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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:38 am

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VC 1.3
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(3):, Davesaz , alban , Vaxkiller
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(2): Not_Mafia , bangthemafia
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Not Voting
(5): Charloux, culted, Kop, Secret Agent Jin, Spade_Ace


With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch

The day will end on February 5th, 2017 at 12 AM EST.
(expired on 2017-02-04 22:00:00)


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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:39 am

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Those who discarded a powerful town PR are more likely to be scum. Also those who discarded a powerful scum role are more likely to be town.
Discarded roles like treestump and lover don't tell anything.
Alban and grey are likely town by this logic. Btw what does alien vanillaiser do?
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:48 am

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In post 251, Charloux wrote:Discarded roles like treestump and lover don't tell anything.
How? Lover is an awful role, pretty much forcing that player to choose whatever the other option is.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:50 am

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Exactly! He had to take the other role, but what the other role was can't be determined. I'd say it's 50% for town and 50% for scum.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:51 am

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JK, SAJ has already been prodded. Should prob read the mod ISO.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:07 am

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In post 253, Charloux wrote:Exactly! He had to take the other role, but what the other role was can't be determined. I'd say it's 50% for town and 50% for scum.
Yeah lets get that guy!

Oh wait its me.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:09 am

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In post 246, alban wrote:Why is it more fun to be a trivial town?
You are right. Not trivial town but trivial 3rd party roles like jester and lyncher, that don't threaten town wincon might be fun and challenging to play than having a potent town role.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:12 am

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In post 256, Spade_Ace wrote:
In post 246, alban wrote:Why is it more fun to be a trivial town?
You are right. Not trivial town but trivial 3rd party roles like jester and lyncher, that don't threaten town wincon might be fun and challenging to play than having a potent town role.
Not really
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:13 am

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Really? I would have loved to play as jester and try to get people to lynch me.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:17 am

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In post 258, Spade_Ace wrote:Really? I would have loved to play as jester and try to get people to lynch me.
It's harder than you think.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:19 am

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@vax what is your opinion on RC and NM. They seem to be so focused on each other. Could one of them probably be a lyncher?
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:21 am

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That's what rc said about nm, if I remember correctly.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:24 am

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I assumed it was some prior beef.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:53 am

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In post 240, -Grey- wrote:
In post 239, bangthemafia wrote:When did i say its NAI in my post? I just said that why would town claim so early and expose other townies too. Having said this, I dont really think its AI. But my point is that I haf not voiced that in my post and you dont know me so how did you conclude that?
BECAUSE YOU VOTED THE DUDE I CLAIMED TO BE MASONS WITH, GENIUS
An early mason claim like that is far more likely to be fake. If fake it's likely to be ignored, and if it's ignored, then voting the claimed partner is NAI.

I'm strongly leaning toward Grey's fakeclaim being an actual rolefish and not just a joke.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:54 am

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It's also a pot meets kettle moment, Grey chastising people for failing to / refusing to answer, when he did the same thing to me.
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:26 am

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In post 40, -Grey- wrote:I'd legit like to see a bangthemafia wagon.

The way he raged at me for my claim and then put out a flaccid RC vote, he was hoping to spark a wagon on me but didn't want the blowback of doing it himself.
All assumptions! Great!! I know where you come from, Mr Know it all troll!!! You beat Kain Tepes and Transcend!! :-D

I "raged" at you coz I thought you were seriously claiming. I RVSed RC coz I thought you could actually be an idiot townie claiming in RVS.

Rest of page 2 & 3 was just you throwing shade on Spade for no apparent reason apart from your wildcard assumptions!!!
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This slot can die regardless of its alignment.
@RC plz explain this
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:49 am

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In post 112, -Grey- wrote:
In post 106, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 97, -Grey- wrote:
In post 92, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh.

I think NM is lyncher on me.
If he's a lyncher, we can just ignore him.

We need to find scum, not impotent third party.
Counteroffer:

He's blatantly acting like 3p lyncher on me in order to mask the fact that he's actually scum and lead us to that point of view.

If he's 3rd party he's a non-town and a valuable lynch anyway. let's get rid of him.
The thing is, if he's a lyncher with a scum target, lynching you would be win/win.

I'd rather sort my read on you than lynch a TP simply for being TP.
As much as I hate trolls like Grey, this post is super townie. A scum would start getting allies towards a lynch- whether a third party or townie or other scum faction. So Grey's attempts look genuine scumhunting. But your style is horrible dude!
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:06 am

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In post 121, -Grey- wrote:
In post 119, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 117, -Grey- wrote:
In post 114, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am town though so :)
Well shit man, why didn't you say so in the first place?!
I was busy talking about other people's alignments. Don't worry I got you covered now fam.
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@bang, you stopped too soon
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:06 am

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In post 191, Kop wrote:8 pages to read. I shall do that once I am finished with work this afternoon.
It's 11 friggin pages.... of mostly non-sense! Join the game!

