Mini Normal 1861: Musical Mafia (TOWN WIN)

[Naomi-Tan]

Naomi would you vote kairal?

No, she falls outside my red pool. right now. My red pool is Flubbs, Massive and IaI in that order. IaI currently lies in my POE slot. As the only remaining person who I don't feel is playing a strong Green game.

Additionally I won't be voting anyone until I've caught up as I feel only knowing part of the game is not helpful or constructive to victory and you cannot make good judgements with only half the story. You may take my FoS on Flubbs as intention to vote once I caught up assuming nothing changes

[culted]

When did you have a scumread on I am?

And you're not caught up yet?!

[Kairal]

That's 6/9 I think? Unless I'm missing it we still need claims from flubber, IamI and BV

[Kairal]

Also I feel vaguely compelled to point out that I am in fact a guy.

[Dierfire]

BlackVoid won't necessarily claim now; the result from massive means that we wouldn't entertain lynching BlackVoid today (even if the claim is a lie massive would be the player to lynch). For this reason, BlackVoid gets to decide whether or not to claim in order to maximize our chance of withholding key information from the Mafia players.

[Naomi-Tan]

When did you have a scumread on I am?

And you're not caught up yet?!

No i'm not. I'm on page 28/45 so it looks kinda like this;

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Where the red bit if the unread part of the game.

[Dierfire]

Anyway, I'm going ahead with this. Ideally this would probably wait until the mass claim ends, but I'm impatient (and anxious to get involved).

Has this quote already been discussed? The underlining is mine.

Oh if we have a JK I think the likely hood of a Double cop extremely unlikely. as

even with encryptor, strongman and Rolecop

I think it would still kinda favour Green.

As best as I can tell on my first pass, no one mentioned this yet. It seems almost too easy, but the inclusion of a specific list of three Mafia roles it looks a lot like the rare and wonderful Mafia slip.
I'm aware that my logic isn't really holding up in this game, but I really can't see how else that list gets there.

VOTE: Naomi-Tan

[Kairal]

Just to be clear you think that was a genuine slip and we actually have one JK, and two half cops against a strongman encryptor and rolecop? That seems extremely scumsided

[Naomi-Tan]

When did you have a scumread on I am?

And you're not caught up yet?!

No i'm not. I'm on page 28/45 so it looks kinda like this;

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Where the red bit if the unread part of the game.

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part of the game thats unread.

As for when I got a Red IaI read its more of a slot filler. See from my perspective If its not IaI then it would have to be one of my Green reads. consisting of; culted, BlackVoid, Kairal, Dierfire or Aj The Epi

Aj was my final Green read. If IaI is green then I'd look to them next. but I'm not willing to hunt for my last slot. Flubs and massive I have red reads on. while everyone is is somewhere null and above. The last slot is IaI based solely on lack.

[Dierfire]

UNVOTE: Naomi-Tan

Wait

[Dierfire]

@Naomi-Tan

How did you come up with that specific list of three roles?

[Naomi-Tan]

UNVOTE: Naomi-Tan

Wait

Well, one of my recent games had a red encryptor and a strongman and rolecop is just one of those defacto roles when I think of reds. I was just pulling 3 red poweroles from the top of my head.

[Dierfire]

Yeah, scratch that vote for right now.

I really thought that CloudKicker was Town.
Also Encryptor was the role on that list that I thought least likely to show up on a "top of the head" list, but Naomi-Tan has played a surprising number of games with those recently (which makes it more plausible).

[Dierfire]

I really wanted it to be that easy, though.

[Dierfire]

@Naomi-Tan

Why don't you believe the claim from massive?

[Naomi-Tan]

Right I'm heading to sleep shortly I hope to tackle a bit more tomorrow.

If Massive is Green "then it would have to be one of my Green reads. consisting of; culted, BlackVoid, Kairal, Dierfire or Aj The Epi" As it stands I doubt that any of those players are Red given each has shown traits I assositate with Green play. Defending those you have a green read on, Examining what people are saying and forming views that your vocal about, and analysis of other peoples reads and asking questions // starting discussions. Being reasonably active enough to be involved in all the major pushes (IRL not withstanding) and having Town reads not only red reads that their willing to talk about if questioned by others.

So yeah. not sure if everyone has shown the traits off the top of my head, but I have most people in the top half who I feel are doing those things.

[Dierfire]

I thought that the role and result claimed by massive made sense with earlier play.

HellloooNewman claims in 805, and the next post from massive is a vote for HellloooNewman (838).
That and the progression of the read on MiniDeathStar corroborate the claim well enough to satisfy me.

[Naomi-Tan]

I thought that the role and result claimed by massive made sense with earlier play.

HellloooNewman claims in 805, and the next post from massive is a vote for HellloooNewman (838).
That and the progression of the read on MiniDeathStar corroborate the claim well enough to satisfy me.

I am upto 675 and cannot colaborate on activity after that point and before the page I joined my Apologies.

[Dierfire]

Oh, sorry, I had forgotten that you weren't finished.
Well, consider those points for later, then--I think that the claim is believable.

[Dierfire]

All right, so I'm done for the night as well but I'm trying to improve my involvement.

I haven't come across anything that makes me want to drastically alter my lynch pool (or at least, nothing that tells me where I'm going wrong), so I'm next proceeding to choose the best vote of those available.

NOT LYNCH: I Am Innocent, Aj The Epic, Naomi-Tan
LYNCH: Kairal, Flubbernugget, culted

My next task is to read Kairal and Flubbernugget, because both were near the bottom of my list before massive claimed and I'd really like to hit Mafia with the lynch today.

[Aj The Epic]

How does his revote make sense in this context, dier? I still don't get this part.

[Dierfire]

Which vote would that be? The vote in 838 from massive? I thought that it made sense because HellloooNewman claimed Cop (and did not claim the modifier). If massive drew Even-Night Cop, that should have been a suspicious claim!

[Aj The Epic]

There had been like four unvotes. If he was in serious disbelief, wouldn't he have to counterclaim there?

[I Am Innocent]

kai/naomi/iami

Flubber is an obvious deadline lynch on town if I've ever seen one.

Yep this is what I was waiting for.

All game my reads sucked and all game nobody came after me. Completely went back to the drawing board and here somebody finally comes. Am I finally on the right track culted?

Thanks for making this easy.

vote culted

That's 6/9 I think? Unless I'm missing it we still need claims from flubber, IamI and BV

VT

Wanted AJ to go first since he so disbelieved the even cop claim I was curious if he was a town power role, and had inside knowledge about too much town power.

Fact he claimed VT still has me very wary about that slot too.

[culted]

There had been like four unvotes. If he was in serious disbelief, wouldn't he have to counterclaim there?

Depends on if he thought he could get him lynched without it.

If newman doesn't die n1 you think he doesn't get lynched?