WWE Mafia - Smackdown! (Game Over - Off Television)

[I Am Innocent]

Meh, I was given the ability to check anyone's role PM, but I am too lazy right now. Though, I could check yours if you ask me.

Feel free to check mine, cause I don't get it.

[I Am Innocent]

Meh, I was given the ability to check anyone's role PM, but I am too lazy right now. Though, I could check yours if you ask me.

Feel free to check mine, cause I don't get it.

Yeah, looks pretty interesting, but you're aligned with town.

Any strategy suggestions?

[I Am Innocent]

Be discreet tho...don't want scum to know too much right away. Maybe refer to 1, 2, and 3?

[I Am Innocent]

Not liking Alban so far.

vote Alban

[I Am Innocent]

Actually let's clear up something, which of the 3 are the strongest, 1, 2, or 3?

[I Am Innocent]

Meh, I was given the ability to check anyone's role PM, but I am too lazy right now. Though, I could check yours if you ask me.

Feel free to check mine, cause I don't get it.

Yeah, looks pretty interesting, but you're aligned with town.

Any strategy suggestions?

First we wagon two players at random, then we see who takes which side.

not what I was hinting at!

[I Am Innocent]

Meh, I was given the ability to check anyone's role PM, but I am too lazy right now. Though, I could check yours if you ask me.

Feel free to check mine, cause I don't get it.

Yeah, looks pretty interesting, but you're aligned with town.

I dont understand how this works, in case you are not being sarcastic.
So, you will know everyone's alignment.

Or is this an x-shot ability

?

You are aware if he has this ability, asking the following question is very scummy?

[I Am Innocent]

Not liking Alban so far.

vote Alban

Reason.

Or make that plural if you want to.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

[I Am Innocent]

Not liking Alban so far.

vote Alban

Reason.

Or make that plural if you want to.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Explain.

Sorry I don't give out my early town/scum tells. I can link you to multiple games where I show this.

[I Am Innocent]

There's 0 reason why you should've checked someone right away

I personally think he's full of crap, otherwise he would have answered my 1, 2, or 3 question.

[I Am Innocent]

But then again, it is creature. You won a game as scum recently thanks to him...

[I Am Innocent]

Vote Count 1.03

Alban

(2/7)

- -Grey-, I Am Innocent

Gamma Emerald

(0/7)

-

I Am Innocent

(1/7)

- I Am Innocent

Peptobislawl

(2/7)

- Titus, Creature

Titus

(1/7)

- Vifam

-Grey-

(2/7)

- Peptobislawl, Gamma Emerald

Zefiend

(0/7)

-

MariaR

(0/7)

-

Tywin Lannister

(0/6)

-

KainTepes

(1/7)

- Alban

Vifam

(0/7)

-

Massive

(0/7)

-

Creature

(1/8)

- KainTepes

Not Voting

Zefiend, MariaR, Massive

Notes

: (expired on 2016-12-23 15:45:00) until Gamma Emerald can vote.

(expired on 2016-12-23 15:45:00) until Gamma Emerald taps out to the submission.
(expired on 2016-12-23 15:45:00) until -Grey- can vote.

(expired on 2017-01-03 19:05:00) until the end of Day One.
With 13 alive, it takes seven to lynch. (For most!)[/color][/center][/quote]

Who gave me a second vote and is using it to vote myself??!!

[I Am Innocent]

Titusss why do you tr meeeeeeee

You have zero interest in survival and your confusion reads genuine as ****.

Read 1843

[I Am Innocent]

I can't tell if the sub stops if you vote or lynch...let's test it!
VOTE: Grey

And Matt Hardy breaks the STFU!

[I Am Innocent]

Titusss why do you tr meeeeeeee

You have zero interest in survival and your confusion reads genuine as ****.

Read 1843

Ugh, meta...and a whole game...:/

Ok, let's try again, have you ever played with scum Maria before?

[I Am Innocent]

HAHAHAA THOSE ARE POINTLESS THEN

Yeah I'm not so sure. I'm starting to think it may be in town's best interest to have a self imposed deadline of more than 48 hours from the real deadline. Esp as the game goes on...

[I Am Innocent]

Titusss why do you tr meeeeeeee

You have zero interest in survival and your confusion reads genuine as ****.

Read 1843

Ugh, meta...and a whole game...:/

Ok, let's try again, have you ever played with scum Maria before?

I cannot answer this because of the ongoing games rule.

Can you be more narrow? Find a post that matches the tone?

