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[xSoniaNevermindx]

I don't really have a read for fish face here
I'ma just stick to this wagon and hopefully he'll get more content the next day
Unless he's a last minute lynch then meh oh well I like fishsticks :3

[Empking]

deadlines coming up folks, empking try and have your read through done today please!

We've got four days. That's plenty of time. (And this post was active lurking. And Active lurking in the artful way you're doing is big scumtell*)

I've read through the game;I read it out of order so might have missed a page here or there, but that makes no difference.

* The bit in brackes above isn't really direced to Josh. I'm well aware that I shan't convince him.

(Sonia's post was also active lurking, but it seems more like prod-dodging rather than the artful way Josh is doing. More importantly Having clearly was not acting like the Creep wagon was a wagon on his buddy.)

[Joshz]

VOTE: empking

(this post was active lurking in an artful way)

[Joshz]

if youve finished reading lets see your thoughts on the game besides me being a manipulative artful scum active-lurker. i must have a partner, no? whats your game plan if i were to be lynched and if i were to flip town?

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Oh no I'm 100% Lurking I don't really have much to say so I'm just watching it all go down

[Joshz]

i am what he would call active lurking too because ive already given all my thoughts and just want the thread to progress. empking's reads are basically what we are all waiting for.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

i am what he would call active lurking too because ive already given all my thoughts and just want the thread to progress. empking's reads are basically what we are all waiting for.

^

[Aj The Epic]

AJ: Who are the bigger fish? Just Gamma?

And then Sonia or Twoface. I'm going back and forth to why he decided to get cold feet on the Fitz wagon right now, but I still don't think scum would drop off such an obvious lynch.

[TwoFace]

I didn't get cold feet

[Lil Uzi Vert]

TF is town.

Can do Ari/Emp/Gamma today.

[Empking]

i am what he would call active lurking too because ive already given all my thoughts and just want the thread to progress. empking's reads are basically what we are all waiting for.

Josh, are you claiming that I have given no scum reads other than yourself?

Your posts have - for an awful long time - been active lurking. It is not a new thing caused by a lack of recent content to respond to. (I would quote all today's posting-for-camouflage but my post would be to line. The clearest sign that it is scum-motivated.)

P-edit: It wasn't an obvious lynch. They thought the claim was a good one that would help him; obviously.

Luv: What makes Two town?

[Empking]

To elaborate on that 'obviously': that's why one makes a claim (as scum). To avoid getting lynched. They have Daytalk so if scum-Two thought it would have been ineffective they could have brainstormed an alternative.

Sonia: If you're going to lurk then stop posting. Flippant comments pollute the feeling of the thread.

[Joshz]

So Sonia should stop posting whereas I am scum when we both active lurk?

What's the purpose of sonia not posting? Activity is to the towns advantage. And no, you haven't given updated reads after your preliminary read. Post a reads list please, the player list is small enough!
K

TF is town.

Can do Ari/Emp/Gamma today.

Hm

So aj is not something you're considering? This is not a loaded question, just yn.

[Empking]

Does anyone want to comment at all on Twoface's twofaceness of flip-flopping between 'I tried to avoid lynching claimed PR Day One" and "Oh it was obvious that we were going to lynch a claimed PR Day One" depending on the question you ask him about the exact same post and invite?

Lots has happened in this thread recently, that is just one example, there is absolutely no need to be twiddling one's thumbs and repeating things baselessly.

P-Edit: Sinis is town based on Creep wagon, and no spamming one character comments is not good for the town. It makes the thread more painful to read for no gain to the town.

Also, are you saying (in post 2028) that I have given no scum reads other than my one on you?

[TwoFace]

I haven't flip flopped anything. Lie more scum.

[Joshz]

Does anyone want to comment at all on Twoface's twofaceness of flip-flopping between 'I tried to avoid lynching claimed PR Day One" and "Oh it was obvious that we were going to lynch a claimed PR Day One" depending on the question you ask him about the exact same post and invite?

Lots has happened in this thread recently, that is just one example, there is absolutely no need to be twiddling one's thumbs and repeating things baselessly.

