In post 339, SirCakez wrote:TBH I can't remember why I was town reading them which isn't really a good sign
On the second thing I just disagree but w/e
I don't like these long back-and-forths, they usually aren't productive, so if someone else wants me to point out other things I disliked about that post, I will.
In post 310, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.
VOTE: SirCakez
Can you carry on this train of thought? Anyone can read and it doesn't tell us much, I want to know what stood out to you and made you think "scum"
/Gin
I'm scum reading SC because I found that he's not really taking any initiative and his case on Titus is poor.
Take his 30 for example where he described the game state. Instead of making an effort to change it, he simply just sulks and calls it dead. Prior to that post, PP had suggested that we should talk about who to vote for Rouge Leader and Titus casts a naked voted for Infinity. Those posts were things he could have commented on if he found the game was dead.
In his 182 and 279, he seems to be hinting that he has a scum read on AJ and me, but doesn't follow up at all with his suspicions.
I didn't pay much attention to it the first time but after a reread I noticed how awkward he was when he voted for Titus in 81. I'm not sure if was a hint at a role or what but it read to me like he was trying to play his vote off as a joke because he either had a very weak reason or one that he thought wouldn't be too convincing if people questioned him on why he voted for her. The reasoning for the vote is also pretty bad. Effort is NAI and trying too hard can easily come from town who want to work with people they town read or have people sheep their reads because they are confident in them.
No it doesn't. You asked why you would fake your response, I said you probably couldn't help but fake it.
Not that, the "what is fake about it?" that was the initial question.
Nero scumreading me is unsurprising, probably town really as I think he'd want to keep me around for a later mislynch as scum
LUV's "I read his ISO and older games and don't think this is town!cakez" is total bullshit though, especially since it came right after I said he was pinging me
Molla's naked voting is shity too but iirc Molla never explains things
Princess's complete lack of game awareness with their vote on me for Rogue Leader is odd but I want to say it's derptown, as I think scum wouldn't want to stick out so much with trying to put someone being wagoned in a power position
I'm not really scumreading Titus anymore (she's null now) so
VOTE: AJ
P-edit: Hi TTH! I'm not avoiding you guys, I just didn't think to ask about your Princess read. TBH I can't remember why I was town reading them which isn't really a good sign so I'm going to reread them and Klingon since Klingon is being wagoned and I have no read there.
My LUV scumread was initially from how it feels like he's following the crowd (sheeping my alban scumread, sheeping a vote for Infinity rogue leader, sheeping Molla on Piper's post restriction being annoying) and then jumping to respond to a joke that wasn't aimed at him felt weird. And then his vote with some really weak reasons on me is terrible.
VOTE: AJ
Reposting this in case Fire misses my vote in the spoiler
A couple of your points are blatant misrepresentation.
1.) I'm not scum reading Alban and I never was. He's been null for me since the start.
2.)The joke you made about v/LA wasn't clear who it was directed towards.
3.) I didn't give more than one reason prior to this post for why I'm voting for you.
But I am good as scum too. In the two games I was scum, I won one, and in the other I was unfortunately night-killed by the serial killer but had I been alive, I wouldn't be caught I think. Gin was a part of it.
There was one more on one other site which went terribly for me coz I misunderstood the rules of the greater mafia set-up. I unfortunately revealed something which caught up to me, all coz it was my first time playing that set-up and coz mod didn't get back to me about my queries.
In short, I am comf-ier playing town, but I could turn out to be a sly mafia. I have a guilty conscience as mafia which I think reflects in my posts and makes my posts appear pretty town-like. Also probably coz people think I am too dumb to be a mafia Usual suspects kinda scenario I guess. Which helps me escape lynches effectively.
I am sorry, i am here, i have read up to page 11 but wanted to post to say that i am almost caught up but it appears that i have 3 hours left to pick up my prod. I am here.
For all people are susceptible to
Subliminal Propaganda. Reform
your mind to accept the
Truth
, accept the
Hype
and dont drink of the juice. The
Illuminati
is a figment of your shattered mind but you are real.
Dead people receive more flowers than the living ones because regret is stronger than gratitude. ~ Anne Frank
In post 312, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm not really seeing why people are scum reading KL. Entrance was awkward and the over justification for the prod dodge is a bit of a concern but she at least gave some reads. She'll have to explain those when she gets back at least and if there is more than just what has been discussed, she'll have to interact with that as well. I rather wait and see with her.
