Ah, Superhans voted GE. I need to iso that.In post 864, grapes wrote:DAY 2 VC 002
(Kop, Realeo, Superhans, Dunnstral)Gamma Emerald ( 4 ) -
(Desperado, Gamma Emerald, Alisae, davesaz)ThinkBig ( 4 ) -
(algebra)Realeo ( 1 ) -
(ThinkBig)Not Voting ( 1 ) -
Six to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-21 05:24:02) remain until deadline.
OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)
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I'm not ready to flip my interpretation of the game state completely and I don't want to vote dave or Ali. I think they're town, I think scum really thought I was the traitor, and that's why a wagon never materialized on me despite all of the traitor talk d1.In post 1223, Regfan wrote:
Can you run me through your vote placement on Kop over Hans in that case? I mean I certainly don't mind it, I just want to hear your thought process behind it since it's not walked through inside your ISO. Also did you ever take a quick look at TB's meta (If so before or after I replaced in)? Would also like your read on Dunn & Alisea so we can discuss the similarities/differences between our reads there when I'm done reading them.In post 1222, Desperado wrote:@ Reg: I think it was the former and I think Hans has been snowing me all day
I didn't look at his meta and haven't since you replaced in, no. I'm taking your word for it.
For Ali, see above. For Dunn, I can't really point to anything specific, I just feel town emanating from his posts and have all game.-
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@Regfan: SuperHans do seems opportunistic at Gamma wagon? You want to play more attention at that."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I fucked up that one. Proceed."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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If you can re-elaborate it more, I feel better @ you.In post 1138, Superhans wrote:However, when voting Gamma, I wasn't saying that I was voting Gamma BECAUSE of the death of SSBM, I was saying that I was continuing her push onto Gamma, not accusing Gamma of NKing her."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I don't like Kops reasoning for suspecting Ssbm inside Post 212 and find his vote on Gamma inside Post 281 scum motivated and dislike how quickly he drops his SH suspicion from earlier. I liked most of Kops analysis of AHs case on TB inside Post 379 but the lack of conclusion or read actually drawn from it is really concerning. His stance on "I don't do scum reads early game, just want information" inside Post 638 is something I'll need to verify with his meta because otherwise this looks like creating an excuse to not scumhunt or look at other avenues. I found the Gamma vote inside Post 765 as a fairly reasonable one given AH's actions D1. The decrease in activity and lack of reaction towards his scum read (Gammas) claim is a fairly big scum tell as is his pop in agreement on TB being mafia inside Post 1147, Dunn and myself went into it earlier but he's effectively scum reading TB for reading AH as a traitor and backing off and that's not a reasonable thought process based on what's been offered, it looks more a case of setting up an opportunity to move his vote from Gamma to ThinkBig. I'll need to take a quick look at his meta but think there's a very decent chance that he's mafia here and think the Ssbm kill makes slightly more sense with Kop being mafia.-
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@Desperado - I obviously agree with your Kop scum read and vote but can you explain whyyouthink Kops more likely mafia than anyone else at the moment, your prior post sort of lacks that. Outside of Dave having thought you're the traitor what's your read on him? And can you run me through an overall idea of where you're at with SH at the moment since you seem to have him in a funny position.
I'll be taking a look at SH's progression behind his read on Gamma/AH/TB again once I've finished catching up on everyone. There's elements of his play that come across as town but Desperados not wrong in that SH's play today also makes sense as scum that's buddying up to his TB case, the fact that he's constantly referring to Desperados reasoning behind thinking TB is mafia than his own is indeed a problem.In post 1227, Realeo wrote:@Regfan: SuperHans do seems opportunistic at Gamma wagon? You want to play more attention at that.-
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Not really no. Of course my prior posts lack that--I've been pushing ThinkBig as scum and I still believe in that but your hard townread means it isn't going to happen. Kop is a compromise and nothing more than that really.In post 1231, Regfan wrote:@Desperado - I obviously agree with your Kop scum read and vote but can you explain why you think Kops more likely mafia than anyone else at the moment, your prior post sort of lacks that. Outside of Dave having thought you're the traitor what's your read on him? And can you run me through an overall idea of where you're at with SH at the moment since you seem to have him in a funny position.
Dave looks like lazy town and the specifics surrounding the traitor push are enough for me to not want to lynch him.
