Mini 1860 - Game Over!

[havingfitz]

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This game is messed up. Even if we lynch scum today I'm not sure how it plays out tonight if Gamma is not the NK. If he actually is the vig then a scum lynch today would at least enable him to try another shot tonight and town would still have a chance.

I'm pretty sure a mislynch results in end of game, unless there were only 2 scum in this game to begin with which I highly doubt with as powerful town has been. Also...if we mislynch and by some miracle Gamma is not NK'd (and he is an SK)...then I do not think the game would be over. But that just makes my head hurt thinking of how that could play out. Pretty sure town assured a loss regardless of what Gamma is if we mislynch today though.

And Gamma...with as powerful as the town has already proven to be with PRs...I highly doubt you are a vig. But don't get all defensive about that because I have no interest in voting you. The only way I could envision you being voted is if there were 2 more scum flips and the game was not over yet. And it was you and 2 others still alive. Then you would of course be the lynch.

Gerry...that case you presented on me is terrible. If you look over my game...at some point I have suspected everyone in this game. Even you. So shifting my reads around because of rereads or actions by others is not scummy.

Looking at the voting today, fmpov of course, gerry was at L-1 for a decent amount of time while Cloud was posting.

IF...gerry is town....there was no reason for scum!Cloud to not hammer. Other than the fact that it would have been basically sealed his fate if there was another day. But I do not think there would be another day if we mislynch today.

So if gerry is town....I think Cloud is town.

But I do not think they are both town.

They could both be scum (my current hypothesis) or Cloud could be town while gerry is scum with LUV or TwoFace.

The only way (fmpov) that gerry and Cloud are BOTH town is if TwoFace and Luv are both scum just waiting for Gamma or Cloud to lay a vote down on gerry so TwoFace can hammer for the win.

So possible pairings IMO:

gerry and Cloud
gerry and TwoFace
gerry and LUV
LUV and TwoFace

I would be really surprised if gerry and TwoFace were scumbuddies. I would begrudgingly have to give them props. So I hope that is not the case.

That would leave:

gerry and Cloud

gerry and TwoFace

gerry and LUV
LUV and TwoFace

gerry (and LUV) still make up 2/3rds of the possible scum teams so I think odds still have him as the best lynch for today.

Gamma...if you shot at gerry as you claim you did last night...then why would there be any hesitation to vote him today?

Same suspect...except with the kill actually going through this time.

[TwoFace]

lol @ fitz trying to reason with the SK

[havingfitz]

Why is that lol? He has a vote. He's sitting on the pot. It would be nice if he got off it.

So TwoFace....what is your read on LUV?

[gerryoat]

I'm reading this but I'm confused already. How can he have dropped his scum read on cloud slot when he never had a scum read on that slot?

Yes he did. Greyice second to last post

[TwoFace]

it's lol because he has no motivation to do anything. he knows he is going to lose, his vig claim backfired. he is probably content letting the day end in a NL.

my read on LUV is he is 5th in line of people who should be lynched. since we don't even have that many lynches, he is in my probably town pile, although he isn't really doing much but nobody else is either.

[TwoFace]

I'm reading this but I'm confused already. How can he have dropped his scum read on cloud slot when he never had a scum read on that slot?

Yes he did. Greyice second to last post

you made that comment after you posted fitz quotes 797 and 1018.

post 797 fitz does not say he has a scum read on the cloud slot, that is what I was referring to.

his read on the cloud slot was

"Need to move off idk were:
Gear and JJD"

people he was ok voting was grey (not greyice), me, and dave

[TwoFace]

although I have no idea what the fuck that even means.

Fitz, what does "need to move off idk were" mean exactly?

I assume null but never seen such weird phrasing before. Like why do you need to move them off and move them off what?

[havingfitz]

Idk = I don't know.

Wasn't sure how I was reading them att and wanted to get off null....one way or the other.

[TwoFace]

I know what idk means...

[havingfitz]

So someone saying they wanted to get off of null (i.e. idk) was confusing?

[TwoFace]

yes, since you didn't use the word null. if you retype that sentence and include the word null it makes much more sense.

[CloudKicker]

hint : hes mafia @tf

[CloudKicker]

Town 36-50 :: Not Town 21-10 statistically him not being voted on mylo/lylo means hes like 30-40% more likely to be scum lel

[CloudKicker]

and my last post was just poking around, im not using this for my sr

[gerryoat]

Now can you vote fitz. Gamma, you need to vote fitz regardless of SK or vig like I said.

[TwoFace]

who are you talking to?

[eagerSnake]

VC 4.05

gerryoat (2) [L-2]: Lil Uzi Vert, havingfitz
havingfitz (2) [L-2]: CloudKicker, gerryoat

Not Voting (2): Gamma Emerald, TwoFace

Lynch Threshold

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

Current Deadline

The current deadline is 11:00AM EST Tuesday, January 17, 2016, or (expired on 2017-01-17 11:00:00)

[havingfitz]

gerry....it feels like you just drop in....put a few words together to make some sentences...and then think your work is done and people can feel safe about you.

Why should Gamma vote me over his proclaimed target from last night?

Is your case on me that my reads have changed during the game?

[TwoFace]

That is exactly is what gerry is doing. Half the time he ignores previous posts made to him and and kind of just half asses things and blames being on his mobile which i'm sorry is a shitty excuse.

If gerry is town and fitz is scum, it is partly gerry's fault why I am not wanting to lynch fitz right now. cloud's refusal to vote gerry also is a factor, but definitely more gerry's fault.

I see nothing from gerry that makes me think he is town.

[havingfitz]

I do 90% of my posting over the phone.

[gerryoat]

gerry....it feels like you just drop in....put a few words together to make some sentences...and then think your work is done and people can feel safe about you.

Why should Gamma vote me over his proclaimed target from last night?

Is your case on me that my reads have changed during the game?

Yes
I'm on vacation still. It's hard for me to be active. If you can't tell the difference from day 1 and 2 from the rest. I was not scum read those days when I was not on vacation and able to explain reads more

[gerryoat]

I think gamma tried to target me cause I blew up at him end of day xause I was frustrated

[havingfitz]

gerry....it feels like you just drop in....put a few words together to make some sentences...and then think your work is done and people can feel safe about you.

Why should Gamma vote me over his proclaimed target from last night?

Is your case on me that my reads have changed during the game?

Yes
I'm on vacation still. It's hard for me to be active. If you can't tell the difference from day 1 and 2 from the rest. I was not scum read those days when I was not on vacation and able to explain reads more

You being on vacation has nothing to do with my read on you.

Also...my reads changed several times before you mention them I believe. The only real difference prior to your vote on me is me voting you. Yes?

[TwoFace]

from what I remember i don't ever recall seeing a good explanation of reads from you this game, and certainly not a good explanation as to why you were pushing dave.

not being scum read doesn't mean you can't be scum. Scum win by not being scum read.

[gerryoat]

Gamma has played enough with me that he should see this is how I always act and should know I'm town.