Open 671: Greater Idea - OVER

[-Grey-]

I "raged" at you coz I thought you were seriously claiming. I RVSed RC coz I thought you could actually be an idiot townie claiming in RVS.

So you thought I was seriously claiming... which if I was, that also meant RC was a mason... but you voted RC, who you thought was a mason because of my claim... which proves that you obviously did not believe my claim to be outing town pr's

Edit.

[Gamma Emerald]

Avatar	User	Predecessor(s)	Discard	Flip	Time of Death
	alban	n/a	Mafia Cupid	n/a	n/a
	bangthemafia	n/a	Alien Vanillaiser	n/a	n/a
	Charloux	n/a	Werewolf	n/a	n/a
	culted	n/a	Conspiracy Theorist	n/a	n/a
	davesaz	n/a	Reloader	n/a	n/a
	-Grey-	n/a	Werewolf Mason	n/a	n/a
	Kop	n/a	Treestump	n/a	n/a
	Not_Mafia	n/a	Evangelistic Townie	n/a	n/a
	RadiantCowbells	KainTepes	Parrot	n/a	n/a
	Secret Agent Jin	n/a	Survivor Mason	n/a	n/a
	Spade_Ace	n/a	Alien Prober	n/a	n/a
	Vaxkiller	DiamondSentinel	Lover	n/a	n/a

Alien Vanillaiser, Reloader, and Parrot strike me as notable discards rn

[bangthemafia]

Okay so the main reason I decided to hop in here was to play a Greater Idea game in forum style, since I have experience with this setup in chat mafia.
One thing I'd like to mention is

scummy discards

. There are two forms: initial and claimed. Initial scummy discards are when someone discards a very powerful role. It suggests they found a better (usually scum) role. Claimed ones are where the claimed role is less fun to play then the discard, suggesting the claim is fake.
Also, I'm not sure if this is the case, but

usually

roles are not repeated. So the Parrot that is discarded in the OP cannot be held by another player.

Thanks for this tip. Quite interesting and logical!!

I "raged" at you coz I thought you were seriously claiming. I RVSed RC coz I thought you could actually be an idiot townie claiming in RVS.

So you thought I was seriously claiming... which is I was, that also meant RC was a mason... bit you voted RC, who you thought was a mason because of my claim... which proves that you obviously did not beloved my claim to be outing town pr's

Thats because I actually went back to see the list of roles and realized that in this setup masons can be non towns like werewolf mason etc and still all madons would together share a PT. Same for lovers. So believing your claim didn't mean believing they were towns. And anyway that was my first vote- more like RVS but going for whatever little I had that time! Does that answer you?

[Charloux]

@Bang: Seems legit
@Gamma: Do you think discarding powerful scum roles is indicative of them being town?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Keep the change you filthy animal.

I almost think that NM is jester who thinks that if he pushes on me long enough I'll get pissy and lynch him.

Ew Jester-FOSing already
that plus the parrot discard makes me very suspicious of RC

[Gamma Emerald]

@Bang: Seems legit
@Gamma: Do you think discarding powerful scum roles is indicative of them being town?

Not really
Thing is scum usually win more so being scum is more appealing
tbh the best way to test this would have been an RVS with "town or scum which do you prefer" as a question, but I came in late so RQS would be rather tasteless.
Do like that NM (or was it SAJ) noted RC's discard.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: kop Who turns down the chance to turn into a talking tree stump?

Gotta be honest, I'd have jumped at the opportunity to be a tree stump.

Would have been troll central up in hyur.

oh glod

[Gamma Emerald]

I know what Spade Ace is but I'm not telling unless like 2/3 of everyone else wants me to

[Gamma Emerald]

nevermind he claimed ALREADY

[Gamma Emerald]

Ohh for heaven's sake. Don't be so stupid. I said the role I 'kept'. Go read my msgs you dumbfucks. Where the hell did I say my current role is wildcard.

You still think it's one word!

Shut the fuck up Xyrad wannabe

[bangthemafia]

Avatar	User	Predecessor(s)	Discard	Flip	Time of Death
	alban	n/a	Mafia Cupid	n/a	n/a
	bangthemafia	n/a	Alien Vanillaiser	n/a	n/a
	Charloux	n/a	Werewolf	n/a	n/a
	culted	n/a	Conspiracy Theorist	n/a	n/a
	davesaz	n/a	Reloader	n/a	n/a
	-Grey-	n/a	Werewolf Mason	n/a	n/a
	Kop	n/a	Treestump	n/a	n/a
	Not_Mafia	n/a	Evangelistic Townie	n/a	n/a
	RadiantCowbells	KainTepes	Parrot	n/a	n/a
	Secret Agent Jin	n/a	Survivor Mason	n/a	n/a
	Spade_Ace	n/a	Alien Prober	n/a	n/a
	Vaxkiller	DiamondSentinel	Lover	n/a	n/a

Alien Vanillaiser, Reloader, and Parrot strike me as notable discards rn

@Gamma,
Why reloader? They reload 1 shot abilities right? That can be quite antitown

Why alien vanillaizer? This is the first time I got a choice to choose my role. And I always love playing town. Being scum is so taxing. You can check 657's Dead PT.