P-Edit: Sinis is town based on Creep wagon, and no spamming one character comments is not good for the town. It makes the thread more painful to read for no gain to the town.

Also, are you saying (in post 2028) that I have given no scum reads other than my one on you?

Your read post was before you read the thread (said by you). You've skimmed of her people, mostly TwoFace, but never really given a concrete read. You also started scumreading me before you read the thread.

[Empking]

I haven't flip flopped anything. Lie more scum.

Was your unvote about trying to enact your policy on not lynching claimed PRs Day One, or was it about posturing since you considered our lynching a claimed PR Day One inevitable?

Regardless of which answer you give now, you've given the opposite one previously. But, I'm not infallible, perhaps I am misunderstanding. Could that not be worth one line of comment if we really are starved for comment?

I've given updated reads an everyone but Arist and the masons in one post or another since reading through it.

P-Edit: Yo, Josh, in post 2028 were you saying I've given no scum reads on anyone but you?

[Joshz]

if youve finished reading lets see your thoughts on the game besides me being a manipulative artful scum active-lurker. i must have a partner, no? whats your game plan if i were to be lynched and if i were to flip town?

i did not say youve given no reads besides me. your reads post was pre-reading the thread. you have not given comphrehensive reads besides what seems to be fosing twoface and a couple town reads (trusting one mason on aristo being town and putting him as town when the other disagrees is also bad!). youve finished reading youve said, so whats your updated reads list?

[Empking]

if youve finished reading lets see your thoughts on the game besides me being a manipulative artful scum active-lurker. i must have a partner, no? whats your game plan if i were to be lynched and if i were to flip town?

i did not say youve given no reads besides me. your reads post was pre-reading the thread. you have not given comphrehensive reads besides what seems to be fosing twoface and a couple town reads (trusting one mason on aristo being town and putting him as town when the other disagrees is also bad!). youve finished reading youve said, so whats your updated reads list?

I'm not so much trusting a Mason's read as I am trusting Nacho's read who happens to be a Mason.

I have not posted so much that this ought to necessary, but:

Town:
Nacho, Ouv - Mason

Arist - Naco

Gamma - Got Having lynched
Sonia - Having was essentially apathetic between Dreep and Hiraki (which was stooped cause Hiraki's a great player)

Scum:
AJ, could be. Nothing screams that he can't be.

Two: His interaction with Having looks like distancing. His retaliatory and dishonest reaction to this claim also looks bad.
Josh: Active lurking in what looks like a very deliberate way. (Is doing exactly what I'd do if I was scum)

[Empking]

To be fair, if I was Josh I probably wouldn't have repeatedly talked about scum's future night action in lieu of scum hunting. A scum tell so basic, it probably has its own wiki page. Still, doesn't seem to have hurt him any.

[TwoFace]

I haven't flip flopped anything. Lie more scum.

Was your unvote about trying to enact your policy on not lynching claimed PRs Day One, or was it about posturing since you considered our lynching a claimed PR Day One inevitable?

Regardless of which answer you give now, you've given the opposite one previously. But, I'm not infallible, perhaps I am misunderstanding. Could that not be worth one line of comment if we really are starved for comment?

I've given updated reads an everyone but Arist and the masons in one post or another since reading through it.

P-Edit: Yo, Josh, in post 2028 were you saying I've given no scum reads on anyone but you?

Well let's be accurate. First it wasn't an unvote, I changed my vote. I did so because I don't lynch claimed PRs day 1. Doesn't matter if it's inevitable or not.

My answer now is no different than any of my previous answers.

Can we SERIOUSLY lynch this scum now?

He blatantly lied saying I flip flopped when I never did. There's no town motivation for this type of lying.

[TwoFace]

His retaliatory and dishonest reaction to this claim also looks bad.

Only one being dishonest here is you. I haven't lied once, because I don't lie.

[Aj The Epic]

That reason for a lynch is a load of horseshit Twoface

[TwoFace]

That reason for a lynch is a load of horseshit Twoface

Are you protecting you're scum buddy? Cause he said either scum or the dumbest mfer ive ever seen.

[TwoFace]

He is either scum*

Stupid phone