VOTE: kop
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:42 am

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In post 198, Spade_Ace wrote:
In post 193, alban wrote:
In post 71, Spade_Ace wrote:
In post 62, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 60, Spade_Ace wrote:I still didn't understand what your point is. I discarded alien prober, kept wildcard. Was given the new role when the game started.
You are saying your role is "Wild Card"
@grey and vaxkiller I dare you both to get me lynched today.
This can easily happen. Though I understand your exasoeration.
That wasn't an actual dare. I was trying to convey that I have a role that can be easily verified as town.

But it appears that i was mistaken on the actual power of my role and cant be verified.

My role is weird. I win when town wins. But my power is anti-town. Dont know what to do with that.
Why do you want to even announce that you win when town wins? You are basically softclaiming a townie PR that someone can zero down from the role PM list- I am not even intersted in that right now. My point is, and thats why I got agitated when Grey claimed in RVS, that in a multiple scum faction game (and this is my first ever), each scum would want to eliminate others. By announcing your town alignment you make it easy for them.
In post 210, -Grey- wrote:Motherfucker, I'll votepark you out of spite of you don't shut the fuck up.
Please try to act civilized. All of us are here to play and hav fun, not to hear some abusive troll.
In post 219, -Grey- wrote:
In post 213, alban wrote:
In post 210, -Grey- wrote:Motherfucker, I'll votepark you out of spite of you don't shut the fuck up.
Is this how they vent anger in where to come from?
Stop swearing. I am serious.
VOTE: Grey
So in your little worldview, scum tries to win by being assholes and pissing people off, right?

Voting me for any other excuse than thinking I am scum is basically admitting to playing to a scum wincon, so I'm sure you'll find some way to call me scum because I used a dirty word.

Let's hear it.
No. I dont think you are a scum. So I may not vote for you. But some more of your abusiveness and I swear I will report to either mod or site admin and get you blocked. Do you get that? We are all strangers and lets behave with some basic courtsey and civilized manners.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:49 am

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In post 269, bangthemafia wrote: My point is, and thats why I got agitated when Grey claimed in RVS, that in a multiple scum faction game (and this is my first ever), each scum would want to eliminate others.
2 things to note here
1)This isn't your first multiball.
2)How do you know it's a multiball? You would only know that if you were a 3rd party(jester/lyncher) that can't exist without scum(mafia, ww etc.)
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:56 am

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Two fold

1. Treat others the way you would want to be treated. If you like being treated like shit, then don't be an asshole.

2. Please welcome Gamma Emerald as he replaces culted effective immediately! I'll update the table when I'm home from the auto store.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:02 am

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Okay so the main reason I decided to hop in here was to play a Greater Idea game in forum style, since I have experience with this setup in chat mafia.
One thing I'd like to mention is
scummy discards
. There are two forms: initial and claimed. Initial scummy discards are when someone discards a very powerful role. It suggests they found a better (usually scum) role. Claimed ones are where the claimed role is less fun to play then the discard, suggesting the claim is fake.
Also, I'm not sure if this is the case, but
usually
roles are not repeated. So the Parrot that is discarded in the OP cannot be held by another player.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:06 am

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In post 265, bangthemafia wrote:I "raged" at you coz I thought you were seriously claiming. I RVSed RC coz I thought you could actually be an idiot townie claiming in RVS.
So you thought I was seriously claiming... which is I was, that also meant RC was a mason... bit you voted RC, who you thought was a mason because of my claim... which proves that you obviously did not beloved my claim to be outing town pr's
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:08 am

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In post 270, Charloux wrote:
In post 269, bangthemafia wrote: My point is, and thats why I got agitated when Grey claimed in RVS, that in a multiple scum faction game (and this is my first ever), each scum would want to eliminate others.
2 things to note here
1)This isn't your first multiball.
2)How do you know it's a multiball? You would only know that if you were a 3rd party(jester/lyncher) that can't exist without scum(mafia, ww etc.)
Hi Charl, I can see where you are getting at. Yes, this is my first game with possibilities of multiple scum factions. The only game I have played on MS, as you know, had a SK. I thought unlike SK who is a loner and so doesn't have to worry about giving away associations, scum factions would be more wary of the other factions because they have to worry that their partnerships are not apparent. So I thought scum parties would be actively hunting for buddying, partnering to find out and eliminate other scums.
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1. Treat others the way you would want to be treated. If you like being treated like shit, then don't be an asshole.

2. Please welcome Gamma Emerald as he replaces culted effective immediately! I'll update the table when I'm home from the auto store.
Hey Gamma, welcome!

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