The Hobbit Mafia - GAME OVER

MMCL · Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:30 am

/confirm (here and by IM previously)

MMCL · Post Post #47 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 17, 2004 8:59 pm

4 deaths - ack... not so good.... however we do get lots of info. 2 baddies down is good.

I agree that Gollum is probably the neck-snapper (I saw him more of a biter and scratcher myself)- although I may be getting confused but don't the trolls in The Hobbit talk of snapping Bilbo's neck at one point. *makes a note to check*
There were 3 trolls - so that would fit with a nice size scum group.

I also agree that Gandalf is the most likely candidate for the lightning... he dispatches Wargs in this manner in LOTR, if memory serves. I would say that Gandalf is probably a vigi of some desciption - or maybe a doc with a percentage kill rate (The Hobbit always played Gandalf as more of an oddball and not very helpful all the time - from what we know of him in LOTR he could have done a lot more to save the dwarfs through various encounters than he did IMHO).

Goblins definately use scimitars...

Does anyone think Boern will be included?

MMCL · Post Post #49 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:59 am

I thought the Elves of Murkwood weren't known for their magic but rather for laughing and drinking?

And yes you are right about the spelling... I couldn't remember.

MMCL · Post Post #52 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:05 am

Coolbot that would not fit with the story though. Gandalf does not kill Smaug.

MMCL · Post Post #55 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:17 am

hmmm

MMCL · Post Post #60 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:31 am

Am I reading to much into this:

IS wrote:Like any night 1, we are better just just picking someone at random and killing them dead.

Saying night 1 instead of day 1 is one thing... as is using the term kill instead of lynch... but both together?

MMCL · Post Post #63 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:46 am

He threatened to eat Bilbo if Bilbo didn't play the Riddle Game... it's a possibility then, that he is a 1-shot SK maybe?

MMCL · Post Post #90 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:33 pm

I think the suggestion that the 13 dwarves - whose name rhyme in groups of 2 or 3 - could be related in some way, is possible... and it is most likely IMHO that they are all townies (I don't see how you could split them into townies and a scum group purely based on the events of TH).
I had a think of how I would set this game up and it is what I would most likely do - maybe make a couple of small mason groups amongst the dwarves whose names rhyme?
Also, I suppose, the likelihood that there are 'sibling' pairs amongst the group is high.

I don't think JK needs a vote for it, so I will

FOS: jediknight

for good measure for his comments about GOLLUM.

Bilbo was hired for the story as a burglar - I think he is very likely to be a thief character who can investigate one player each night and find out what they are carrying (eg their item incriminates mafia).

MMCL · Post Post #98 (isolation #8) » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:57 am

I'm torn between the JediKnight bandwagon that has started rolling and voting for IS.. Need to re-read it all and make a decision I guess!

MMCL · Post Post #104 (isolation #9) » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:30 am

I decided...

Vote:Jediknight

MMCL · Post Post #135 (isolation #10) » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:37 pm

My only comment is I see it as clutching for straws...

I thought it was a wicked weak role myself. Perhaps Thorin could shed some more light?

Yeah - why doesn't Thorin just come out and tell you who is so you can protect him tonight. That would be a really good idea.

For reference, everything after the quote is sarcasm

MMCL · Post Post #155 (isolation #11) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:26 am

So far I see three people that strike me as curious...

jediknight - seems to be playing like a newbie - complete with the over-eagerness... taking this into account I still don't see a solid defence from him, rather pushing away accusations with the "I know, but what about person X..." routine.

IS - confuses the hell out of me but due to my non-understanding of him, I have relied on my knowledge of him from chat mafia. His style is confusing no matter how he plays - and in this game, so far I am seeing 'things' that remind me of him as an SK in chat mafia... can't quite place it though.... maybe "it's just a feeling" as he would say...

Yaw - Im so not sure about Yaw; so far but his unvote seems almost staged. The old addage keep your friends close and your enemies closer would apply until I've made up my mind.

All in all, Im happy with my vote on jediknight.

MMCL · Post Post #182 (isolation #12) » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:48 am

FOS: Indentureddjinn

He's been reading the thread for ages

MMCL · Post Post #199 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:27 pm

Err... it's twilight by my count.... So I'm going to bed early.

MMCL · Post Post #217 (isolation #14) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:33 am

Having just re-read things myself, I am tempted to join the bandwagon. Not only was the bickering a give-away, but the IS issue still grates on me...

