stretch to speculate that the scum have a Roleblocker handy?
How is thisPOSSIBLYpro-town activity?verysuspicious of Debi/Rebbe's Vig claim.
I suspected Titus picked up on the same softclaim and vibe, and that he was softclaiming a protective role, after this post:
So I had a dilemma - investigate Alisae or Titus? I picked Titus because to me that would metaphorically confirm two birds with one stone in my mind. Turns out it confirmed three with one stone because the Grey/texcat flip made me firmly believe Alisae is town now.In post 1858, Titus wrote:
Not if I have anything to say about it.In post 1839, Creature wrote:I'll probably die N1 anyway.
In hindsight that was probably crucially flawed logic, but w/e. I think my scumreads at the start of the day illustrate my train of thought well enough:
MortFeld recently pointed out a pretty crucial post Kyouko made:In post 2980, Wraith wrote:Took a look at Grey/texcat's ISOs. One big thing I can take away from it is that my townread on Creature is cemented and I'm reversing on Alisae. Grey in particular did a lot to try to undermine those two players (as well as rb) early on.
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Which is pretty clearly Kyouko fishing for PRs and bumped up my 99% certainty of Scum!Kyouko to 100%. That he's asking this question makes me think there are now two possibilities:In post 4533, Wraith wrote:
Holy shit how did I miss that?In post 4524, MortFeld wrote:
For the record, I've been thinking about this one a lot. @kyouko why did you ask this?In post 3870, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:General question directed mostly at Titus but any experienced players: If there's a (1-shot) BP in this setup is it town or scum?
1. Kyouko's scumteam shot Creature and think Titus protected him
2. Kyouko's scumteam shot Titus and suspect he is BP-
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So even after you town read on Wraith, you still think that severa was right about him being the gunsmith?????In post 4837, Human Sequencer wrote:You are very clearly incorrect on Severa, not only because of my read on Severa but my read on how you came to scumread Severa.
That's a vanity wagon if I ever saw one, boys.
I'm gonna go here.
VOTE: Creature
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I'm assuming that Creature is an even night vig and rebbe is an odd night vig???In post 4858, Creature wrote:Okay, I'm vigilante and I have a plausible reason to believe there's another vig around. That's enough information for scum.-
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Human Sequencer allMafia Scumall
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Wraith came out as a cop which you seemed to believe (which i believe too, nothing against you on that) But the gunsmith (supposedly severa) had said that Wraith was armed with a gun. That means his claim is bullshit because Wraith is a cop and cops don't have fuckin guns sir...In post 4868, Human Sequencer wrote:wot-
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Zachstralkita Jack of All Trades
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oh i knew thatIn post 4872, Human Sequencer wrote:Cops get a guilty from gunsmiths.
I've also stated reason to believe that Severa is VT faking gunsmith, but I'm not entirely confident in that, I'm just spitballing there.
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