I'll look for some in 1843 when I have some time. Scum Maria is pretty good tho, don't discount things that might seem like "zero interest in survival and...confusion"

[I Am Innocent]

I don't like this. I don't like this at all. Why stop that there? Could have waited at least a few hours.

Screw it.

619 MariaR

Armbar MariaR

Break that up.

Interesting. I think I like this

[I Am Innocent]

I don't like this. I don't like this at all. Why stop that there? Could have waited at least a few hours.

Screw it.

619 MariaR

Armbar MariaR

Break that up.

I approve.

I sorta approve. I tr Maria but others need to see it.

This makes no sense.

[I Am Innocent]

Not if I can help it
I'm going to save you

Should I block his vote...hmmm

[I Am Innocent]

Vote Count 1.04

Alban

(2/7)

- -Grey-, I Am Innocent

Gamma Emerald

(0/7)

-

I Am Innocent

(1/7)

- I Am Innocent

Peptobislawl

(2/7)

- Titus, Creature

Titus

(1/7)

- Vifam

-Grey-

(3/7)

- Peptobislawl, Gamma Emerald, MariaR

Zefiend

(0/7)

-

MariaR

(0/7)

-

Tywin Lannister

(0/6)

-

KainTepes

(1/7)

- Alban

Vifam

(0/7)

-

Massive

(0/7)

-

Creature

(1/8)

- KainTepes

Not Voting

Zefiend, Massive

Notes

: (expired on 2016-12-23 15:45:00) until Gamma Emerald can vote.
(expired on 2016-12-23 15:45:00) until -Grey- can vote.
(expired on 2016-12-23 16:25:00) until MariaR can vote.
(expired on 2016-12-23 16:25:00) remaining until MariaR is gone unless someone can stop this submission.

With 13 alive, it takes seven to lynch. (For most!)

unvote I am Innocent

[I Am Innocent]

alban, IAI, Titus, Grey, Tywin, me

Why am I being grouped with alban and Titus?

[I Am Innocent]

HAHAHAA THOSE ARE POINTLESS THEN

Yeah I'm not so sure. I'm starting to think it may be in town's best interest to have a self imposed deadline of more than 48 hours from the real deadline. Esp as the game goes on...

Why?

Still thinking it through, but imagine a LyLo game, 4 town and 3 scum, and the 3 scum all silence someone different (cancelling vote) close to the deadline (within 48 hours). Force a no lynch, kill at night, auto win.

[I Am Innocent]

I don't like this. I don't like this at all. Why stop that there? Could have waited at least a few hours.

Screw it.

619 MariaR

Armbar MariaR

Break that up.

I approve.

I sorta approve. I tr Maria but others need to see it.

This makes no sense.

When you're as old as I am, you find smacking people over the head when they are not open to it doesn't go well.

This makes even less sense. Please smack away so I understand.

[I Am Innocent]

VOTE: Gamma
VOTE: Pepto

Leave my mason buddy alone.

That's not how saving someone works, by the way.

I'm already voting Grey and tbh I'm kinda OK with my vote there. The finishing moves seemed like an awkward ploy to me.

Creature is probably scum too.

IaI and Titus are probably town.

Why are your reads terribad?

What a strange question, considering I had you as a town read.

I'll give you another chance to rephrase.

^This guy is town^

[I Am Innocent]

HAHAHAA THOSE ARE POINTLESS THEN

Yeah I'm not so sure. I'm starting to think it may be in town's best interest to have a self imposed deadline of more than 48 hours from the real deadline. Esp as the game goes on...

Why?

Still thinking it through, but imagine a LyLo game, 4 town and 3 scum, and the 3 scum all silence someone different (cancelling vote) close to the deadline (within 48 hours). Force a no lynch, kill at night, auto win.

Accurate, but that's true for lylo only, unless you want to establish a no wait until deadline habit

With the numbers we have now, and prior to any switches, we are okay. But once people start getting moved around, it may need to be considered.

[I Am Innocent]

Okay out for the night.

Kuroi, thanks for another interesting game!

[I Am Innocent]

You can't fight the mod's info bro

You should be careful about messing with someone whose ass cheek is as large as your entire body.

VOTE: -Grey- for being a fake wanna-be rapper white boi. I see you clearly, poser.

Apparently I'm voteless ...

@Vince McMahon, did my vote for Grey not get counted on purpose?

