Open 44 - Twofold Mafia: GAME OVER! before 506

[Rishi]

It hasn't quite been three days yet without Tobiassen.

[somestrangeflea]

Still...

Tobiassen - 4 (Sikario8, Dasquian, TylerJ, Rishi)
aioqwe - 1 (Claus)
Rishi - 1 (Tobiassen)

Not Voting - pwayne66, aioqwe, shaft.ed

9 alive, 5 to lynch.

Sikario8 and Tobiassen have been prodded.

[Dasquian]

God's sake.

[shaft.ed]

Well Tobi's avoidance has me pretty convinced he's scum. Also if he is a cop he would have been pushing a guilty, and he hasn't puched anyone the entire game. Innocents won't mean anything unless we figure out which cop he was which will take the other cop hitting a mafia and us lynching said mafia. And this still won't clear the person investigated 100%.

In sum, I am OK with a hammer now. But I understand the problem. If anyone wanted to give feedback on whether or not a hammer would be OK with them I'd appreciate it. I do know I'll be kicking myself the rest of the game if Tobi were to come up cop though and we hammer prematurely.

[Dasquian]

I don't want to see a hammer yet. Or rather, I

do

but it's the wrong play. We wait for Tobi to come back and claim + info, or wait for a replacement to come in and claim + info. It's tedious but it's the right thing to do.

[shaft.ed]

I don't want to see a hammer yet. Or rather, I

do

but it's the wrong play. We wait for Tobi to come back and claim + info, or wait for a replacement to come in and claim + info. It's tedious but it's the right thing to do.

Yeah I guess you're right. It looks like I need to get into more games.

[aioqwe]

No hammer yet... If tobi's cop and gets replaced, his replacement is informed of N1 actions right?

[Claus]

Yes, but I really don't want to submit another player to the 30 page ordeal of D1 all over again.

Time to move on with the game.

Unvote. Vote Tobiassen

I'll get you tomorrow, Aioqwe

[shaft.ed]

Yes, but I really don't want to submit another player to the 30 page ordeal of D1 all over again.

Time to move on with the game.

Unvote. Vote Tobiassen

I'll get you tomorrow, Aioqwe

I can't say I'm incredibly upset with you as I don't think Tobi is going to come up cop (time will tell) but I have to say your vote is quite remarkable given that you had just made a case against someone else and stated you didn't think Tobi was scum.

[Dasquian]

Here's hoping he's not a cop.

[aioqwe]

awww... I'm going to get pwn'd tomorrow... Santa wants to give me a lump of coal...

Damn I hope we're correct... We have pretty good odds if that makes any of you feel better (:

[Rishi]

Long twilight.

[Sikario8]

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[somestrangeflea]

End of Day 2 Votecount!

Tobiassen - 5 (Sikario8, Dasquian, TylerJ, Rishi, Claus)

Rishi - 1 (Tobiassen)

Not Voting - pwayne66, aioqwe, shaft.ed

You all decide to string up Tobiassen.

He was a member of Mafia A!

It is now Night 2. Daybreak is in 72 hours. Choices sent after this time will be ignored.

[somestrangeflea]

It is now Daybreak.

Day will begin once choices have been resolved.

[somestrangeflea]

In the little town of Fleaville...

...everyone wakes up bright and early to get down to another day's work.

And by everyone, I mean 75% of you.

pwayne66,

Cop,

has been killed!
Sikario8,

Doc,

has been killed!

Welcome to Day 3.

6 alive, 4 to lynch.

As a side note, the Mafia role PMs state:

You win when at least half of the living players are Mafia X, or when nothing can prevent the same.

As of this point, this will now read:

You win when only members of Mafia X remain, or when nothing can prevent the same.

This has been made purely to straighten out a possibly unfair Endgame technicality in the initial role PM. That being said, it probably won't make that much of a difference anyway.

[shaft.ed]

Wow, that's not good. So we're at 3:2:1 now. That means we should be avoiding Tobi's partner as lynching him endgames the town.

I'm looking at aioqwe/Dasq or aioqwe/Claus for Team B pairing. I'm going to reread with those connections in mind.

Also mass claim time?

[Sikario8]

[Rishi]

Agree with the mass claim.

We should pick one person to claim. That person claims, then picks the next person to claim. Etc, etc. That way the Mafia does not know what order they are going in.

I think aioqwe could have been Tobiassen's partner. I'm thinking TylerJ for Mafia B. I'm not sure who I would put as Tyler's partner, probably either Dasquian or shaft.ed.

I feel Claus is town.

[Dasquian]

Hm.

A mass-claim is almost certainly the right thing to do now, but we need to think it through a bit before charging in with the claims. Also, everyone should realise that the one person we

cannot

afford to lynch is Tobi's partner, who I strongly suspect is Rishi.

No lynch

may

also be the right move, given the known setup and possibility of cop clears, though I haven't thought through the maths on that one either.

[pwayne66]

bah... yadayadayada...

[shaft.ed]

Hm.

A mass-claim is almost certainly the right thing to do now, but we need to think it through a bit before charging in with the claims. Also, everyone should realise that the one person we

cannot

afford to lynch is Tobi's partner, who I strongly suspect is Rishi.

No lynch

may

also be the right move, given the known setup and possibility of cop clears, though I haven't thought through the maths on that one either.

This rings all sorts of scummy with me. I don't know what slowing down the mass claim would do other than allow scum to get their wits about them. And cop clears are not going to work unless our living cop has a guilty and we remove Tobi's partner which will put us in end game.

I think No Lynch will require Mafia A to cross-kill Mafia B tonight in order for us to have any chance of winning. So this is also very bad.

I suggest we vote on who to start the claiming. With this post I'm definitely not liking Dasq.

claim:Dasq

[Rishi]

Claim: aioqwe

[Dasquian]

Huh. I only said that because I was paranoid some overenthusiastic townie would charge in with their claim out of order, assuming there to be consensus on mass-claiming.

And I'm not supporting a no lynch at this point. I'm putting it on the table for discussion (since it usually isn't), hence the italicised

may

.

[Dasquian]

Oh and, preferred claim order: Rishi, aioqwe, shaft.ed, Claus, TylerJ.