All of her reads were townreads. Which alignment do you propose is more likely to give out townreads like candy, especially that early, especially when they don't think
literally anything that's been discussed up to that point was alignment indicative?
But I am good as scum too. In the two games I was scum, I won one, and in the other I was unfortunately night-killed by the serial killer but had I been alive, I wouldn't be caught I think. Gin was a part of it.
There was one more on one other site which went terribly for me coz I misunderstood the rules of the greater mafia set-up. I unfortunately revealed something which caught up to me, all coz it was my first time playing that set-up and coz mod didn't get back to me about my queries.
In short, I am comf-ier playing town, but I could turn out to be a sly mafia. I have a guilty conscience as mafia which I think reflects in my posts and makes my posts appear pretty town-like. Also probably coz people think I am too dumb to be a mafia Usual suspects kinda scenario I guess. Which helps me escape lynches effectively.
Did you play with someone called Secret Agent Jin? I don't recall playing with you
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 331, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:About the Rogue Leader thing, I think it's a disservice to vote yourself as captain. The way it's set up, it's like we can vote to lynch someone and that's who we think is scummy, as for voting for rogue leader, it's like voting for who your strongest town read is.
Basically, if you're town, then people will see that and you'll be elected and it seriously discredits a whole other dimension to the game that can be analyzed if you vote yourself.
/Gin
Gin is overthinking things. Nero is bleeding Town all over the place, and is actively gamesolving. He's a good Rogue Leader for now.
In post 353, SirCakez wrote:I would <.<
I feel like no matter what I say you're gonna keep scumreading me anyway tho
@infinity
Don't play the pity me card. I will vote you on principle. Fibd scum. Not this vote the popular wagon crap.
I wasn't trying to get pity, I was telling off Infinity for acting like what I answered would actually affect his opinions
And I'm voting AJ, who is definitely not a popular wagon right now
In post 310, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.
VOTE: SirCakez
Can you carry on this train of thought? Anyone can read and it doesn't tell us much, I want to know what stood out to you and made you think "scum"
/Gin
I'm scum reading SC because I found that he's not really taking any initiative and his case on Titus is poor.
Take his 30 for example where he described the game state. Instead of making an effort to change it, he simply just sulks and calls it dead. Prior to that post, PP had suggested that we should talk about who to vote for Rouge Leader and Titus casts a naked voted for Infinity. Those posts were things he could have commented on if he found the game was dead.
In his 182 and 279, he seems to be hinting that he has a scum read on AJ and me, but doesn't follow up at all with his suspicions.
Ok yes I could have done more to lift the game state when it was dead, I admit.
But how can you say I haven't followed up my AJ suspicions? I'm voting him.
I didn't pay much attention to it the first time but after a reread I noticed how awkward he was when he voted for Titus in 81. I'm not sure if was a hint at a role or what but it read to me like he was trying to play his vote off as a joke because he either had a very weak reason or one that he thought wouldn't be too convincing if people questioned him on why he voted for her. The reasoning for the vote is also pretty bad. Effort is NAI and trying too hard can easily come from town who want to work with people they town read or have people sheep their reads because they are confident in them.
The spirits thing was a joke. Why can't I make a joke while making a serious vote?
The "effort is NAI" thing I've already spent a while arguing over, and I've realized it's wrong since.
-snip big quote-
A couple of your points are blatant misrepresentation.
1.) I'm not scum reading Alban and I never was. He's been null for me since the start.
2.)The joke you made about v/LA wasn't clear who it was directed towards.
3.) I didn't give more than one reason prior to this post for why I'm voting for you.
-Your "you're overreacting" post aimed at alban was definitely implying a scumread
-I thought it was, but I'm biased since I asked so I'll leave you alone on that.
-You gave "Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC."
Which is presumably meta and a dislike of some kind of my posts (???). So two reasons, if you will. Not really a big deal, but both of those reasons suck without being backed up.
Also, Alban's recent posts read like scum fluffing trying to avoid producing serious content
But I am good as scum too. In the two games I was scum, I won one, and in the other I was unfortunately night-killed by the serial killer but had I been alive, I wouldn't be caught I think. Gin was a part of it.
