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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:51 am

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jordan is a better vote.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:48 pm

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MoS wrote: jordan is a better vote.
Why do you say that? I found him fairly benign on my read.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:40 pm

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Yes, do tell, MoS.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:05 pm

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Cuz I'm voting him. And because he still hasn't responded to Lowell.
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:16 am

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I'm not posting here again until the Mod recognises my existence in this game.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:12 am

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Im not posting here again until BM stops throwing a huff for a mods simple mistake.

sigh...
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:39 am

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Porochaz wrote:Im not posting here again until BM stops throwing a huff for a mods simple mistake.

sigh...
*continues throwing huff over mods mistake*

Cmon guys, its the lesser of 2 evils here.

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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:44 am

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Votecount

Battle Mage (4) -- mandalorian, Gage, pete d, volkan
JordanA24 (3) -- Mastermind of Sin, Albert B. Rampage, Dragon Phoenix
Unright (1) -- curiouskarmadog
Dragon Phoenix (1) -- Lowell

Not Voting: Bookitty, Unright, JordanA24, Porochaz, Battle Mage
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:47 am

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Ok as it appears i am not currently voting, and i dont have many suspicions atm that i can recall, i will go back to my last suspicion, which was that of Porochaz. Tell me Porochaz, did you ever answer the questions in my PbPA of you?
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:07 am

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Okay, I had time to read the thread. Some notes I came up with:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:Look, the dumbass outs himself at lynch -2. K. Then he implies that one of two people is his mason partner by saying that person 'bussed' him when I didn't even vote him. Since the other person is Unright, I have to out myself lest Unright the scum claims he is mason, which would be very believable.
I don't understand why a mason would believe his mason buddy would allow someone else to claim mason without denying it. This whole mason claim is just fishy as hell. Gage is a newbie so maybe that's why. What the hell is submarining?

Why is Battle Mage voting for Gage AFTER his partner claimed mason with him?
Ah. Because he hasn't read the thread. Still really scummy though. Why vote if you haven't read it? And then making this comment to Mandalorian: "Lack of reading the game ftl." Hypocrite much?

If Gage weren't claiming Mason I'd be voting him for trailing other people's votes.

I don't understand this Unright trap thing. Unright seems mildly scummy, sure, but I don't care how much a newbie you are, you're not going to let random people claim to be your mason partner, and scum isn't going to claim mason knowing that they'll instantly be contradicted. This seems just dumb from start to finish to me. Either Gage and ABR are masons, or they're both scum. There's not a third option that I see.

I didn't understand the suspicion on Jordan and I still don't. Unright seems pretty disengaged from this game.

Battle Mage votes for Gage AGAIN? Honestly, what is he thinking?

Jordan votes ABR for asking for a claim. I don't understand this either. And if BM is scum, this is something I want to remember from Jordan: "You giving up already bro?" Really odd.

Battle Mage does a PBPA on some people. It's filled with misstatements, CKD points them out, and is rewarded with a completely wishy-washy PBPA on himself. This is a direct quote of Battle Mage lying:

Regarding Nekka-Lucifer whom I replaced:
Battle Mage wrote:I feel he makes a fair point, and he gets some good reactions, primarily from Unright and CKD, who both try and push a wagon on him.
And this to CKD:
Battle Mage wrote:I didnt say you pushed a lynch on him, i said that you reacted badly to him.
My predecessor, Nekka-Lucifer, claims that he's "on the fence with BM", which makes me think he wasn't very engaged with the game (his weird exit seems to bear that out) because I don't see how you don't find BM's behaviour extremely scummy. At best you're left with WIFOM arguments that I don't feel like having with myself.

Playing stupidly doesn't mean you're not scum, and assuming otherwise lets scum behave scummily without repercussion. Sometimes scum IS stupid. I disagree with this statement by MoS: "BM is probably protown. Only an idiot would try to lynch him at this point. *checks VC* Oh yeah..."

Not liking MoS's defense of Battle Mage. Not sure why CKD would just accept it and unvote either. I don't agree with pete d's analysis post, but it seems honest. Later pete d seems to see some of the things I've seen from BM.

