Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

Pine · Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:45 am

Andrius, convince me Persivul is Town. I don't see it. The only benefit of the doubt I was giving him was incredulity that scum would be so doggedly aggressive

PEdit: Mod provided fake claims are a thing. Granting actual powers to accompany them isn't. Besides, I'm pretty resigned to getting lynched, barring a reversal of fortune. So with my Townflip about to happen, my intentions are about to be proven pure. This abject resistance to engaging with that is incredibly frustrating.

There's only a couple of hours to go til my self-imposed deadline to use this power. I need a reasonable amount of time to actually talk with Creature or Jason.

Andrius · Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:45 am

Oh by the way.
Hey drealmerz.
Can you messenger and track in the same night?

Follow-up question is then: why would you message me over track someone last night?
Because one is far more useful than the other imo.

And no, I don't actually care if you disagree. I just want to know if you can or not.

Persivul · Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:46 am

In post 1793, Pine wrote:Speak with dead doesn't make any damn sense as a scum power.

No, but it's fine as part of a fakeclaim. There's absolutely no way you can prove you have it.

They're the informed minority and gain nothing from talking to dead Town. Cure Wounds doesn't make sense for scum either.

It does if there's a vig, and again, you can't prove you have it.

Persivul · Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:48 am

In post 1799, Andrius wrote:How the crap did kuror0 get into that list?

kuror claimed to have a not-scum (although not definitely town, but after the traitor flip and single kill a SK seems unlikely) on kuroi.

Still haven't seen where you mentioned the guarantee.

Not surprising, as you're obviously not reading the game.

Shaziro · Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:48 am

I mean, yeah, town can know cop results or track results, but that is much less useful to scum is it not? "Oh, X got a cop result that proves my scumbuddy is scum, but died before he could reveal it/crumb it. Neat. Well that's buried with him so MOVING SWIFTLY ALONG!

Andrius · Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:48 am

In post 1800, Pine wrote:Andrius, convince me Persivul is Town. I don't see it. The only benefit of the doubt I was giving him was incredulity that scum would be so doggedly aggressive

PEdit: Mod provided fake claims are a thing. Granting actual powers to accompany them isn't. Besides, I'm pretty resigned to getting lynched, barring a reversal of fortune. So with my Townflip about to happen, my intentions are about to be proven pure. This abject resistance to engaging with that is incredibly frustrating.

There's only a couple of hours to go til my self-imposed deadline to use this power. I need a reasonable amount of time to actually talk with Creature or Jason.

fff
I don't think I'll be voting you.
If you don't die today I'd rather you be protecting someone tonight over communing with a dead player for your action.

Andrius · Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:49 am

In post 1804, Shaziro wrote:I mean, yeah, town can know cop results or track results, but that is much less useful to scum is it not? "Oh, X got a cop result that proves my scumbuddy is scum, but died before he could reveal it/crumb it. Neat. Well that's buried with him so MOVING SWIFTLY ALONG!

There is value in pretending to be town.

Pine · Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:49 am

There's plenty of ways I can prove it, but not right now. Talking with dead to get their results, saving someone, rolecop.

Is it just me or Persivul is trying to discredit the entire NOTION of claiming. Most claims aren't immediately proveable.

I feel like maybe I did save Shaziro, and scum is butt hurt about it.

Andrius · Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:50 am

In post 1218, Persivul wrote:
In post 1217, Dunnstral wrote:And perhaps uncharacteristically aggressive
Yeah, the first "too pussy" struck me as uncharacteristic, and now the double down.

VOTE: Culted

^Guaranteed town.

Ok look.
Saying "guaranteed town" without extra words and "guaranteed town pls trust me role stuff" or "guaranteed town I'm a cop I investigated him N1 he's town" are three different things.

Pine · Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:51 am

In post 1805, Andrius wrote:
In post 1800, Pine wrote:Andrius, convince me Persivul is Town. I don't see it. The only benefit of the doubt I was giving him was incredulity that scum would be so doggedly aggressive

PEdit: Mod provided fake claims are a thing. Granting actual powers to accompany them isn't. Besides, I'm pretty resigned to getting lynched, barring a reversal of fortune. So with my Townflip about to happen, my intentions are about to be proven pure. This abject resistance to engaging with that is incredibly frustrating.