I can't quite put my finger on it but Im suspicious of IS too...

For now, I think Korais', defence was too 'over-the-top' and seems just staged.

Vote: Korais

as one vote does not a lynch make and suspicion does not always have to have a reason - sometimes gut feelings can be remarkably accurate.

I will

FOS: IS

too for good measure.

MMCL · Post Post #220 (isolation #15) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:53 am

It makes me think you are deliberately creating a distance between yourself and the troll...

MMCL · Post Post #265 (isolation #16) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:15 am

I agree with the Korais should claim now 'calls'... and also agree that we should not lynch until the 2nd replacement has had time to join.

MMCL · Post Post #271 (isolation #17) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:54 am

FOS: meaning of life 42

MMCL · Post Post #312 (isolation #18) » Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:05 pm

Quite - although it is depressing for Mike, it is great news for us....

Can someone explain GG and BG for me?

MMCL · Post Post #314 (isolation #19) » Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:48 pm

D'oh - Good Guys and Bad Guys...

MMCL · Post Post #316 (isolation #20) » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:04 am

Girl Guides is better...

MMCL · Post Post #319 (isolation #21) » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:49 am

Quite Yaw... Let's have a look at the list of players left:

coolbot
Corsato

drummer97531

Flying Dutchman

Gaspode

indentureddjinn

Internet Stranger

Jaylen

Lord Gurgi
meaning of life 42
MMCL

Murk

Narninian

PeaceBringer

Shivan_Dragon

the silent speaker

Tigris

Uraj45

Yaw
Yggdrasil(replacing Ibanez (replacing chaotic_diablo))

If your name is in bold it is because I haven't seen much of you in this game (no figures to back it up - just my personal opinion) and I would ask for you to get remotivated.

MMCL · Post Post #325 (isolation #22) » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:07 am

FOS: meaning of life 42

because it appears he is too eager to please our good Yaw... not that it's a bad thing, but you don't have to listen to people's suggestions and one vote does not a scumbag make...

(taking it off when someone suggests not lynching seems to eager to please).

MMCL · Post Post #336 (isolation #23) » Sun Aug 15, 2004 12:16 am

"There may be trouble ahead,
but while there's moonlight and dancing,
and love and romance...
let's face the music and dance..."

Either way we look at it - well done IS and Yaw... let's not start bitching amongst ourselves and catch some more, eh?

MMCL · Post Post #338 (isolation #24) » Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:34 am

LOL... I voted jediknight and Korais' so far... why?

MMCL · Post Post #341 (isolation #25) » Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:21 am

No-one yet... I am suspicious of three people

MMCL · Post Post #344 (isolation #26) » Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:38 am

LOL - One of them is you ... sorry! I don't mind you being honest - but having your own opinion is a good thing. It might be wrong, but doesn't mean that you are wrong to have it. Opinions change granted, but you seemed to eager to please for my liking. What more can I say?

The other is IS - as I have stated before, and the third is someone I will keep under my hat for now!

MMCL · Post Post #346 (isolation #27) » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:20 am

I'm not lonely...

However the techno badger is quite scary...

*would hate to see you mad*

MMCL · Post Post #363 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:23 am

*is confused* ... what if the lurkers who aren't scum are in a different group than the scum that aren't lurkers...

LOL

MMCL · Post Post #367 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:24 am

Where are we?

MMCL · Post Post #369 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:49 am

Oh yeah..

MMCL · Post Post #380 (isolation #31) » Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:20 pm

*waits patiently*

MMCL · Post Post #388 (isolation #32) » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:55 pm

I'm torn between Coolbot and ID... I can see reasons for voting both and I can't make my mind up..

MMCL · Post Post #392 (isolation #33) » Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:23 am

I decided... I'm gonna vote ID - but as soon as I see a votecount cos we must be pretty close

MMCL · Post Post #400 (isolation #34) » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:49 am

Bandwagons... hmmm.... Well Im not gonna vote ID if he is at band camp.... let's hope he doesn't meet a flute wielding nympho (or maybe he will

)

So... Im a bit curious about the sudden spate of attacks on Coolbot, and although he was my second choice, I do find it most curious that everyone is not jumping off the ID bandwagon to start FOSsing him.... almost like laying the seeds for something IMHO.

