Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

[drealmerz7]

I'm NOT LOOKING AT A FUCKING THING

haven't ONCE

EXCEPT MY PM

OMFG

KILL THIS SCUMSACK PLEASE

[Shaziro]

You're still throwing shade and whining any time I call you out, rather than disproving what I'm saying. It's kinda sad, tbh.

it's because YOU'RE NOT CALLING ME OUT YOU'RE COMING UP WITH BASELESS BULLSHIT

The basis is in the lore of the game, which this game is clearly heavily based in. I have literally been nothing but right this entire time, but you are arguing that when it applies to -you- suddenly lore means nothing. That's too convenient for my tastes, and I think you're scum being caught in a poorly formed lie.

[drealmerz7]

repeat your case some more

UNVOTE: whereveritwas
VOTE: shaziro

I seriously can't read more of his posts they are so infuriating - lynch him and you won't be sorry

will check back to this game after the deadline is over

[Shaziro]

So you are moving your vote to me and then refusing to participate until there is a lynch.

[Pine]

so since at L-1 I'll reveal:

one of the overall abilities I have is called Animal Companion, it grants me a few things, including the send message ability that is already known, but also a track ability (via a different animal, I'd imagine, since the messenger was a pigeon)

I'm a fucking Ranger of the Adventurers and you really should get off my wagon if you're town

Animal companion doesn't let you send messages with small animals, that's the "Animal Messenger" spell. Rangers do get it, but you were clearly just skimming the PDF of the Player's Handbook and settled on "Animal Companion" without reading it. It's nothing to do with your Animal Companion as a Ranger. You're lazily fakeclaiming toward the one person here who knows the classes like the back of his hand, that's a bad choice.

Just to play devil's advocate here, that could be a mod mistake just as easily as anything. I find it hard to believe that with this kind of flavor-heavy game, solid fakeclaims wouldn't have been provided anyway. Ergo, a very small flavor mistake is NAI.

Drealmerz and Shaziro, back your shit off of one another. I know you see each other as kind of the incarnation of Beelzebub right now, but your argument from the outside doesn't really make sense. I get a strong Townvibe from Shaziro, and I'm coming around quickly on drealmerz, so this is likely another TvT derailment. Keep it together, don't let Dunn weasel away again.

[drealmerz7]

no, shaziro is doing everything he can do discredit everything I say and paint me as scum - EVERYTHING HE CAN

[drealmerz7]

he knows how strong I am because he knows the lore and he just is desperate to get me lynched now

[Pine]

Drealmerz.

Focus.

Ignore him if you must.

Join me on Dunn.

[drealmerz7]

nope the barbarian claim is enough to satiate me

D3 if he doesn't shape up, D2 is too early for potential lurker-scum lynch

[Pine]

Grrrrrrrrr FINE

Flipping on drealmerz and being disallowed from Dunn leaves me fresh out of scumreads strong enough to push hard on. I need to reread some people, but it's past 5AM.

Note to Mod and other players: I'm might have somewhat limited access until after the first of the year. I think the place we're going has wifi, but I may be restricted to phoneposting.

[Shaziro]

Simple. Don't flip on dreal. ATE and whining that lore isn't important despite it being 100% correct and good for us so far is dumb, and he is only doing it because it hurts him because he got his fakeclaim wrong.

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: drealmerz7 (If I wasn't on there before)
This is just unacceptable.

[kuror0]

That discussion is just silly.

@mod

requesting the poke stick on culted and shaddow if able.

I wouldn't lynch today any of shaz drealmz or dunn. I think you guys are going at each other's throat because it is the only player you see around. The only weird thing is I already have too many town reads which is not normal but still feel pretty confident that at least one of shaddow-culted is scum. (specially culted but he has been mia this whole day so nothing else I can provide to make you understand)

[Andrius]

go fucking die, shaziro

If you can't avoid taking Mafia games to a personal level like this, I would recommend refraining from them until you can. This is the kind of thing I get sick of.

[Clumsy]

Lynch Votecount 2.5

L-2

(4) drealmerz7 - Culted, KuroiXHF, Persivul, Shaziro
(3) Pine - Dunnstral, Andrius, SlySly
(1) Shaziro - drealmerz7
(1) Dunnstral - Pine

Not Voting:

kuror0, Shaddowez


With 11 alive, Majority (50%+1) is 6.


Day Two deadline is

EXTENDED

to: (expired on 2017-01-03 14:00:00)


Mod Notes:

Poke stick engaged.

Purple text is just flavor that I'm adding for interest, no game connection.

"I was the warrior, I was good and just. I thundered across the land like the wrath of a just god, but the war years and the killing years wore down my soul as the wind wears stone into sand."

-Tome of Strahd

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[shaddowez]

I've been poked! Catch up is happening now. Any compelling reasons for me to not vote Pine?

[KuroiXHF]

I've been poked! Catch up is happening now. Any compelling reasons for me to not vote Pine?

While it's most likely in your win condition, I'd prefer you to vote yourself.

[KuroiXHF]

*most likely against

[kuror0]

I've been poked! Catch up is happening now. Any compelling reasons for me to not vote Pine?

You haven't catched up but still want to vote for pine which means you are pretty sold on the reasons to vote for him, so would you mind telling us what are those reasons?