There's only a couple of hours to go til my self-imposed deadline to use this power. I need a reasonable amount of time to actually talk with Creature or Jason.
fff
I don't think I'll be voting you.
If you don't die today I'd rather you be protecting someone tonight over communing with a dead player for your action.

Speak with dead is a day action. Cure wounds is night or day. They don't interfere.

Andrius · Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:52 am

Its just like going "Persivul is 100% town".
Instead of: "so I reread the game last night since Jason flipped town and he was a scumread of mine but is town so I looked at persivul overnight in reevaluation and hey I think he's town now after rereading some".

pedit: Oh sweet.

Andrius · Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:52 am

Honestly, I'd probably wait to see who dies tonight (N2) because they're far more likely to be useful than Creature/Jason at this point.
IMO

drealmerz7 · Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:58 am

I fail this game, I'm really sorry team

I hate bringing personal life shit into games but you need an explanation - my life has been a complete wreck, and when it was Night1 my head was not in the game at all, AT ALL. I had forgotten I could track. I barely got the animal message off in time for the deadline and had flaked on my ability to track entirely (it doesn't stick out in the PM, it's just in a sentence about my animal companion "blah blah you and you can track each night blah blah blah")

I really hate when abilities aren't more explicit, I'm a very visual person and I'd never forgotten if it was formatted like :

"you have an animal companion who grants these abilities:

1x Track - each night select a player blahb lah blah"

it's not like that at all

Seriously.

I fail.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:59 am

don't lynch me, I'm town and I'm strong and you need me

it's the Truth

drealmerz7 · Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:01 am

a game I was in just recently finished too, my focus will be more here and I will play better

I've really let this team and game down

I'm comfortable with andrius, shaz, culted, or pine lynch today, pine is my last choice

Pine · Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:22 am

In post 1811, Andrius wrote:Honestly, I'd probably wait to see who dies tonight (N2) because they're far more likely to be useful than Creature/Jason at this point.
IMO

I'd love to. I was holding onto it for someone more useful. However, if I get lynched the ability doesn't get used. I'd rather use it on someone of limited utility than no one.

Requesting the PT at 1PM EST (40 minutes). Presently targeting Creature. Let me know if you'd prefer anyone else.

Drealz, those are all Town or Townish. Evaluate a Shaddow or Persivul lynch for me?

drealmerz7 · Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:26 am

it's crazy how many ppl I'm okay having DIE in this game

I go back and forth on persivul, very possibly scum but a little game-solving that doesn't seem manipulative-agenda pushing that I'd been seeing a lot of and I like that

I'd be ok letting him continue to live and much prefer the other 3 to die

you are like between those 3 and pers for comfort

Andrius · Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:27 am

I mean.
Given the vague claims from a number of people, I think it'd be best to hold it.
I'm against lynching you.

Andrius · Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:28 am

^ In response to Pine.

Shaziro · Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:29 am

It's almost like dreal is scum for the myriad of reasons I've pointed out.

P-edit: Yeah, I'd honestly rather you save it for somebody more useful like an investigative and we just not lynch you, given how town you are. -Shrug-

Pine · Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:32 am

I'm not sure not lynching me is an option, because I seem to be the only one interested in alternatives.

Shaziro, drealz is Town. His demonstrated power confirms him as Druid or ranger, and neither of them makes much sense as Strahd-aligned. So drealzscum=Andyscum

Andrius · Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:34 am

POWER DOES NOT CONFIRM ALIGNMENT

Pine · Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:35 am

So if we're going to do something else, we need to actually do it as a team, and hurry.

I propose Shaddow or Persivul

PEdit: It can. There's no utility to scum for a whole bunch of powers

Andrius · Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:36 am

Messenger can be Strahd-aligned to try and find the traitor?
The fact it comes from a PIGEON can be immaterial if there is a Strahd-aligned Adventurer.

I'm not saying THIS IS THE CASE but THIS IS A COUNTERPOINT

Andrius · Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:36 am

If it HAD to be between Persivul and shaddow I'd go shaddow.