There was one more on one other site which went terribly for me coz I misunderstood the rules of the greater mafia set-up. I unfortunately revealed something which caught up to me, all coz it was my first time playing that set-up and coz mod didn't get back to me about my queries.
In short, I am comf-ier playing town, but I could turn out to be a sly mafia. I have a guilty conscience as mafia which I think reflects in my posts and makes my posts appear pretty town-like. Also probably coz people think I am too dumb to be a mafia Usual suspects kinda scenario I guess. Which helps me escape lynches effectively.
In post 312, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm not really seeing why people are scum reading KL. Entrance was awkward and the over justification for the prod dodge is a bit of a concern but she at least gave some reads. She'll have to explain those when she gets back at least and if there is more than just what has been discussed, she'll have to interact with that as well. I rather wait and see with her.
All of her reads were townreads. Which alignment do you propose is more likely to give out townreads like candy, especially that early, especially when they don't think
literally anything that's been discussed up to that point was alignment indicative?
Generally scum but I think it comes down to play style. Some people prefer town hunting or are better at town hunting than others.
In post 363, Infinity 324 wrote:LUV, how do you see the difference between your town and scum meta? Do you think you could fake your town meta as scum?
Hard to say really since I always get that I'm a hard read as either alignment. I will say that I'm more loose as town but I'm not sure if that's the right word. Definitely think I can fake my town game though.
In post 353, SirCakez wrote:I would <.<
I feel like no matter what I say you're gonna keep scumreading me anyway tho
@infinity
Don't play the pity me card. I will vote you on principle. Fibd scum. Not this vote the popular wagon crap.
I wasn't trying to get pity, I was telling off Infinity for acting like what I answered would actually affect his opinions
And I'm voting AJ, who is definitely not a popular wagon right now
In post 310, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.
VOTE: SirCakez
Can you carry on this train of thought? Anyone can read and it doesn't tell us much, I want to know what stood out to you and made you think "scum"
/Gin
I'm scum reading SC because I found that he's not really taking any initiative and his case on Titus is poor.
Take his 30 for example where he described the game state. Instead of making an effort to change it, he simply just sulks and calls it dead. Prior to that post, PP had suggested that we should talk about who to vote for Rouge Leader and Titus casts a naked voted for Infinity. Those posts were things he could have commented on if he found the game was dead.
In his 182 and 279, he seems to be hinting that he has a scum read on AJ and me, but doesn't follow up at all with his suspicions.
Ok yes I could have done more to lift the game state when it was dead, I admit.
But how can you say I haven't followed up my AJ suspicions? I'm voting him.
I didn't pay much attention to it the first time but after a reread I noticed how awkward he was when he voted for Titus in 81. I'm not sure if was a hint at a role or what but it read to me like he was trying to play his vote off as a joke because he either had a very weak reason or one that he thought wouldn't be too convincing if people questioned him on why he voted for her. The reasoning for the vote is also pretty bad. Effort is NAI and trying too hard can easily come from town who want to work with people they town read or have people sheep their reads because they are confident in them.
The spirits thing was a joke. Why can't I make a joke while making a serious vote?
The "effort is NAI" thing I've already spent a while arguing over, and I've realized it's wrong since.
-snip big quote-
A couple of your points are blatant misrepresentation.
1.) I'm not scum reading Alban and I never was. He's been null for me since the start.
2.)The joke you made about v/LA wasn't clear who it was directed towards.
3.) I didn't give more than one reason prior to this post for why I'm voting for you.
-Your "you're overreacting" post aimed at alban was definitely implying a scumread
-I thought it was, but I'm biased since I asked so I'll leave you alone on that.
-You gave "Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC."
Which is presumably meta and a dislike of some kind of my posts (???). So two reasons, if you will. Not really a big deal, but both of those reasons suck without being backed up.
Also, Alban's recent posts read like scum fluffing trying to avoid producing serious content
But I am good as scum too. In the two games I was scum, I won one, and in the other I was unfortunately night-killed by the serial killer but had I been alive, I wouldn't be caught I think. Gin was a part of it.
There was one more on one other site which went terribly for me coz I misunderstood the rules of the greater mafia set-up. I unfortunately revealed something which caught up to me, all coz it was my first time playing that set-up and coz mod didn't get back to me about my queries.