No vote from me yet... Im watching 3 people with great interest however.

MMCL · Post Post #402 (isolation #35) » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:53 am

That's a lot of polishing his flute... I agree - he should be replaced.

MMCL · Post Post #404 (isolation #36) » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:57 am

So you are voting ID to make the mod replace him?

MMCL · Post Post #417 (isolation #37) » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:55 pm

I think the last set of posts reveals a lot.

Coolbot and Yaw are both seem sure the other is a Goblin (not Gollum, or a spider). I now suspect them both because whoever we lynch - assuming we find they are a goblin, the other will rely on that as innocence-fodder (I like that term!). The fued between them is akin to the fued between Yaw and Jedi (to use coolbot's expression).

I think a vote for ID is wasted at this time and would prefer my vote on Yaw or Coolbot. My suggestion would be - due to the nature of the continued argument - that whichever we lynch, any cops then investigate the other so we can prove/disprove the distancing theory between the two.

If Yaw is a goblin, then 'dobbing in' two of his scum buddies is a brilliant and very dangerous move on his part - therefore:

Vote: Coolbot

MMCL · Post Post #420 (isolation #38) » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:08 am

I will wait to see if there is a counter-claim ....

MMCL · Post Post #422 (isolation #39) » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:39 am

Apologies Yaw... I must've misread... however - I'm sure someone made that suggestion - I will go back and check.

MMCL · Post Post #426 (isolation #40) » Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:14 pm

My bad, you are correct Yaw.

Unvote

as I am going to bed and there has been no counter claim yet.

MMCL · Post Post #430 (isolation #41) » Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:10 am

"Stuck in the middle with you..."

FOS: Yaw and Coolbot

- whether for show, of because it is genuine, this fued needs settling. I'm gonna vote one or the other today but I haven't decided which.

MMCL · Post Post #460 (isolation #42) » Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:52 pm

Ooh three interesting things in a few hours.

Time to digest and then more feedback as I know it.

MMCL · Post Post #471 (isolation #43) » Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:54 am

MOL 42, You should do this....

Hi all
Just as a note, I am away with work until friday night.
So I will probably be unable to contribute in thread (internet access and free-time at Hotels dependent).
Thanks
-MMCL

For note - that away warning is authentic.

MMCL · Post Post #525 (isolation #44) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:49 am

Sorry I haven't been around for quite a bit - I blame work, yaw and uraj.... anyways - I'd agree with the assesment of Argoti but I want to here from him first.

MMCL · Post Post #556 (isolation #45) » Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:42 am

Sorry - I've been a bit absent - why argoti?

MMCL · Post Post #558 (isolation #46) » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:09 am

sounds good - what defence from argoti?

MMCL · Post Post #566 (isolation #47) » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:14 pm

Vote: Argoti

...

MMCL · Post Post #582 (isolation #48) » Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:42 am

I suppose the only defense I can put up is that I have been unavailable a lot recently. Trips abroad -with work- and such have meant my time here has been quite limited. In a lot of cases I have just been following what everyone else has done... and yes, that is my fault.

As proof of this - you will see my participation level in all my games has decreased -Babylon5 mafia is still yet to start (

), and the conservative nature you describe, is a result of my absences. Without firm understanding of things I haven't been able to commit myself to going on the offensive and have relied on quick reads and asking questions.

I will try to keep up and participate more.

MMCL · Post Post #598 (isolation #49) » Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:17 am

Im currently torn between TSS and Uraj...

Vote: Uraj

- can we have a votecount please Mr Mod?

MMCL · Post Post #604 (isolation #50) » Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:04 am

Coolbot - I find myself in a similar situation to AndrewS. Nothing much jumps out at me, currently... I can see people's arguments for voting one person, or another... I ask a few questions and follow the guidance of others... Even I will admit I have not been actively helping the town... however...

My problem currently is that I have become 'detached' from the games I am in due to lots of small absences (work commitments - a few days at a time, over the past four weeks). Where I would normally put clues and information together from post to post - and make notes about people, I haven't had the luxury of a full read and thus, the ability to grasp a full understanding of the situation. I am dry when it comes to ideas...
All that being said, I am off work tomorrow (YAY) and plan to sit down in all my games and work out where I am, and what I really think.

I can only ask that you believe me, however - I know several people can vouch for my absences, hell - read any of my games currently and you will see that I am stating exactly the same things in all games. Maybe I should consider asking to be replaced... hohum, tomorrow will tell...