Vote Count 1.05

Alban

(3/7)

- -Grey-, I Am Innocent, Zefiend

Gamma Emerald

(0/7)

-

I Am Innocent

(1/7)

- Tywin Lannister

Peptobislawl

(2/7)

- Titus, Creature

Titus

(0/7)

-

-Grey-

(3/7)

- Peptobislawl, Gamma Emerald, MariaR

Zefiend

(0/7)

-

MariaR

(0/7)

-

Tywin Lannister

(1/6)

- Vifam

KainTepes

(1/7)

- Alban

Vifam

(0/7)

-

Massive

(0/7)

-

Creature

(1/8)

- KainTepes

Not Voting:

Massive

Notes

: (expired on 2016-12-23 15:45:00) until Gamma Emerald can vote.
(expired on 2016-12-23 15:45:00) until -Grey- can vote.
(expired on 2016-12-23 16:25:00) until MariaR can vote.
33836 days, 15 hours, 29 minutes before any of you may call Titus a him.

With 13 alive, it takes seven to lynch. (For most!)

I have zfiends vote being on Grey, not alban.

[I Am Innocent]

@mod, what happens if the GM is lynched? Is there a replacement made, or does that team not draft/protect at night?

[I Am Innocent]

How does one access the other thread?

Last post was 114, and this is all you have to add?

[I Am Innocent]

Where did the friggin alban wagon go?!?!?!

[I Am Innocent]

Also can someone voteblock IaI so he doesn't just free himself

Try not to be so obv scum

vote gamma
Frog splash gamma
Lasso gamma
One shot day Vig move on gamma

Sorry for the overkill, just wanted to make a point on how bad this scum butt had to go.

If I die at night my other scum reads are maria and alban

[I Am Innocent]

Gamma + Maria + Pepto

Try again dumbass, look at the VC. This is idiotic. And why are you so sure there is 3 scum?

Btw I think this is a scumslip.

I noticed this too.

[I Am Innocent]

Behind on this game and traveled to visit family this week. I'll try to catch up when I can. Looking at creatures reads I see most players where I'd expect to see them.

Why is zfiend and kain so low? Cases?

[I Am Innocent]

oh wait gamma's dying?
ehhh
I think Gamma/Iai are on dif sides and I think IaI is scum so I really wanna break this up but I'm not confident enough in the read of town gamma to want to break it
oh well! Bye gamma

>I TR Gamma
>Oh shit he's going to be gone
>I think he isn't aligned with IaI
>I think IaI is scum
>ehhh those reads aren't

super strong

...
>Sayonara townread
IaI and MariaR def teamed.

Your whole reasoning for pushing me was my push on Maria and you end up back here? With me as scum with her?

I read this as distancing now with Maria after hard town reading her earlier.

[I Am Innocent]

Caught up
Maria/IaI scum
Vifam, KT town

I also have trouble believing after 1196 posts you only have 4 reads?

[I Am Innocent]

I think I have my guess for the scumteam (if it is 3): Maria, IaI, Tywin.
J PERSONALLY want to lynch the first two and then analyze the two lynches. This requires me to live.
I think claiming now is a good idea. Besides my finishers,

I have the ability to change the roster in some way. If I believe my lynch is inevitable, I will use this power. I believe it has tbe power to cause much chaos, so I'd prefer not to use it, but I will use it if I deem it necessary

.

Underlined is not a town mindset.

[I Am Innocent]

VOTE: Gamma

I would expect town!Gamma to be willing to die to avoid having a dangerous role hurt town, not threaten to use a dangerous role if he was lynched.

Not when I believe my reads as much as I do.

Okay I've heard enough. Any last words all before I hammer?

[I Am Innocent]

I don't usually like ending the day so early, but i also don't see anything in gamma's iso worth saving. I won't force my opinions onto the whole town but remember that letting gamma tap out would end the day 8 days early.

If we do kill him and he flips town, iai and creature are gonna be in need of some close watching. If he's scum, I still would watch creature, but not so much iai.

1) agrees that gamma is scummy

2) yet has his new reads ready when gamma flipped town

Hmmm who does that usually???

[I Am Innocent]

My primary theory is it rerolls the list of players in Smackdown and RAW.

VOTE: gamma

Throws on a vote too. So far the only scum read he has produced D1

(Only other reads up to this point is t vs t with Maria and Titus, which means if pepto is town prob 1 of them is scum cough cough maria)

[I Am Innocent]

Yeah that ISO is very weak and empty of reads. Dropped a few scum tells along the way.

vote pepto

At the group: any reason why each GM shouldn't redraft the players we just lost to the other thread?