Why not conspiracy theorist? Any investigative role is quite great in my opinion as you hav some extra info than others and can help town.

Why not treestump. Its a role where a strong player can keep guiding / helping town even after dying

[Gamma Emerald]

Scummy after page 2
RC
Grey
Vax
and by the way I'm probably just going to not teamhunt at all this game.

[-Grey-]

So believing your claim didn't mean believing they were towns.

Ta-da!

My point exactly. All your bluster about me making assumptions was bullshit because my deductions, as you yourself admitted,

were correct

!

Who's. Yo. Daddy?!

[Gamma Emerald]

@bang:
reloader is a useful role for town imo, on my site where I played GerI before it was very pro-town
Vanillaiser is a pretty powerful role imo, can WIFOM a PR (because they can be called as roleswapping)
CS also investigates as alien, so it's not very good. iirc there's a alien investigator that doesn't have the miller property
stump is mostly vanilla, so I can see it being discarded

[-Grey-]

VOTE: kop Who turns down the chance to turn into a talking tree stump?

Gotta be honest, I'd have jumped at the opportunity to be a tree stump.

Would have been troll central up in hyur.

oh glod

glod lolmighty.

[Gamma Emerald]

Discards are revealed before a wild card is in effect.

@

mod

:

Would the game start prior to ALL role PM's being finalized?

Role PMs have been sent out!

Game begins when all 12 confirm.

You have 48 hours to pick up your role PM and decide which role you want to keep.

(expired on 2017-01-21 22:00:00)

Status: 12/12

Your answer is in

bold

and

underlined

.

@mod

: Does the player with a wild card choose their role from the discards

like the wiki states,

or do you randomly assign a role from the discards?

That is not what the Wiki states. It states that a role will be randomly assigned from the list of roles.

I think Grey is thinking of another role which can PICK from discards tbh

[bangthemafia]

would

Not really. For people like me who are extremely busy in real life, town alignment suits best. I get very taxed up as scum coz i hav to keep inventing lies and false accusations. People do say i make a good scum. But thats only when i hav lot of time which generally I dont have. So given a choice I would anyday choose a town role

[Gamma Emerald]

k that makes sense

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

This slot can die regardless of its alignment.

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells
for now

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh.

I think NM is lyncher on me.

AGAIN WITH 3PS

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh.

I think NM is lyncher on me.

If he's a lyncher, we can just ignore him.

We need to find scum, not impotent third party.

Counteroffer:

He's blatantly acting like 3p lyncher on me in order to mask the fact that he's actually scum and lead us to that point of view.

If he's 3rd party he's a non-town and a valuable lynch anyway. let's get rid of him.

The truth: you're using "lyncher" as an excuse to NOT lynch you.

[bangthemafia]

So believing your claim didn't mean believing they were towns.

Ta-da!

My point exactly. All your bluster about me making assumptions was bullshit because my deductions, as you yourself admitted,

were correct

!

Who's. Yo. Daddy?!

God! For one last time, read my post carefully-

Let's get this party started!

I'm Masons with RadiantCowbells and Lovers with Not_Mafia.

Crazy, I know.

VOTE: culted

WTF.

If you are a town, you have exposed not 1 but 3 power roles. Also you hav indicated that there are only 1 extra lover and only 1 extra mason assuming that mason PT and lovers PM will tell the list of all members.

So @Radiant and @Not_Mafia, if you are town and know Grey is lying, expose him.

On the contrary, since there are multuple factions likely, each faction would be more interested to take out others before taking out townies. So scums are likely to claim citizens quite early. For now i hav eyes on you.

And for using a possible genuine reason as an excuse to make the RVS sound more like a serious vote,

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

I said if u r town u hav exposed 3 PRs- not necessarily town. Thats why i said to RC and NM that IF they are town and know u are lying, they shud come out. What's difficult to understand, man? Yours was post #8 and mine 15. On the 1st page how would i know for sure whether u r lying or telling truth. I considered both possibilities and tried to make sense of whatever luttle i knew about this setup.

Now can we just close this matter and focus on something else???

[Gamma Emerald]

I am not unvoting Not_Mafia as long as they are alive.

orlly

[Gamma Emerald]

I am town though so

Well shit man, why didn't you say so in the first place?!

I was busy talking about other people's alignments. Don't worry I got you covered now fam.

We ride together.
We die together.
Bad boys for life.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Cool thanks for the partner claim

You should have figured that out when I claimed Masons with him.

I'm the Martin Lawrence to his Will Smith.

Fun fact: last time Grey claimed masons with someone he was scum with them (Titus in Smackdown, and I know Titus claimed it but he didn't refute it).

[-Grey-]

I said if u r town u hav exposed 3 PRs- not necessarily town.

Who the fuck cares if I exposed scum PR's, you squirming scumfuck?