Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

[culted]

Pine's new avatar makes me want to lynch him.

[culted]

Did we all overlook that the OP now has "in the dread plane"

Was that there before?

[culted]

Oh it's 'alive' and 'dead' im a numbskull.

[shaddowez]

Shaddow, have you ISO'd me?

I have not, but I was paying attention to your posts in my catch up. Is it that difficult for you to recap for me?

The Creature kill was made by a vig. You have that in mind so if Pine is not what he claims you think someone else protected the target or scum just did a no kill on purpose to frame someone or what theory you have in mind? Cause I don't see much sense going against his claim that he is a doc when you believe scum missed their NK.

I'm still confused why people are convinced it was a vig shot. It says right in Creature's flip that Strahd has to lead the kill, which leads me to believe that it was just another scum, not Strahd.

I believe the same you do but that paragraph was meant to sly and it was using his mind set or at least the parts I had at that time. So if you wanna argue over why he believes it was a vig shot and not a goon kill, then be my guest.

I'm not claiming just because those I believe to be scum are pressuring me to.

Who is pressuring you to claim? I'm genuinely intrigued. Is there some sort of forum schizophrenia or am I selectively blind or something?

I don't believe this was ever addressed, except for some name calling. I don't see anyone "pressuring" you to claim either, so I guess most of the game is selectively blind?

I did my part claim because I wanted, there was no pressure and I never complained about it. So whats your point here? I can't ask for the reasons on actions I don't understand because I did X or Y in the past in a totally unrelated way? Or what am I missing?



Now about your reasons to vote for pine I don't agree with most of them but there are a couple of things that I had forgotten so I need to re check a couple of things. I still believe his item description and his personal claim but will re check some stuff.

Alright, I misunderstood your 1475. The second part was intended for Sly, since he was the one that said something about not claiming even though he was being pressured to do so.

As for Pine, I'm not doubting his description of the item, but that's irrelevant to his actions around it.

Regarding the possibility that Creature was a vig shot: as Creature's role pm said that he could be turned if targeted by Strahd, Strahd's likely says that there is a traitor that he can turn. So, it would make sense that scum would use Strahd for the kill.

It says right in Creature's flip that Strahd has to lead the kill, which leads me to believe that it was just another scum, not Strahd.

What's stated in the PM has no weight in who killed Creature. The PM doesn't say "Your role cannot be killed by a vig". The PM says, paraphrasing, "if kill lead by Strahd, you will be converted instead of killed". Creature's dead from either, a vig shot, or not-Strahd scum kill. My belief is Creature died by vig.

Two points - First, do scum always know there's a traitor? Second, I'm not arguing that it

couldn't

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be a vig, I'm just unsure why/how there's insistence that it was.

[Shaziro]

The Dread Plane is the plane of existence in which Ravenloft's dead lie. Well, at least in 5th edition. You've got your Material Plane, that's the universe with Earth/Oerth/Faerun, your normal universe. There's the Ethereal plane, overlaps with the Material plane but is full of ethereal things. Your Nine Hells, your Abyss, your four elemental planes, things like the Semi-elemental Plane of Dust, etc. Ravenloft itself is usually put in the Plane of Shadow.

Shadd, is it really that unusual for me to expect you to do some legwork when you've been lurky as fuck?

[culted]

Because scum don't shoot lynchbait, shadow.

pedit: Shaz do dreal and shaddow work as partners?

[Shaziro]

That...is a thing I have not considered. Let me give that thought, but I do think it'll be hard to find associatives due to lurking.

[culted]

This drealmerz wagon composition is pretty garbage and there've got to be scum in here.

Yea this was what I'm getting at: but I don't want to discount a bus either.

[Dunnstral]

Did we all overlook that the OP now has "in the dread plane"

Was that there before?

What are you talking about

[Dunnstral]

Note: I didn't check the op

[Dunnstral]

This drealmerz wagon composition is pretty garbage and there've got to be scum in here.

Yea this was what I'm getting at: but I don't want to discount a bus either.

Don't discount an obvious counterwagon to pine

[culted]

This read is so good so far though.

Dreal's claim is actually kinda town maybe? I liked when he asked pine if he could read. lol

pedit: Dunn tell me why you're town.

[Shaziro]

Pay attention to my responses to dreal's bullshit claim, please. It's pretty damn important.

[culted]

dreals push on me is so cute

[Dunnstral]

pedit: Dunn tell me why you're town.

I have no redeeming qualities

[Dunnstral]

Maybe if Pine flips scum.

[culted]

Dreal, are you -just- a ranger, or a ranger X? If the latter, what is the X? Mind you, this answer tells me if you're lying or not, so I'd really like it.

I don't find this compelling.

[Shaziro]

Just keep reading.

[culted]

No, you just obviously haven't seen a town role PM. You had me going with the animal messenger, that -is- a thing rangers can do. But so can any of the psychotic druids that work for Strahd that you fight at the Wizard of Wines Winery, for instance.

This once again, as I said upon replace in, assumes that the mod gave scum fakeclaims that would ruin them instantly when forced to claim.

So our options are.
1) Clumsy's a bad mod
2) dreal read his fakeclaim wrong
3) dreal claimed his actual role as scum
4) dreal claimed his actual role as town

Didn't you also push jason on claiming something you thought didn't look right?

[Shaziro]

Let me know when you've read all of it, bring up any issues you have then. Piece by piece is just fluffing up postcounts and spamming the thread.

[culted]

Your claim does not fit the other town roles I am aware of.

And you're aware of exactly how many?

[culted]

Shaziro, don't get comfy with the notion that all Town roles have an archetype with them. Mine is simply given as 'Cleric.'

That said, there are a lot of inconsistencies with what drealmerz is saying, and the massive amount of AtE he's throwing out screams scum to me

Yuck.

[culted]

Alright I'm caught up now!

VOTE: shaddowez

[culted]

Let me know when you've read all of it, bring up any issues you have then. Piece by piece is just fluffing up postcounts and spamming the thread.

And not answering questions is annoying.

[Shaziro]

How the hell is it still a question? There are so many holes in the claim, I've pointed them all out, and you should pretty easily see his scumflail when they get pointed out. Fuck's sake he went for a damn OMGUS on me while screaming "YOU'RE SCUM BUT I WON'T SAY WHY IT SHOULD BE CLEAR". With Jason, yes, I was wrong, but with good reason. Firstly, he -did- bullshit about being "One of the classes that could use that item better than most", he was a damn Fighter. That item is for Paladins and Clerics. He just wanted a neat toy, and was willing to let benefits to us be damned. Secondly, the "Shield" he has in his role PM is in italics. It's a spell. The way he said it, it seemed like he meant a literal shield, which makes no sense to be an Eldritch Knight's ability since they are a part-time caster.