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[Tywin Lannister]

He's scum and I'm pushing him and he's pushing back. Why would I not be?

Lol!!!

[Tywin Lannister]

Nero I agree with now after his opportunistic vote on me without reason or thought about the current game state whatsoever,

this is blatantly untrue. This is like the second time you've claimed that I'm not giving reasons. Like, I'm not going to convince you that you are scum so of course you'll disagree but you disagreeing=//=no reasons given.

Titcus most likely isn't scum cause she'd have to be scum doctor and that counters our best pr's I doubt it

?????

Can we just hurry up and lynch Tywin so I can be conf town tomorrow? Though I'm sure someone will bring up the "IT WAS A BUS!"

Okay, so what was I lying about? Your vote wasn't opportunistic? How so? You waited til Pine/Elb voted me then jumped on. That's the definition of opportunistic, so idk what you think was lied about? Not giving reasons? Well, your reason was 'Tywin/Sonia both scum read me, so they must be scum.' So your reason is OMGUS.

Now, when I say 'reasons' to vote someone, I'm saying you have nothing you can point at, no posts, no quotes, nothing that you can show that says 'Tywin said this scummy thing.' You have no reasons in the purest sense of the word. Saying 'I have reasons so that's a reason!' doesn't make it true. I'm not talking fucking semantics here. It's common sense what I meant when I said you have no reason to vote me or Sonia, so using semantics as a way to call me a liar in defense is just ridiculous and scummy. I CLEARLY implied that you have no reason to call me scummy, therefore voting me is scummy in itself.

Also, your post about being confirmed town, because I'm voting you which means you're town... Jesus H Christ.

[Tywin Lannister]

The funny part is that Nero wants to vote me to be conf town somehow, which is ridiculous from any perspective. If I was scum and flipped, his opportunistic vote on me could just be scum attempting a bus play. That's not how you 'conf town' anything Nero. How are you so dumb this game? Since I'm not scum, lynching me today would only get you roped tomorrow, so you're not very bright. I think your scum hoping to get to Lylo.

Also Nero, if you were town and truly believed I was scum, you'd have no problem being lynched today, because you flipping town is sure to get me quicklynched tomorrow. The stupidity that you've shown is beyond your normal town meta, so you're clearly acting dumb on purpose. You're scum and need to eat some rope. Your buddy can wait til tomorrow.

[Tywin Lannister]

I respect the effort though, but I think you played it too far Nero. Since almost everyone has played in other games with you, we already know you're not this dumb. I can't see anyone believing it.

[Elbirn]

Tywin can I ask you a question?

[Aj The Epic]

Never lynch Sonia

Why?

Titus, I need this answered. Speaking of which, Dierfire's game just finished here and was a scum game for Sonia.

Tywin's dying today if I have anything to say about it. I'm not comfortable with how shifty his reads are. Not just over today, either. One of his main arguments was that he hadn't been as wrong as the rest of the town but now we've got double vote wagons he was comfortable with that came up town. If that was the source of his confidence, it doesn't show as he's still fully convinced Pine/Nero are scum. Well... his reads today have been kinda bad too.

And yes part of it is I can't justify actually letting Tywin into a potential lylo because I WILL lynch him. It's not only an embarrassment to lose to this kind of play but there's also just too many things he's weaseled out of. At least give me the ability to read his posts with "This was a town player's actual frustration" or "yeah this was caught scum we should've hung d1".

As I said earlier, I'm forcing myself to hold Pine as a town read for right now. I don't have any direct opinion of Nero since he did sheep the wagon shift yesterday rather easily. Elbrin is probs town until further notice.

In short, the two we're accepting as conftown need to be actively involved here.

[Cephrir]

Votecount 4.3

Tywin Lannister 3 (Pine, Elbirn, Nero Cain)
Nero Cain 2 (gerryoat, Tywin)
Pine 1 (Sonia)

Not Voting (Titus, Aj)

8 alive, 5 to lynch.

[Pine]

Titus, you're going to have to justify your TR on Tywin for us to continue being friends.

[Nero Cain]

I don't have any direct opinion of Nero since he did sheep the wagon shift yesterday rather easily. Elbrin is probs town until further notice.

TBF I was pushing a Sonia/Tywin grouping and it looks like Sonia isn't happening so...I just want to lynch scum...I don't care wich username it is.

[Aj The Epic]

You voted Gamma did you not? And also Kyouko? So are you claiming four scum reads there?

[Nero Cain]

Gamma and SSBM are dead guy so no I didn't vote them today. I was hard pushing SSBM earlier since I thought they were scum. I prob did vote for Gamma but yes, Sonia and Tywin are scum.

[gerryoat]

Sonia, Pine lynch isn't happening. Vote Nero. Titus, you want Nero lynched, vote Nero. AJ vote your partner Nero

[Nero Cain]

you aren't going to strong arm a ML on me. We could debate your reasoning but you won't share or don't have any. You could vote scum with me but I don't think you are all that interested in helping town.

[gerryoat]

Nope, I'm just a GT account. You caught me

[xSoniaNevermindx]

VOTE: Nero

[Pine]

Gerry, convince me about Nero. Cloudkicker analysis suggests Town.

[Nero Cain]

......

[gerryoat]

Gerry, convince me about Nero. Cloudkicker analysis suggests Town.

i explained my POE earlier

[Nero Cain]

Well, your reason was 'Tywin/Sonia both scum read me, so they must be scum.' So your reason is OMGUS.

I'm not Titus, I don't scum read people b/c they have a scum read on me. My point is that both you and Sonia keep voting me and then turn around and act like ya'll ain't sure. Its very "anyway the wind blows". You are also saying other things that are untrue such as that Pine and I had some awkward conversation. There were prob other things but that's the most memorable. Your "use quotes!" is very much just assigning me busy work.

If I was scum and flipped, his opportunistic vote on me could just be scum attempting a bus play.

look at the little scumbutt trying to put it in the minds of town that he's getting bussed.

Also Nero, if you were town and truly believed I was scum, you'd have no problem being lynched today, because you flipping town is sure to get me quicklynched tomorrow.

This applies to you as much as me. You should be self voting if you think

YOUR

flip would get me auto lynched.

[Titus]

I am not scumreading you for you scumreading me before.

I have had massive RL and I have done much more than you here.

Sonia is confirmed to me based on D1.

[Pine]

Titus, you're going to have to justify your TR on Tywin for us to continue being friends.

[Nero Cain]

I am not scumreading you for you scumreading me before.

I have had massive RL and I have done much more than you here.

Sonia is confirmed to me based on D1.

You had a scum read on Tywin day 1 when he was voting you. Ditto Moz. Ita not just something that I think you are doing this game but its something you do every game. You've given a explanation for this so ok, but I still think you are 20x more likely to scum read a player that has been scum reading you.

I haven't been a bump on a log this game and I'm not sure why you'd think that unless you are looking at my post count and going "OH I have 200 more posts than him so he must be doing nothing"

Explain your Tywin read and expand on Sonias d1 play.

[Titus]

Titus, you're going to have to justify your TR on Tywin for us to continue being friends.

Tywin's acting like I do when I know my lynch would help the game.

Plus Nero and Elbrin are all over that shit.

Nero's still doing nothing but whine about me.

[Elbirn]

Shock and awe, I want the compulsive liar dead.

Please please please talk to us about sonia. I really want to know why she's town. Convince me.

[Elbirn]

Why did the game just stall to death

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