To me it seems to be the surest way to keep the Town scum ratios from possibly getting too skewed to one thread.

[I Am Innocent]

I don't usually like ending the day so early, but i also don't see anything in gamma's iso worth saving. I won't force my opinions onto the whole town but remember that letting gamma tap out would end the day 8 days early.

If we do kill him and he flips town, iai and creature are gonna be in need of some close watching. If he's scum, I still would watch creature, but not so much iai.

1) agrees that gamma is scummy

2) yet has his new reads ready when gamma flipped town

Hmmm who does that usually???

Was expecting this. My reads were stated before gamma flipped, thanks. Plus, you're forgetting that Gamma did something incredibly scummy before i voted him. Yes he was town, but I had a valid and stated reason to vote him before i did. You didn't. You attacked him on nothing but nitpicks and misrep, leading up to the convenent mistake that finally got him lynched. Thanks for the OMGYS, by the way, helps make me more confident in my vote.

The reads where you said

Gamma is scummy
BUT
IF
I'M
WRONG
It's prob IAI or creature

Well you were coincidentally wrong, and I know your coincidentally wrong about one of those follow up reads

Oh wait have I told you I don't buy coincidences in mafiascum...

So call what I did OMGUS, I call what you did a scum tell since scum do that more often than not (it's called setting up future mislynches)

[I Am Innocent]

I don't usually like ending the day so early, but i also don't see anything in gamma's iso worth saving. I won't force my opinions onto the whole town but remember that letting gamma tap out would end the day 8 days early.

If we do kill him and he flips town, iai and creature are gonna be in need of some close watching. If he's scum, I still would watch creature, but not so much iai.

1) agrees that gamma is scummy

2) yet has his new reads ready when gamma flipped town

Hmmm who does that usually???

Was expecting this. My reads were stated before gamma flipped, thanks. Plus, you're forgetting that Gamma did something incredibly scummy before i voted him. Yes he was town, but I had a valid and stated reason to vote him before i did. You didn't. You attacked him on nothing but nitpicks and misrep, leading up to the convenent mistake that finally got him lynched. Thanks for the OMGYS, by the way, helps make me more confident in my vote.

The reads where you said

Gamma is scummy
BUT
IF
I'M
WRONG
It's prob IAI or creature

Well you were coincidentally wrong, and I know your coincidentally wrong about one of those follow up reads

Oh wait have I told you I don't buy coincidences in mafiascum...

So call what I did OMGUS, I call what you did a scum tell since scum do that more often than not (it's called setting up future mislynches)

What about his "coincidentally wrong about one of those follow up reads"?

Gamma flipped town which now he is trying to use to mislynch me, which I know is town.

[I Am Innocent]

I don't usually like ending the day so early, but i also don't see anything in gamma's iso worth saving. I won't force my opinions onto the whole town but remember that letting gamma tap out would end the day 8 days early.

If we do kill him and he flips town, iai and creature are gonna be in need of some close watching. If he's scum, I still would watch creature, but not so much iai.

1) agrees that gamma is scummy

2) yet has his new reads ready when gamma flipped town

Hmmm who does that usually???

Was expecting this. My reads were stated before gamma flipped, thanks. Plus, you're forgetting that Gamma did something incredibly scummy before i voted him. Yes he was town, but I had a valid and stated reason to vote him before i did. You didn't. You attacked him on nothing but nitpicks and misrep, leading up to the convenent mistake that finally got him lynched. Thanks for the OMGYS, by the way, helps make me more confident in my vote.

OMGUS is generally a useless tell, does it actually make you more confident in your read?

I'll go ahead and answer for him:

"No, it was just another way to try to throw shade on IAI"

[I Am Innocent]

Leon's posting this page is pinging me by the way...

[I Am Innocent]

Ooh, we should take this opportunity to do a social experiment.

So, since I am the newcomer, and therefore read the thread with fresh eyes, you guys should sheep me for my lynch on Tywin. If it's MyLo, we're screwed anyways. If it's not, then there's no loss!

It's a win-win (almost)!

How is it MyLo with an odd amount of players.

unvote pepto

[I Am Innocent]

Wow Titus great job I was fairly certain you were town this game.

Overall my reads sucked, so I will take a fair share of blame for this loss.

Thanks kuroi for the invite and modding. I still think the optimal play is both GMs return the players they took the day before. Not that that was the reason for the loss. Interesting setup tho.