In short, I am comf-ier playing town, but I could turn out to be a sly mafia. I have a guilty conscience as mafia which I think reflects in my posts and makes my posts appear pretty town-like. Also probably coz people think I am too dumb to be a mafia Usual suspects kinda scenario I guess. Which helps me escape lynches effectively.
alban wrote:Oh yeah. It was Jin. Not you.
1.) No it was not implying a scum read at all. If it was, I would've voted for him when I said it.
2.) I mentioned I reread your ISO to make it clear how I came to the conclusion that this isn't your town game. My only reason given there was meta.
3.) I missed your vote on AJ but the point still stands for now, but to be fair he hasn't been here to answer questions you may have for him.
In post 353, SirCakez wrote:I would <.<
I feel like no matter what I say you're gonna keep scumreading me anyway tho
@infinity
Don't play the pity me card. I will vote you on principle. Fibd scum. Not this vote the popular wagon crap.
I wasn't trying to get pity, I was telling off Infinity for acting like what I answered would actually affect his opinions
And I'm voting AJ, who is definitely not a popular wagon right now
In post 310, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.
VOTE: SirCakez
Can you carry on this train of thought? Anyone can read and it doesn't tell us much, I want to know what stood out to you and made you think "scum"
/Gin
I'm scum reading SC because I found that he's not really taking any initiative and his case on Titus is poor.
Take his 30 for example where he described the game state. Instead of making an effort to change it, he simply just sulks and calls it dead. Prior to that post, PP had suggested that we should talk about who to vote for Rouge Leader and Titus casts a naked voted for Infinity. Those posts were things he could have commented on if he found the game was dead.
In his 182 and 279, he seems to be hinting that he has a scum read on AJ and me, but doesn't follow up at all with his suspicions.
Ok yes I could have done more to lift the game state when it was dead, I admit.
But how can you say I haven't followed up my AJ suspicions? I'm voting him.
I didn't pay much attention to it the first time but after a reread I noticed how awkward he was when he voted for Titus in 81. I'm not sure if was a hint at a role or what but it read to me like he was trying to play his vote off as a joke because he either had a very weak reason or one that he thought wouldn't be too convincing if people questioned him on why he voted for her. The reasoning for the vote is also pretty bad. Effort is NAI and trying too hard can easily come from town who want to work with people they town read or have people sheep their reads because they are confident in them.
The spirits thing was a joke. Why can't I make a joke while making a serious vote?
The "effort is NAI" thing I've already spent a while arguing over, and I've realized it's wrong since.
-snip big quote-
A couple of your points are blatant misrepresentation.
1.) I'm not scum reading Alban and I never was. He's been null for me since the start.
2.)The joke you made about v/LA wasn't clear who it was directed towards.
3.) I didn't give more than one reason prior to this post for why I'm voting for you.
-Your "you're overreacting" post aimed at alban was definitely implying a scumread
-I thought it was, but I'm biased since I asked so I'll leave you alone on that.
-You gave "Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC."
Which is presumably meta and a dislike of some kind of my posts (???). So two reasons, if you will. Not really a big deal, but both of those reasons suck without being backed up.
Also, Alban's recent posts read like scum fluffing trying to avoid producing serious content
But I am good as scum too. In the two games I was scum, I won one, and in the other I was unfortunately night-killed by the serial killer but had I been alive, I wouldn't be caught I think. Gin was a part of it.
There was one more on one other site which went terribly for me coz I misunderstood the rules of the greater mafia set-up. I unfortunately revealed something which caught up to me, all coz it was my first time playing that set-up and coz mod didn't get back to me about my queries.
In short, I am comf-ier playing town, but I could turn out to be a sly mafia. I have a guilty conscience as mafia which I think reflects in my posts and makes my posts appear pretty town-like. Also probably coz people think I am too dumb to be a mafia Usual suspects kinda scenario I guess. Which helps me escape lynches effectively.
alban wrote:Oh yeah. It was Jin. Not you.
1.) No it was not implying a scum read at all. If it was, I would've voted for him when I said it.
2.) I mentioned I reread your ISO to make it clear how I came to the conclusion that this isn't your town game. My only reason given there was meta.
3.) I missed your vote on AJ but the point still stands for now, but to be fair he hasn't been here to answer questions you may have for him.
-You don't need to vote someone to have a scumread on them. I thought you were tho so I'll give you this.
-Another misinterpretation <.<
-I mean I don't think he's been V/LA or anything so that's not really a good sign