Having real uncertainty as to whether MoS is scum buddying up to BM town, or they're scumbuddies, or MoS is actually thinking BM IS town. I don't understand why they're vouching for each other.

Jordan does a PBPA. Some oddness, he puts a lot of suspicion on Dragon Phoenix, I don't see the reasoning. Agree on Kakeng.

I'm sure ABR is a mason, but I don't like the lurking combined with the vote on Jordan which isn't explained. Really don't like pete d seemingly jumping on reasons to vote people without clear reasons (maybe I'm missing his point).

I really agree with Vollkan's analysis. Logical and clear. I do think Nekka was pretty disengaged from the game, and tunnelling on BM (and I understand why, but it's still not helpful to town) and the people he puts at the top of the list are the people I think I'd put at the top of the list too. I'd switch Unright and MoS.

I do find noncommittal and wishy-washy posts pretty scummy, as it looks like keeping your options open and cozying up to town, so some suspicion of pete d.

Some argument about the length of the game, the lack of posts... Nekka makes his stupid replacement request. (If I hadn't replaced him, I might be voting him for that.)

The masons are the same as confirmed, in my eyes, so as I see it, Battle Mage, Mastermind of Sin and pete d are the scummiest.

At the risk of MoS calling me an idiot (oh noes) I'm going to:

unvote; vote Battle Mage
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:48 am

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BM claim

Vote BM
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:42 am

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morons...
I'm not claiming till i get to -1. And if you had any sense, you wouldnt put me there.

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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:06 pm

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bookitty wrote:Really don't like pete d seemingly jumping on reasons to vote people without clear reasons (maybe I'm missing his point).
"people"? More like "Nekka". If you look at Nekka's posts, he pretty much active-lurked all game (he posted a reasonable amount, but nothing of substance).
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:13 pm

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I understand why you'd vote Nekka, pete d. I didn't like him on a reread, and I'm the one who replaced him. I think his exit was horrible, and indicative of his lazy, unhelpful play.

My notes were referring to the fact that I didn't get a good sense of why you were jumping on and off Nekka, and then voting Battle Mage given your previous statements. I agree that Battle Mage is scummy, obviously, I just didn't know why YOU were voting him.

Hope this is more clear.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:18 pm

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Ah. Well, apparently nobody else wanted to vote Nekka, and I'm not so sure about ckd anymore. Regardless, something needed to happen, the game was dragging, so I joined the BM wagon in preference to the Jordan wagon.
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:15 pm

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Battle Mage wrote:morons...
I'm not claiming till i get to -1. And if you had any sense, you wouldnt put me there.

I await a response from Porochaz.
vote BM...


think that is -1..

claim now?
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:36 am

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This is officially the worst wagon ever. :roll:

I'm the Doc... :x

Will claim flavour as soon as the Mod resend me my role pm. lol

STILL want an answer from Porochaz, before i die.

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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:39 am

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I'm pretty sure he's lying. Anyone up for lynching him anyway ?
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:06 am

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jesus...

unvote BM


although you would think the Doc would have kept closer attention to the game...
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:07 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm pretty sure he's lying. Anyone up for lynching him anyway ?
yeh i havent breadcrumbed, although i was trying out an interesting idea at the start of the game, which apparently has backfired. lol

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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:17 am

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I did not agree with the bandwagon, but my gut reaction to the claim is: I don't believe it. Not willing to string up a claimed doc just yet though.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:19 am

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all i ask is that we at least halt the proceedings until Porochaz comes out of hiding, and responds.
After that, it doesnt really matter what happens to me-its not as if there's gonna be 2 Docs in this game...

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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:24 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm pretty sure he's lying. Anyone up for lynching him anyway ?
yeh i havent breadcrumbed, although i was trying out an interesting idea at the start of the game, which apparently has backfired. lol

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idea=vote claimed mason twice then claim ignorance?
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:29 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm pretty sure he's lying. Anyone up for lynching him anyway ?
yeh i havent breadcrumbed, although i was trying out an interesting idea at the start of the game, which apparently has backfired. lol

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idea=vote claimed mason twice then claim ignorance?
erm, no. lol
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:31 am

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I'm not buying the claim either.

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