Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

[Aj The Epic]

Signal when you've decided to be caught up, and then we'll talk a bit.

[mozamis]

Mozamis' reads early in d2 were so bad I was ready to lynch him there.

Why didnt you vote for me then?
And at least i give out reads. You seem to revel in posting vacuous guff.

[mozamis]

Shit, keep forgetting, you're scum, thats part of your job description, fair enough, carry on!

[mozamis]

Are you townreading Tywin? If so, why?

The guy is playing out of his skin if he is scum.
I mean, OF COURSE HE COULD BE FAKING. But ya got play the percentages, and 99 times out of a hundred surely a player with that much rage, anguish and frustration is town.
So I'm not voting him today.
I suspect you're still recovering from your spat with him.Fair enough. Why not just put him in your neutral bag for now?

There's better candidates out there.

but I don't really want to do Moz.

he might be buddying but hurrah!

Sonia, SSBM, Elbrin seem like the best places for a scum lynch

I quite like this list as well. Sonia is slipping off my radar, as I slowly absorb my mistake about Cloud (i.e. people posting in a seemingly spontaneous manner doesnt always mean town).
Whatever. Certainly SSBM and Elbirn are lynchable.

[mozamis]

I'd like to state there's no way a vig shoots CK: we've got an SK on our hands.

Thanks for popping in! Any chance of some reads, some opinions?

[mozamis]

Fuck, I dont know about SSBM.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd like to state there's no way a vig shoots CK: we've got an SK on our hands.

Thanks for popping in! Any chance of some reads, some opinions?

Once I get caught up sure. Sonia is still very likely scum, for now.
VOTE: Sonia

[Nero Cain]

he might be buddying but hurrah!

I haven't been scum reading you this whole game so why would I change? You haven't done anything scummy unless you count voting for town (me) but town votes town all the time so using that as a scum tell is meh.

Is your scumread on me activity based?

[mozamis]

Good to have a vote from you, at least.
To clarify my "stance" (which is glorifying ambiguity, if you like) on SSBM. It goes like this:
"Yeah the guy is a bit hard to follow and doesn';t seem massively pro town..and yet I prefer him a LOT to AJ"...
so there you go.
I think, on balance, I'd rather not lynch him.
It has the whiff of another Lapsa wagon, someone being voted off for not being strong town, rather than being scummy.
Lets get this AJ wagon, guy is opportunistic, trying to fan the flames of A SSBM lynch i reckon.
Right, unless faced with a direct question, I'm out as I am posting too much. And I've had too much coffee aaaaaaaaargh

@Nero damn you and a direct q.!
It was based on meta I guess. My memory of you was of a town leader, who posted a lot. And you seemed quiet...

[mozamis]

*good to have vote aimed at Gamma

[Nero Cain]

but no one listened to me! Maybe it was a so large that my voice was drowned out but I am deff still using my voice and vote here.

[mozamis]

In fairnes I think you were scum who looked pretty effing town in the first game i pkayed with you ("Always Sunny in Philadephia maybe?) so maybe I am just wary.
In fairness, evry time you do post you are giving out reads and stuff, unlike AJ, so you're prob going up to null.
or your buddying as worked, damn you!
In fairness I need to stop saying in fairness.

[Nero Cain]

I always come off as scummy, I'm not sure why but *shrugz*

[Nero Cain]

lol, I was scum in Philly but I was in a hydra

[Aj The Epic]

Mozamis you seem to fail to understand I've been scumreading Kyouko since yesterday.

[mozamis]

Mozamis you seem to fail to understand I've been scumreading Kyouko since yesterday.

You seem to think I'm dumb anyway (*bursts into Nirvana*)...
but humour an old man, why exactly?

[mozamis]

lol, I was scum in Philly but I was in a hydra

excellent, I still have a memory!
(it's sometimes in doubt these days...)

[Gamma Emerald]

moza can you stfu you're thread spamming at this point

[Nosferatu]

No I expected Syr to shoot me.

what the fuck? Aren't YOU the vig? Why would Syr shoot the actual vig?

[Gamma Emerald]

I REALLY need to read up...

[Alisae]

No I expected Syr to shoot me.

what the fuck? Aren't YOU the vig? Why would Syr shoot the actual vig?

I am the vig.
But I thought he cud be vig to.
Idunno, maybe he no believe claim so he go pew pew and me ded?
That is if there is 2 vigs.
Maybe it's at the time I really did not understand his humor.

[Aj The Epic]

Kyouko is more concerned about drafting his fantasy scum team than he is about actually hunting. Throws out the traitor card with no real reason. Suspecting a traitor isn't even NAI, because scum can be trying to signal each other that way if one exists. But needless to say, it's also fucking pointless to suspect that in D1. His potential scum team is at this point like 7 long but he's gone through variations that suggest he suspects and has more than half the playerlist as acceptable lynches.

Lapsa Tywin and AJ scum, Alisae Traitor or on other scumteam in multiball, leaning Traitor.

That's from 1536.

If he is a traitor though would it not be interesting if he had used his 561 as another crumb? Look at the bolded. If it's 4 scum, 3+ a traitor, the scumteam might notice this reads list and see themselves as 2 easy mislynches alongside the traitor, plus the last of the scum team being hidden inside the 3 below where there is "perhaps bus on 1". This would be traitor!Lapsa + AJ +Tywin + 1 of [Alisae, Uzi, Gamma] as the scumteam.

1585, referring 'his' as lapsa.

Kyouko, thoughts on Sonia and Uzi?

They aren't bothering me aside from not voting. I haven't looked very closely at Sonia yet though so I think I'll do that now. LUV is the lurkier of the two I feel. Also forgot to post that Cloud is also currently not voting in that unofficial VC.

Suuuuure. Just recall uzi and sonia don't post much between this and him claiming they're part of a scum team.

Also throws out multiball as a possible theory.

More importantly, Kyouko explains away some bad votes with "I was sheeping", specifically why he was on my wagon.

@Mozamis.

That and the additional fact that I'm still pretty sure CK was trying to get kyouko's attention for the traitor crumb.

[Nosferatu]

Kyouko and Nos reads?

I think Alisae is sk, not liking tywin rn, and I doubt sonia killed cloudkicker. People who know each other irl are usually really good at reading each other, and I really don't think that Sonia wouldn't figure out cloud was a traitor if she was mafia.

No I expected Syr to shoot me.

what the fuck? Aren't YOU the vig? Why would Syr shoot the actual vig?

I am the vig.
But I thought he cud be vig to.
Idunno, maybe he no believe claim so he go pew pew and me ded?
That is if there is 2 vigs.
Maybe it's at the time I really did not understand his humor.

Was the question answered about where you learned mafia from

[Nosferatu]

I also kinda want to put my moon logic thinking cap on and go, yeah, serial killers stab, would she have been thinking about guns as sk? Would a newb sk think "yeah I'm gonna crumb vig instead by making gun sounds hahaha"

Or am I insane?

so, what, as newb sk she crumbs vig by saying "stabby stabby"?

[Alisae]

Idunno if it was and quite frankly I don't think my experience matters.