I do have SH in a funny position; if my reads are wrong, Super will have been my biggest blindspot but like I said, I'm not ready to let go of that completely just yet.-
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Went over Kops ISO again and there's still not much inside it that reads as town and genuine scumhunting, I find there's a severe lack of stances taken from him throughout the game; there's nearly no town reads mentioned from him and his scum reads on Gamma & more recently TB both come across as opportunistic. I dislike the manner he dropped his SH scum read and never went back to it. Yeah I'm willing to throw down a vote here for now;
Vote: Kop
@Desperado - I'm just trying to work out why you selected Kop overeveryoneelse, is it a case of everyone else leaning somewhat town or is it a case of finding certain aspects of Kops play to make more sense as mafia? I recognise that you've been playing most of this day phase with the impression that it's a world where ThinkgBig is mafia and like that you acknowledge there isn't a chance I'm letting him get lynched while alive but I don't think just putting SH entirely to the side is the best way to handle that given not much will change in the gamestate any time soon. I'd also like you to analyse TB yourself and state a read on him with the information I've provided (Not necessarily just meta wise) rather than just deciding he's not the avenue for today.-
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In post 1226, Desperado wrote:I'm not ready to flip my interpretation of the game state completely and I don't want to vote dave or Ali. I think they're town, I think scum really thought I was the traitor, and that's why a wagon never materialized on me despite all of the traitor talk d1.-
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In post 512, grapes wrote:DAY 1 VC 008
(Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko)Antihuman ( 3 ) -
(Dunnstral, Alisae)Desperado ( 2 ) -
(algebra)Realeo ( 1 ) -
(Realeo)Gamma Emerald ( 1 ) -
(davesaz)Secret Agent Jin ( 1 ) -
(Antihuman)ThinkBig ( 1 ) -
(ThinkBig)Dunnstral ( 1 ) -
(Superhans, Kop)Not Voting ( 2 ) -
Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.In post 609, grapes wrote:DAY 1 VC 009
(Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko, ThinkBig, Alisae)Antihuman ( 5 ) -
(Antihuman, Superhans, Realeo)ThinkBig ( 3 ) -
(Dunnstral, davesaz)Desperado ( 2 ) -
(algebra)Realeo ( 1 ) -
(Kop)Not Voting ( 1 ) -
Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.
Prodding Kop and Gamma Emerald.
Let me know if the VC is incorrect for some reason.
No deadline extension.
Ali and dave both jump off of you to vote ahIn post 669, grapes wrote:DAY 1 VC 010
(Gamma Emerald, ThinkBig, Alisae, davesaz, Superhans)Antihuman ( 5 ) -
(Antihuman, Realeo, Desperado)ThinkBig ( 3 ) -
(Dunnstral)Desperado ( 1 ) -
(algebra)Realeo ( 1 ) -
(ssbm_Kyouko)Kop ( 1 ) -
(Kop)Not Voting ( 1 ) -
Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.
He was scum, yes, but of course they don't know that. And if they thought you were traitor I'd say it looks scummy. They never really let your wagon take off-
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No. It was ssbm kyouko"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Wait - The basis for you being traitor accounted for TB being scum?In post 487, Alisae wrote:
Ye.In post 485, Desperado wrote:
So do you still think Antihuman is scum?In post 474, Alisae wrote:I'll get to my thoughts about the last 11 pages later, I'm gonna go to bed actually pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here
VOTE: Desperado
Obvious TraitorIn post 486, Dunnstral wrote:In post 476, Realeo wrote:
Desperado obv Traitor, maybe...In post 474, Alisae wrote:I'll get to my thoughts about the last 11 pages later, I'm gonna go to bed actually pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here
VOTE: Desperado
Obvious Traitor
But Desperado + MariaR -> traitor... I don'k think so.
What are you talking about
What does MariaR have to do with itThis. I basicly saw this and thought traitor. Yes it's probably mocking TB, but Traitors want to make it very obvious to their scumteam that they are the traitor. You seriously have no idea how obvious they will be just to show that they are the traitor.
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oh. is that why you killed him?In post 1243, Realeo wrote:No. It was ssbm kyouko-
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Nah It wasn't the basis of the traitor readIn post 492, Alisae wrote:TB - Probably Town-
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I will roll a emotidice. This dice will dictate the emoticon that you would receive.In post 1245, Dunnstral wrote:
oh. is that why you killed him?In post 1243, Realeo wrote:No. It was ssbm kyouko
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Original Roll String: 1d61 6-Sided Dice: (6) = 6"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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In post 540, davesaz wrote:Just realized I've been reading but not posting.
In retrospect I think MariaR did indeed crumb traitor. Too late at night to dig further but I can vote at least.
VOTE: DesperadoIn post 644, davesaz wrote:I do not agree with the common assessment of AH's entrance. I think he ISO'd the people on the biggest wagon and posted a legitimate case on one of them as a form of catchup.In post 645, davesaz wrote:I still think Desperado would be the best lynch.
I don't know where you got that dave was pushing you all day as you say later; he just says you can be traitor and votes you: which he can do if he's mafia that doesn't buy into the honestly dumb traitor huntIn post 654, davesaz wrote:Unofficial VC
Antihuman ( 5 ) - (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ThinkBig, Alisae, Superhans)
ThinkBig ( 2 ) - (Antihuman, Realeo)
Desperado ( 2 ) - (Dunnstral, davesaz)
Realeo ( 1 ) - (algebra)
Gamma Emerald (1) - ssbm_Kyouko
Not Voting (1) - Kop
8 hours remaining
I still have doubts about Antihuman being scum but it's in town's best interests to avoid a no-lynch. And I could be wrong...
VOTE: Antihuman
That should be L-1. Superhans' vote was not because ssbm_Kyouko had moved off.
He does nothing to push that and then votes the largest wagon - if he's scum it's rather unlucky that traitor died while he was set to coast pushing you
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