[shaddowez]

UNVOTE:

I'm not town reading dreal, but want to parse through this whole interaction again. Something's not sitting right.

Shaz

- to add on to kuror's question, can you actually provide a succinct scum read on dreal that has nothing to do with his flavor claim?

Shaziro

- Did you ever answer kuror or me here? I didn't see anything that really resembled a read outside of you arguing his flavor claim.

The Creature kill was made by a vig. You have that in mind so if Pine is not what he claims you think someone else protected the target or scum just did a no kill on purpose to frame someone or what theory you have in mind? Cause I don't see much sense going against his claim that he is a doc when you believe scum missed their NK.

I'm still confused why people are convinced it was a vig shot. It says right in Creature's flip that Strahd has to lead the kill, which leads me to believe that it was just another scum, not Strahd.

Okay, L-1, here's full claim.

I am the cleric.

I have an X-shot ability called Cure Wounds, which will let me protect someone, day or night. I am told that it is low priority, and if someone else intercedes to prevent the kill, it will not be used. I also have a 1-shot ability called Speak With Dead, which will let me open a PT with a dead player for one day phase.

...snip....

and easily removing the (likely) only dedicated healing role.

There are two things I don't like about this. The first is the "low priority" claim. That sounds like an easy way to artificially inflate the X-Shot. "Yep, I used it but somebody else must have done something, I've still got another shot".

The other thing is the claim that he's likely the only healing role, when the "low priority" claim is there too. Other than the bodyguard we already know about, what else would cause the shot to not be used? It almost seems like those two ideas contradict each other.

I'm not claiming just because those I believe to be scum are pressuring me to.

Who is pressuring you to claim? I'm genuinely intrigued. Is there some sort of forum schizophrenia or am I selectively blind or something?

I don't believe this was ever addressed, except for some name calling. I don't see anyone "pressuring" you to claim either, so I guess most of the game is selectively blind?

I've been poked! Catch up is happening now. Any compelling reasons for me to not vote Pine?

While it's most likely against your win condition, I'd prefer you to vote yourself.

That's a nice deflection. Let's say I'm not going to vote for myself - do you have a reason for me to not vote for Pine?

I've been poked! Catch up is happening now. Any compelling reasons for me to not vote Pine?

You haven't catched up but still want to vote for pine which means you are pretty sold on the reasons to vote for him, so would you mind telling us what are those reasons?

I've been willing to vote Pine for most of the game, and my last post said I was willing to vote Pine, so I'm not sure what my catch up has to do with anything. That said:

• He has a non-confirmable role/ability that he used to grab the item D1.
  
• He scum reads Dunn, outside of the miller claim, but refuses to vote him over other reads.
  
• He says a recharge item will most likely be useless to him, and then recently tells us about not 1, but 2 limited use powers he has, one of which is supposedly a protective/doctor.
  
• He pushed hard for the Jason lynch, which was almost a CC (there seem to be multiple of many role types, which is the only reason I'm not outright saying it was a CC)
  
• He makes another play at trying to get the item D2.
  
• Most of his arguments seem to be based on his roleclaim.
  
• I don't see any scum hunting. He's choosing one or two players a Day, and focusing on them for "reasons previously stated"

[Shaziro]

Shaddow, have you ISO'd me?

[kuror0]

The Creature kill was made by a vig. You have that in mind so if Pine is not what he claims you think someone else protected the target or scum just did a no kill on purpose to frame someone or what theory you have in mind? Cause I don't see much sense going against his claim that he is a doc when you believe scum missed their NK.

I'm still confused why people are convinced it was a vig shot. It says right in Creature's flip that Strahd has to lead the kill, which leads me to believe that it was just another scum, not Strahd.

I believe the same you do but that paragraph was meant to sly and it was using his mind set or at least the parts I had at that time. So if you wanna argue over why he believes it was a vig shot and not a goon kill, then be my guest.

I'm not claiming just because those I believe to be scum are pressuring me to.

Who is pressuring you to claim? I'm genuinely intrigued. Is there some sort of forum schizophrenia or am I selectively blind or something?

I don't believe this was ever addressed, except for some name calling. I don't see anyone "pressuring" you to claim either, so I guess most of the game is selectively blind?

I did my part claim because I wanted, there was no pressure and I never complained about it. So whats your point here? I can't ask for the reasons on actions I don't understand because I did X or Y in the past in a totally unrelated way? Or what am I missing?



Now about your reasons to vote for pine I don't agree with most of them but there are a couple of things that I had forgotten so I need to re check a couple of things. I still believe his item description and his personal claim but will re check some stuff.

[Persivul]

Regarding the possibility that Creature was a vig shot: as Creature's role pm said that he could be turned if targeted by Strahd, Strahd's likely says that there is a traitor that he can turn. So, it would make sense that scum would use Strahd for the kill.

[SlySly]

It says right in Creature's flip that Strahd has to lead the kill, which leads me to believe that it was just another scum, not Strahd.

What's stated in the PM has no weight in who killed Creature. The PM doesn't say "Your role cannot be killed by a vig". The PM says, paraphrasing, "if kill lead by Strahd, you will be converted instead of killed". Creature's dead from either, a vig shot, or not-Strahd scum kill. My belief is Creature died by vig.

[culted]

Clumsy has informed culted that his presence was requested by the people!

Culted will begin reading the thread now!