Where am I currently?

I voted Uraj, not because of his lurkiness (hell, I am guilty of that), but because of his hedging his bets comment:

I'm willing to put my vote on jediknight although I won't do it yet so that everyone on your list can talk. The behavior doesen't spark much suspicion in me really but the claim is just rediculous. Even if he's not scum, we don't lose too much in lynching him. It's pretty good bet.

Ultimately, if you want me to claim, I can do so - without giving too much away (of course) - however I do have an important role to play in this game.

MMCL · Post Post #626 (isolation #51) » Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:48 pm

Seriously guys - I've had the week from hell... First my PC dies completely then I've been mega ill - my face is numb and Im feverish... Im shaking as I type this... going back to bed shortly. Don't replace me as I can help a lot more in this game.

MMCL · Post Post #631 (isolation #52) » Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:00 pm

Unvote

I'm feeling a bit better now. Gonna re-read now and get back to you asap.

MMCL · Post Post #635 (isolation #53) » Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:51 am

OK - I have re-read the whole lot...

Nothing major jumps out at me yet - however, I find it most curious that Tigris suggests that knowing Coolbot's dwarf name will help the town. Since Coolbot had already given his dwarf's name and it hadn't been countered it's either an attempt on Tigris' part to see if Coolbot gives a different dwarf... or an attempt by a Tigris to find a specific dwarf.
Im curious as to why Tigris didn't already know the name however since Coolbot had already given it and Yaw had reposted that Coolbot was Bifur in post #612 so it's not as if the dwarf name had been lost in any of the previous pages.

Since I'm inclined to believe Coolbot (no counter, ?Tigris' test failed?) then I would suggest that Tigris is a good bet for today.

Vote: Tigris

until we get an explanation.

MMCL · Post Post #642 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:36 am

UNVOTE

OK - I am not convinced by Tigris' explanation - but I believe it requires further scrutiny.

This game seems to want to stall again, so I will add a vote for Quagmire... Lord Gurgi added nothing new, and neither really has Quagmire since he replaced LG...

Vote: Quagmire

MMCL · Post Post #664 (isolation #55) » Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:14 am

I want a name too - if we get a name and that is not countered... good, if not... Quag will get my vote.

MOD - can we have a votecount perty please.

MMCL · Post Post #672 (isolation #56) » Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:06 am

I'm gonna give him a chance too... I tend to agree that with those votes elsewhere he is jerking us around though.

Come on Quag - come and play with us

MMCL · Post Post #677 (isolation #57) » Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:14 am

Vote: Quagmire

MMCL · Post Post #679 (isolation #58) » Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:57 am

Yes - what FD said was correct Quag. You are making it worse for yourself...

FYI: Bilbo started his journey as a 'burglar' with 13 dwarves - recruited so that there would not be 13 going on the journey - Gandalf appeared and reappeared in the story as it served... Im not sure where the confusion is. And they all had names

MMCL · Post Post #682 (isolation #59) » Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:19 am

Well he was obviously scum Yaw... *rolls eyes*

MMCL · Post Post #700 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:29 am

I agree - it isn't fair to vote Uraj without a replacement for him. Are there any scum players left?

MMCL · Post Post #707 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:30 am

I agree... I will 5th the vote very shortly but want to hear from Shelper first.

MMCL · Post Post #709 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:14 am

Oh - now that is interesting.

Im not voting shelper.

MMCL · Post Post #722 (isolation #63) » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:24 am

OK - here's the reason I am reluctant to vote Shelper.

His roleclaimed character is specifically mentioned in my roleclaim. It's not the same character I have - but my character mentions his. What does that mean? Im not quite sure.

I'm in two minds over whether to vote him or not because of this.

I want to hear from him one last time - so I would ask that nobody votes him just yet - then I will make a decision.

MMCL · Post Post #725 (isolation #64) » Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:28 am

OK - I made a decision. I misled you all slightly. I don't believe Shelper for a second. Never have. But I wanted to lay a trap... Here's the score...

Yes - my role mentions Roac. But - I am not Roac. However, I figured that by casting a little doubt on Shelper's roleclaim suggesting that I might believe it, might cause the other and last goblin to reveal themselves.

I think it has.

Vote: Shelper

and I'm looking at Jaylen for tomorrow.